PM confirms no Thailand’s border closure yet, dashes hope for early revival of nightlife

[Boomer6969]

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Knocked back by hookers.......555

Happened, in Huan Kin, to my schizophrenic friend.

[Skeptic7]

11 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Yes.Their daughters are out selling themselves on the streets in huge numbers just so their families can survive. Im sure that justifies any delay in getting back to normal....for some!!!!!

Guess I need to get out at night more! 

 

Been going on forever...and not only Thailand. ????

[sungod]

14 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Nothing lost, actually. 

Apart from thousands of jobs and livelihoods. Very selfish attitude you have.

[Skeptic7]

No Thailand’s border closure yet

 

The borders may be slightly more open, but hardly easy and certainly not at all welcoming, with nothing to offer, once jumping thru flaming hoops getting here. This Covidiocy is neverending. This place will ???? ???? and overreact AGAIN, close the borders AGAIN and unnecessarily keep it closed/lock it down internally AGAIN. ????

[kingstonkid]

Ok I am confused

 

Hotels and restaurants/look like bars can stay open and serve booze until 11.

 

On NYE they will stop serving booze at 11 does that mean they have to close at 11 also

 

What abouot all these hotels that have big galas

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha today (Thursday) made clear that his government has no plan to close Thailand’s borders again,

Only to certain African countries... but not for the chosen European ones.

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Gen Prayut said that he sympathises with everyone in the nightlife sector for the hardships they are enduring, but the concerns of other people and public safety has to be taken into account as well.

Like music festivals, Firework displays and Loy Krathong...

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Omicron is going to be another excuse/reason that will allow him to delay past Jan 16.

 

Pattaya, in particular, is doomed.

And extend the emergency decree.

[10baht]

10 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

You pay for it one way or the other.

And pay and pay and pay. And pay and pay.

[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Yes.Their daughters are out selling themselves on the streets in huge numbers just so their families can survive. Im sure that justifies any delay in getting back to normal....for some!!!!!

That's geography... it's moved from the bars, to the streets or online.

The girls will survive, but some business owners will struggle, they have to re-model or go bankrupt.

[10baht]

9 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

However indirect jobs?

Just think about the vast amount of money made by money exchangers and banks. Rather not being made now.

[stigar]

He is afraid toursts will delete their holidays in thailand.THats why he said his not afraid the new omicronvirus that really spreding around the world.Im not usrprised at they say its no omicron there and tell people thailand is safe.Its to late i guess.What will they do when they detect the first case(not say it)because tourism is important.Who can trust their story...well not me or my gf in korat.

[sandyf]

15 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

Well, apart from the livelihoods of a rather large number of people.

"Large" is subjective and exaggerated by the bar flies on this forum, after all it is all they can see.

The bigger picture is out of sight.

 

[newnative]

14 hours ago, JackGats said:

Which is better, Pattaya 80% dead like it is right now, or Pattaya 200% full like pre-covid in high season? I remember in high season going down for lunch at Central food court at half past eleven in order to be able to get a seat. I nearly had a fight with Indian guys once as they were blocking the last available seats for one of theirs. As for dinner, it was difficult to be welcome in popular eateries later than 5pm. Also, remember the nighttime noise until the small hours + the air pollution.

 

I recall getting turned down 3 times in a row at Patpong's King Castle (1 and 2) by girls who didn't want my money. It was Christmas time and they probably had even bigger (Asian) payers lined-up.

 

All was not well pre-covid either.

    Regarding your quite accurate Central Festival pre-covid comments, tell them to poster Leaver, who recently scoffed at a comment I made on a different thread that Festival was busy pre-covid. Replying, he made the ridiculous statement that, and I quote, '...there was very little pedestrian traffic in Central, pre-covid'.   According to him, you should have easily gotten a table at any time of the day because he remembers people only at the 'banks', 'telcoms', and using the mall as a 'shortcut to Beach Road'.

[PEE TEE]

If nightlife is still banned then why are they still havening the full moon party's. is it because they are done in the open . check Samui news and info they have the video's on Facebook    

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, overherebc said:

For the ones who can't find any sort of relationship in their own country.

And those who choose not to......  for some strange reason having a preference for a young slim Thai lady who will 'take care'....... doubt I could find that back where I came from... a pint swilling, big lass smelling of curry and chips with attitude maybe. 

[shackleton]

Pattaya is paying for its past sins

I think the days of the  old farangs coming on holiday chasing the young Thai girls especially in  the bar  scene is on its way out 

Pattaya now  trying to change its image  to attract family's ⛱ 

Beaches  Temples restaurants

Thailand  especially Pattaya has a lot more to offer than bars 

 

[seedy]

15 hours ago, JackGats said:

 I remember in high season going down for lunch at Central food court at half past eleven in order to be able to get a seat.

You eat in food courts ?

Now that is sad

[Clarkey611]

7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

chips with attitude

Now that sounds interesting!

