3 hours ago, norfolkandchance said:

He should get a job at TAT.

He should be the PM!

Oh dear. I hate to say this but it's occasions like this I miss @Kadilo. 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thanet says it's all smoke and mirrors. 

Yep. Just like the whole SarS-CoV-2/Covid-19 situation now and from the very beginning. On an aside I wonder why we are not hearing about school closures since opening. I personally know of three in one amphur mueang in one province. I suspect these aren't the only ones in the entirety of this country.

3 hours ago, kevin612 said:

This is true, why tourists visit Thailand when entertainment is closed?

Temples?

3 hours ago, JCP108 said:

He speaks the truth.

... a dangerous man.

Stop him.

57 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Yeah, the guy's right, they're so short of tourists that even the bigwig politicians are having to pretend they're loving it on the beach, lol.

 

OK let's address the elephant in the country. Many Thais have reached a level of prosperity where they may be asking themselves...Why are we still letting all these low-lives hang around our country?  Not everybody is missing the hordes of tourists like everyone on here makes it out to be.  I know a lot of people here that want their own countrymen to be able to come but do NOT want any Chinese, Indians, Arabs or Africans to show up here! Most on here are two-faced...look at the <deleted> going on in western nations against the above said people. Disclosure - I don't drink, but it hasn't kept me from partying hard. Most of you blowhards just want to return to the bar/gogo club/soapy massage/tail chasing days, but hide behind the Thais out of work and no tourists mantra that everyone likes to spout.  It's all B.S. and you know it. Man-up. Stop the Charade. Quit your pixxing and moaning. Still, I do like the fact that someone is willing to risk their neck to speak the truth - unlike some on this forum.

2 hours ago, gearbox said:

I'm currently in Phuket and there are tourists coming....just not enough. Once the figures are collected for a month or two I expect the Thailand Pass and the PCR test on arrival to go away. The risks seems to be too small to be worth handling with obstacles like these. My prediction is Jan 2022 for proper reopening.

I do so hope so.

4 minutes ago, mosan said:

OK let's address the elephant in the country. Many Thais have reached a level of prosperity where they may be asking themselves...Why are we still letting all these low-lives hang around our country?  Not everybody is missing the hordes of tourists like everyone on here makes it out to be.  I know a lot of people here that want their own countrymen to be able to come but do NOT want any Chinese, Indians, Arabs or Africans to show up here! Most on here are two-faced...look at the <deleted> going on in western nations against the above said people. Disclosure - I don't drink, but it hasn't kept me from partying hard. Most of you blowhards just want to return to the bar/gogo club/soapy massage/tail chasing days, but hide behind the Thais out of work and no tourists mantra that everyone likes to spout.  It's all B.S. and you know it. Man-up. Stop the Charade. Quit your pixxing and moaning. Still, I do like the fact that someone is willing to risk their neck to speak the truth - unlike some on this forum.

"Disclosure - I don't drink, but it hasn't kept me from partying hard."

Onanism?

3 hours ago, JCP108 said:

He speaks the truth.

Agree 100%

1 minute ago, mosan said:

Most of you blowhards just want to return to the bar/gogo club/soapy massage/tail chasing days, but hide behind the Thais out of work and no tourists mantra that everyone likes to spout

Not too sure there are many hiding behind the "Thais out of work mantra".............we need lots of tourists so the girls see it is worth their while coming back to BKK and Pattaya..........party on.

My wife hasn’t seen her Thai family in two years.

 

We haven’t set foot in a house that was completed after Australia turned into Alcatraz.

 

We both agree that we will not contemplate travelling to Thailand until they ask to see vaccination status and that it. No jumping through hoops.

 

Now imagine a Thai woman who misses her family and will not jump

all the hurdles placed of her to travel back.

 

There is no a chance a normal tourist will go through the hassles either.

 

 

I'm a property owner and even I'm not coming. Haven't seen my condo in 2 years

3 hours ago, norfolkandchance said:

He should get a job at TAT.

He'll get the sack or re-educated

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Apart from a few souls "tourists are simply not coming to Thailand" said the business leader.

 

He called for the hoops and hurdles facing potential tourists to be removed but especially the on- arrival RT-PCR test.

That’s why Aussies are off to Cambodia or Vietnam! So true

10 minutes ago, mahtin said:

"Disclosure - I don't drink, but it hasn't kept me from partying hard."

Onanism?

Anything is possible.

Can we have a boxing match between this guy and the Dr with the alphabet after his name that said drink is a covid magnet !!

Winner takes all and gets to decide the fate of bars and clubs !! ????????

Apart from the fact this has been blindingly obvious to all, just stunned someone actually had the balls to say it publically, hardly the Thai way!

