Mavideol Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Rimmer said: Crimea bridge partly reopens after huge explosion - Russia By Hugo Bachega in Kyiv and Patrick Jackson in London BBC News Light traffic has resumed on Russia's only bridge to Crimea, hours after a huge blast brought down sections of the roadway. The blast on Europe's longest bridge - a symbol of Russia's annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine in 2014 - killed three people, investigators say. The victims were in a nearby car when a lorry blew up, Russian officials claim. See more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63183404 question is, seeing what happen and imagining what could happen again soon or very soon, how safe do the ORCS feel about using it 555
Rimmer Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, placeholder said: Well, it's really 2 bridges. At least 2 separate roads. The one that got hit is the one that has a road and train tracks. The trains are a very important means of transporting materiel destined for Kherson. It looks like the truck exploded on one carriageway at the precise moment a tanker train was on the rail line above it causing the huge fire on the rail line EDIT OR as is now being suggested the explosion came from below and was detonated by line of site when a tanker train was at that point "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
Bkk Brian Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 The civilian killing goes on. Official: Strikes on Ukrainian city of Zaporizhzhia kill 17 KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A Russian attack on Zaporizhzhia overnight struck apartment buildings and killed at least 17 people, a top official in the Ukrainian city said Sunday. City council Secretary Anatoliy Kurtev said the city was struck by rockets overnight, and that at least five private houses were destroyed and around 40 were damaged. The Ukrainian military also confirmed the attack, saying that there were dozens of casualties. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-putin-9f6099f7ab937d4e6563aa0aaa4a3184 Video of the nightmare in the tweet below 2
metisdead Posted October 9, 2022 Posted October 9, 2022 An off topic rambling post and a reply has been removed. 1
Popular Post BarraMarra Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 Putin's televised announcement on Sunday Evening moans it was an act of Terrorism Err what do you call firing missiles into Residential non Military Targets Vlad?. Reports are coming in this morning that missiles have hit Kiev. If so where were they fired from? I suspect inside Belarus allowing them to use their border to launch strikes. 2 2
Mavideol Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, BarraMarra said: Putin's televised announcement on Sunday Evening moans it was an act of Terrorism Err what do you call firing missiles into Residential non Military Targets Vlad?. Reports are coming in this morning that missiles have hit Kiev. If so where were they fired from? I suspect inside Belarus allowing them to use their border to launch strikes. how can it be an act of terrorism when the bridge it's built illegally on another country's land, the act of originally building it on an other country's illegally annexed territory was an act of terrorism, defending one's own land has never been an act of terrorism
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 The terrorists attacking Kyiv, indiscriminate missile strikes, plenty of vids on twitter, childrens playground also hit Ukraine war: BBC journalist ducks as explosions hit central Kyiv The BBC's correspondent in Kyiv, Hugo Bachega, was delivering a news report when several explosions happened in the centre of Ukraine's capital city. The BBC has spoken to Hugo and confirmed that he and the camera crew are safe. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63197951 3
Seppius Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The terrorists attacking Kyiv, indiscriminate missile strikes, plenty of vids on twitter, childrens playground also hit Ukraine war: BBC journalist ducks as explosions hit central Kyiv The BBC's correspondent in Kyiv, Hugo Bachega, was delivering a news report when several explosions happened in the centre of Ukraine's capital city. The BBC has spoken to Hugo and confirmed that he and the camera crew are safe. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63197951 You would have thought they would have had a Patriot type of missile defense ready by now 1
Seppius Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Some pictures from the attack in this report https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11298407/Missile-strikes-hit-Kyiv-Putin-pledged-revenge-Crimea-bridge-blast.html
BarraMarra Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Sepious there has not been any attacks on kiev for Months so likely the crews that man the defense systems around the city were not on duty as they don't man them 24/7 only when a strike is a possibility. Plus they were fired close so there would be little time to intercept them. Just another indiscriminate attack on Civilians from Putin's thugs.