[Jumbo1968]

48 minutes ago, 10baht said:

Just think about the vast amount of money made by money exchangers and banks. Rather not being made now.

Kasikorn Bank has closed its large branch on Soi Bukhao as have several money exchange places.

[MrJ2U]

1 hour ago, 10baht said:

And pay and pay and pay. And pay and pay.

Beautiful girls aren't cheap.

 

Even the fat ones.

[Farmerslife]

14 hours ago, overherebc said:

So you don't/didn't come to Thailand for the beaches, scenery, food and Bhuddist culture.

Try thinking that perhaps the idea of pattaya as a destination for sexpats is something that the majority of Thais don't like or want. Maybe you believe that pattaya needs/wants to be known as a big brothel. 

To be honest I don't know how it will all end ref' pattaya night life, my feeling is the idea that it will change.

If that happens what will be your destination of choice? It will, I think be somewhere that you can find the hedonistic lifestyle you seem to want.

As so often appears to be the case, this seems to have become an either or debate. I haven't been to Pattaya for decades but isn't there room for both kinds of tourist, those who come to experience Thailand's cultural differences from their homeland and those who will happily prop up the bar scene? Neither one needs to be exclusive. There are plenty of cities around the world that manage to accomodate both, Amsterdam, Hamburg for example.
 Furthermore we seem to be assuming that every visitor will fall into one camp or the other but I know from my own experiences many years ago that I thoroughly enjoyed both.

[wombat]

13 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Knocked back by hookers.......555

Blows him out of the water as a "handsome man" 

Makes the vitriol easier to understand....pmsl

[Scouse123]

14 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Yes.Their daughters are out selling themselves on the streets in huge numbers just so their families can survive. Im sure that justifies any delay in getting back to normal....for some!!!!!

Excuse me,

 

MANY of these daughters selling themselves are there by choice, not because their family are starving. They are there because they are bored in Isaarn and the lifestyle of Pattaya with its all night bars, drugs, hedonistic lifestyle of foreigners and restaurants are what attracts them.

 

They ditch the kids they have already had with local boys on their parents, and head off with dreams of pick ups, motorbikes and traveling to distant shores.

 

Whenever they do send money home that is left over from their gambling or misdeeds, it is swallowed up by feckless parents for white whisky, gambling in the villages, and various other mischief and non essentials,

 

Nobody, it seems to me, and I am around the villages daily, is suffering from malnutrition! This isn't poverty like can be seen in the Philippines, Cambodia, or Africa, in MANY cases, it's mismanagement of funds.

[Scouse123]

28 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Beautiful girls aren't cheap.

 

Even the fat ones.

No, they have figures to watch!

 

 

Somebody has to keep Mcdonalds going.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Scouse123

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Nobody, it seems to me, and I am around the villages daily, is suffering from malnutrition! This isn't poverty like can be seen in the Philippines, Cambodia, or Africa, in MANY cases, it's mismanagement of funds.

And maybe an ignorance of contraception.....

[Scouse123]

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

And maybe an ignorance of contraception.....

Plus the above!

[Skeptic7]

18 minutes ago, Farmerslife said:

As so often appears to be the case, this seems to have become an either or debate. I haven't been to Pattaya for decades but isn't there room for both kinds of tourist, those who come to experience Thailand's cultural differences from their homeland and those who will happily prop up the bar scene? Neither one needs to be exclusive. There are plenty of cities around the world that manage to accomodate both, Amsterdam, Hamburg for example.
 Furthermore we seem to be assuming that every visitor will fall into one camp or the other but I know from my own experiences many years ago that I thoroughly enjoyed both.

Spot on but there is plenty of that diversity of destination here already. Also "entertainment areas" and other Red Light Districts are easily avoided. I worked alot in Amsterdam and most tourists, including old married women...first place they wanted to go was The Red Light District!

 

Thailand is a country of overly sensitive, hi-so pretenders, 1st world wannabes and hypocrites. 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Skeptic7

[Scouse123]

51 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Pattaya is paying for its past sins

I think the days of the  old farangs coming on holiday chasing the young Thai girls especially in  the bar  scene is on its way out 

Pattaya now  trying to change its image  to attract family's ⛱ 

Beaches  Temples restaurants

Thailand  especially Pattaya has a lot more to offer than bars 

 

The girls and boys have smartened up and are online these days.

 

The white socks and sandals brigade aren't computer literate. The younger Westerners aren't interested in paying.

 

Me? Sooner have a steak dinner and a bottle of wine with my other half.

[kiwikeith]

One of two things will happen, 

1/ Omicron will turn out to be a savior, that only causes headaches, and saw throat and tiredness for a few days and everyone will develop herd immunity as it looks likely to take over Delta and be more contagious , but makes you only a little sick. Then Prayut will be hailed a hero.

 

2/ It turns out to make people very sick and causes havoc.

 

The answers are not available at this time the medical Jury is working that out now and we wont know for about another 2 weeks.

 

I'm hoping for no 1.