Anutin: There's no going back now - "Vax passport" needed not Thailand Pass to enter country

[rumak]

Maybe this will help :  

 

https://www.tatnews.org/2022/04/thailand-lifts-rt-pcr-testing-requirement-for-international-arrivals-from-1-may-2022/

[charmonman]

3 minutes ago, rumak said:

I wonder what percentage of sheep will ever admit that they followed the shepherd blindly ...... but are now wondering if they were led astray

I find most of the people calling other people “sheep” have virtually no ability to distinguish facts from complete BS.

[charmonman]

6 hours ago, islandor said:

You can bet on it, and they will be correct in doing so imo. Seems to be way too many sheep on this platform. Todays "facts" may well be tomorrows nightmare.  

Did you ever consider that you might be a sheep yourself? Calling those who disagree with you sheep is pretty lazy.

[Eleftheros]

6 hours ago, Henryford said:

So if you don't have a jab every 6 months you are no longer vaccinated?

In some places it is 6 months, some 9 months, some vary depending on whether you have had 2 or 3 shots.

 

But they can't keep this up for ever, since data from several countries show that 4th shots are essentially useless. So, within a year or so, everybody will be regarded as being unvaccinated, whether you have had 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 vaccinations.

 

It will be interesting to see how governments manage to keep the pandemic going in that situation.

[rumak]

3 minutes ago, charmonman said:

Did you ever consider that you might be a sheep yourself? Calling those who disagree with you sheep is pretty lazy.

i agree with you .... and was using it in a satirical manner.     now,  please ask the PEOPLE on this forum to stop using the disrespectful term  anti vaxxer    to try to put down those who have reason not to agree with them

[aussiexpat]

This guy should stay away from interviews.

 

Good news just released about scrapping the one day quarantine and arrival PCR and he has to go ruin it by spreading false rumours about needing a booster shot soon to get in

[garyk]

Just to many nice places to go that don't have rules, and i can stay without hassles. 

Few months ago I was amazed at the amount of Europeans in SA.

They all told me the same thing. 

Apartment across from were Germans, and they had been there for 6 months. They loved it.

Also I can breath the air in most countries! Most people don't realize how harmful the pollution is for your health there. Extremly toxic to you body. 

 

 

[Onerak]

9 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Serious question.....does this even exist?

 

Answering my own question....it is the yellow card/booklet that was all the rage last year....apparently.

US will never recognize any vaccination passport. And if US says no, it is a no no for most of the World. 

[thairookie]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

In future the criteria for entering Thailand will be the internationally recognised method of Vaccine Passports.

In the future, Mr Anutin will no longer be the Health Minister.

[it is what it is]

8 hours ago, asiacurious said:

Three shots?  From what I've been reading from various virologists and immunologists, it should be more like like 3 shots within the previous 9-12 months.

 

The efficacy of vaccines against current the current covid variants appears to wane over time, and there is a very good likelihood that today's vaccines will be substantially less effective against future variants.

 

Just like regular passports which have a period of validity and expiration date, there should probably be expiration dates on how long any given shot should be considered valid.

the uk has started second boosters, so 'fully vaccinated' for a uk citizen would mean four shots

[Dumbfounded]

14 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

The antiwhatevers reduce over time so, potentially, after a certain amount of time has elapsed since your last dose of vaccine, you might not have enough protection for people to consider you to be adequately protected.

13 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Are you saying that vaccines do not provide any protection against covid?

He's saying they weaken over time, just like you did

 

[ukrules]

48 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

the uk has started second boosters, so 'fully vaccinated' for a uk citizen would mean four shots

Only for the over 75s

[MadMac]

I think I had it, nephew staying here had it, he had a sneeze and made a test. Positive. So I skipped the test and did not even have a sneeze. They cost about a beer, did not want to waste money ????

[ThaiBob]

26 minutes ago, MadMac said:

As I said, if you can read thank your teacher. Comprehension of what you read is then another level. Not everybody is able to combine information input and understanding. Good luck to you.

Those who understand the intent and purpose of a SEC filing knows it's a government requirement for risk avoidance to potential investors and has nothing to do with the efficacy of the vaccine (FDA emergency approved) in your deliberate attempt of obfuscation. 

 

This story has circulating on the right wing conspiracy social media and beer and nuts crowd. 

[Denim]

11 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

He's using a euphemism.

 

 

Yes.

 

A euphemism for subject to change at a moments notice.

[Billy Bloggs]

I have a yellow needle book which I was issued when I joined the Australian Air Force 43 years ago, I just added my vax certs into it along with my booster.

[BangkokReady]

36 minutes ago, Dumbfounded said:

now doesn't mean never,

No, but what he is saying is "I don't think you would have any protection now, let alone after two, three or four doses".

 

36 minutes ago, Dumbfounded said:

you even allude to the fact that the "whatevers" reduce over time

I do.  He doesn't.  ????‍♂️

[wealthychef]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

the internationally recognised method of Vaccine Passports.

Huh?  when did this happen?  