rudi49jr Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BarraMarra said: Putin's televised announcement on Sunday Evening moans it was an act of Terrorism Err what do you call firing missiles into Residential non Military Targets Vlad?. Reports are coming in this morning that missiles have hit Kiev. If so where were they fired from? I suspect inside Belarus allowing them to use their border to launch strikes. Psychopaths, narcissists and madmen only see the evil in others, never in themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault, they are never to blame for anything. 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Seppius said: You would have thought they would have had a Patriot type of missile defense ready by now Reports from BBC said the latest count from the Ukraine Ministry of defense was 75 missiles but they shot down 41 of them. However that still left over 30 landing and causing carnage and destruction. No tactical reason for this, just pure terror that coincides also with the new commander for Russian forces in Ukraine General Sergey Surovikin taking charge after the Crimea Bridge attack. 4
rudi49jr Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: the new commander for Russian forces in Ukraine General Sergey Surovikin taking charge after the Crimea Bridge attack. I read that this guy is an extremely brutal and also very corrupt general, even by Russian standards, which says a lot. So Ukraine knows what it’s up against. 1
Bkk Brian Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Lukashenko says Belarus and Russia to deploy joint military group Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has said Belarus and Russia will deploy a joint military task force in response to what he called an aggravation of tension on the country’s western borders, according to the state-run Belta news agency. Lukashenko said on Monday the two countries had started pulling forces together two days ago, apparently after the explosion on a bridge linking Russia to the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia annexed in 2014. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/10/lukashenko-says-belarus-and-russia-to-deploy-joint-military-group This was also mentioned on BBC live
jvs Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Lukashenko says Belarus and Russia to deploy joint military group Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has said Belarus and Russia will deploy a joint military task force in response to what he called an aggravation of tension on the country’s western borders, according to the state-run Belta news agency. Lukashenko said on Monday the two countries had started pulling forces together two days ago, apparently after the explosion on a bridge linking Russia to the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia annexed in 2014. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/10/lukashenko-says-belarus-and-russia-to-deploy-joint-military-group This was also mentioned on BBC live This sounds like bad news ,along with the bombing that is killing civilians ,again. I just hope that a few countries will get the same idea and pull together to fight against Russia. 2
BarraMarra Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 Cowards 1 missile landed in a kid's playground and cars in the Ctr of Kyiv knowing full well it was rush hour. Ukraine now have the right to target Russia and Belarus yet more War Crimes on Putin's Rap sheet and his Thug leaders.
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 I would love a bombing raid on the Red square. But that would be seen by Russia as an escalation. A bad but lovely move. 1 2 1
tgw Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BarraMarra said: Ukraine now have the right to target Russia err... they have had that right since 2014.
Popular Post tgw Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, stevenl said: I would love a bombing raid on the Red square. But that would be seen by Russia as an escalation. A bad but lovely move. I really don't understand that talk of "escalation". Nothing Ukraine can do with its own weapons (not western ones) can be seen as escalation. Ukraine is defending in Ruzzia's full-out war. Short of using WMD, everything Ukraine does to strike Ruzzian military targets is fair game. 1 2
stevenl Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, tgw said: I really don't understand that talk of "escalation". Nothing Ukraine can do with its own weapons (not western ones) can be seen as escalation. Ukraine is defending in Ruzzia's full-out war. Short of using WMD, everything Ukraine does to strike Ruzzian military targets is fair game. That's from your perspective, you have to look at it from Putin's perspective. 1
tgw Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, stevenl said: That's from your perspective, you have to look at it from Putin's perspective. thankfully I don't have to look at things from the perspective of a madman .
thaibeachlovers Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 11 hours ago, jvs said: This sounds like bad news ,along with the bombing that is killing civilians ,again. I just hope that a few countries will get the same idea and pull together to fight against Russia. No need to wait for other people to do anything. Far as I know anyone can join Ukraine armed forces. Certainly many have done so already. Don't just talk about others doing something- just do it yourself.
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 10, 2022 Popular Post Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: No need to wait for other people to do anything. Far as I know anyone can join Ukraine armed forces. Certainly many have done so already. Don't just talk about others doing something- just do it yourself. So individuals should buy missile systems, tanks, military drones, schedule spy satellites over Ukrainian to provide military intelligence, engage in diplomacy and enact economic sanctions? Of course not, the response needs to come from nation states. Individuals wishing nations and international nation state organizations would do more is entirely understandable. 3 1 2
rabas Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 17 hours ago, Seppius said: You would have thought they would have had a Patriot type of missile defense ready by now Agreed, but they have real patriot systems. Turn up the volume to hear the missiles flying overhead. Would love to know what "suka bartay" means. 1
stevenl Posted October 11, 2022 Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, tgw said: thankfully I don't have to look at things from the perspective of a madman . If you want to understand whether he sees it as an escalation, yes, you have to. 1
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