 

We haven't been back in nearly 2 years, but my wife wants to go visit family

 

We're going on vacation to Hawaii in a few weeks and she was thinking of maybe a doing a trip from there. 

 

An hour or so on her laptop, and the answer was 'screw it, I can wait'

 

So if a Thai wanting to visit family can't be bothered with all the hoops, the chances of Johnny Sixpack and family thinking. 'yeah lets go to Thailand' is as ludicrous as it's tragic that the Thai Government can spout this nonsense. 

Almost all above replies are short and brutally on point.  One thing inhibiting tourists is the ridiculous insurance requirements.  Even the most well to do persons, especially if older would baulk at having to pay the rates being charged.  I understand much of this began due to unpaid hospital bills.  But any international insurance meeting the required levels that are also applicable in Thailand should be acceptable for short or even long stays.  Perhaps charging every man, woman and child coming from an international destination whether by land, sea, or air, 1000-2000 baht on arrival and 5000-10000 baht for in country extensions of stay to be deposited in a fund for unpaid medical services at any hospital would be more acceptable and equitable for everyone.  

12 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Not too sure there are many hiding behind the "Thais out of work mantra".............we need lots of tourists so the girls see it is worth their while coming back to BKK and Pattaya..........party on.

For the record, many who have partied with and married bar girls over the years have never set foot in Pattaya, or Phuket for that matter.  We've all done time in BKK, but could just have easily meet said girls online!

But do they really need to be told all this.? Anyone with half a brain and half an idea what's going on understands clearly. 

Answered my owh question I suppose. 

Aren't you forgetting business travellers? My son used to visit to hold seminars in BKK. 

Expats spend the most on condos and rent, etc., and yet they are treated as second class and charged 10 times as much as locals

 

1 minute ago, Speedhump said:

Aren't you forgetting business travellers? My son used to visit to hold seminars in BKK. 

"The only arrivals are not true tourists at all. Just business people, property owners or those with families".

 

From the article?

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He blames all the obstacles put in the way of potential tourists, says Thailand shot itself in the foot when it had the opportunity to do better and now is even lagging behind neighbor Cambodia.

He hits the nail on the head. And with all the incertainty in Thailand on how they acted the last 18 months not much people will book a plane ticket being at risk loosing their money if Thailand closes borders again for countries with rising covid cases.

Also for most countries Thailand is a orange covid country zone. So their local insurances will not cover anything. They have to buy the extra Covid insurance in Thailand which makes it again less attractive.

Like many others: i will wait for a long time.

Is this honest, truthful and frustrated man going to have to endure Prayuth "re-education" now? He is not showing fealty to the so called leader!

 

Why would tourists take the kind of risks these pathetic cowards are subjecting them to, when they have to risk only negative results of 20-40 people sitting around them on a plane?

 

And then, only to have to endure a Quaker style vacation, with no nightlife or beer or wine at dinner? 

 

Tourism in Thailand is essentially finished as an industry. They murdered the Golden Goose. 

 

Stupidity still rules the day. Can a dinosaur be educated, or be capable of progress? Obviously not. 

We all knew tourists were staying away.  That was predicted by every major tourist agency in the world.  Predictions of tourism recovery is anywhere from 2 to 5 years.  Has nothing to do with alcohol bans, PCR tests, or anything else.  Testing on arrival is just plain smart, as is limiting the sale of alcohol (sorry, the rich have shown why that is needed here).  As for Cambodia, well, I'd say its likely returning expats just like everywhere else... so no surprises there.  

Thing is, if we've been waiting 2 years and not come back, pretty easy to wait a couple of months more until they wake up and drop all the <deleted> for entry 

2 hours ago, yogi yogi said:

i can go to cambodia easily from thailand now?  via plane.  no cambodian restrictions?  what about coming back to thailand after going to cambodia.?  i have to do one night quarantine again?  what about if i come back via land?  same one night quarantine required? so many questions, no answers?

yea to enter Cambodia u only need show u have had 2 shots, a negative pcr test within 72 hours of arrival.  On arrival get a rapid test. wait for results. if negative ur good to go
no deposits, no insurance needed.
ONLY need visa in advance ( but can get that online)

 

Land borders NOT OPEN

53 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Early grey and cucumber sandwiches might be all that is on offer eventually.

Just as long as it's not Liptons..........and they don't cut the crusts off .............................................!

2 hours ago, yogi yogi said:

i can go to cambodia easily from thailand now?  via plane.  no cambodian restrictions?  what about coming back to thailand after going to cambodia.?  i have to do one night quarantine again?  what about if i come back via land?  same one night quarantine required? so many questions, no answers?

anf a new thai pass