[TropicalGuy]

7 hours ago, islandor said:

The list of "unforeseen consequences" seems to just keep on growing!

 

First time in history that healthy people have been quarantined... Was it only 2 years ago that this concept would have been laughable? It used to be that it was the sick who were quarantined. 

 

China seems to be in the process of showing us all just how these draconian, totalitarian, futile exercises will destroy the worlds supply chains and what's left of the economies. 

 

Good thing we will soon own nothing and be happy... NOT! First step, get us all on a worldwide pass system, digitalized if possible, so Anutin and the rest of the worlds WHO/WEF crowd can bring us all the prosperity we deserve. Sound like a plan? 

UK once they saw China then Italy panic & lockdown and get away with it, UK threw away the developed Pandemic Manual ( quarantine sick & high risk only) and promptly followed suit for emotional political reasons. 

S. Korea for one, did not,  as they were prepared & followed their own pandemic manual to perfection. 

[asiacurious]

1 hour ago, Dumbfounded said:

Yep, lets not care that vaxed or unvaxed can catch/spread covid.

We should care.  At least I know I do.  And you're right - both can catch and spread.  Thing is, the vaccinated person who catches it (whether or not they have symptoms) will have a lot LESS of the virus in their bodies (and therefore will spread a lot less) than someone who is unvaccinated.

 

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/vaccinated-workers-shed-less-covid-virus

 

Note that things changed a bit with the Delta variant, which isn't a surprise because the vaccines all had lower efficacy, though that was likely due to a mix of changes in the variant and passage of time from when the original vaccinations were administered.

 

Yawn.  I'm boring myself.  All of this is old news.

 

1 hour ago, Dumbfounded said:

So in your perfect world everyone gets the vax and problem solved. Shows just how delusional some of you pro vaxers are. But please keep getting the jabs - big pharma is counting on you guinea pigs for their long term studies on side effects and death

In a perfect world, everyone in the world gets vaccinated.  That's really the way to slow down and eventually stop new mutations/variants from evolving and spreading. 

[Onerak]

Us will never approve a vaccine that cannot control death and so much so that the CDC has to put the country in level 3 risk. 

[mania]

14 hours ago, webfact said:

The minister said that now it has been decided to scrap Test and Go there is no going back.

 

In future the criteria for entering Thailand will be the internationally recognised method of Vaccine Passports.

 

He noted that he expected that to mean three shots against Covid-19 including the booster.

Someone just needs to put a muzzle on this cement worker>Health Minister<sic>

 

Every time the CCSA or Prayut push for reopening he needs to once again make himself relevant by opening his mouth & removing all doubt that he is a maybe he is not a nimrod yet he is & once again will throw Thailand's possibility of tourist bookings out the window

 

Imagine  the news the other day that test on arrival was scraped & all that is needed was insurance & proof of vax

 

Folks sigh & consider booking a trip to Thailand

 

Now this guy comes forward with maybe this & maybe that & tourist sigh again & say nah, not yet

Thailand still does not know <deleted> it wants

 

Because every time one part of this sorry excuse for a govt states a new rule another part comes forward with yet another version. Do they not realize how ignorant they all look? Right hand, left hand all part of the same moronic excuse for a govt

[Sambotte]

12 hours ago, Anton9 said:

Currently, International Health Regulations specify that a dose of yellow fever vaccine is valid for 10 years. Therefore, at present, travelers to countries with a yellow fever vaccination entry requirement must have received a dose of yellow fever vaccine within the past 10 years.

 

 

Totally the same vaccine

Nope, it has been reassessed. Changed i mean. Since years now. They admitted that it was valid for lifetime.

[cdemundo]

15 hours ago, ESLTeacher1989 said:

I really don't want to get a booster, especially after all the data coming out on Myocarditis..................Omnicorn is so mild anyway compared to other variants, why are the Thai Authorities are so worried?

As you say Omicron is mild and if you are not in an at risk group why get a booster?

 I think under 50 yo the boosters are not recommended.

 

The myocarditis may not be a big problem except in certain age groups.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html

 

"Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis and Pericarditis after Receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Among Adolescents and Young Adults

 

Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults...

In most cases, patients who presented for medical care have responded well to medications and rest and had prompt improvement of symptoms. Reported cases have occurred predominantly in male adolescents and young adults 16 years of age and older."

 

 

[jethro69]

Simply genius.

The last I read on this topic was that the Thailand pass with the new rules should be available online from tomorrow 28th.

Now, we'll wait a bit more for further clarification. ????????

What a circus.

 

[Bangkocker]

17 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Serious question.....does this even exist?

 

Answering my own question....it is the yellow card/booklet that was all the rage last year....apparently.

That's interesting. A health minister that knows nothing about health. Hang on - TIT. What he need is a booster up the kyber with my boot.

 

[Brigante7]

14 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Are you saying that vaccines do not provide any protection against covid?

Correct, which is why the "vaccinated" seem to suffer worse when they catch it.

 

 

 

Brigante7.

[Straight8]

17 hours ago, ESLTeacher1989 said:

I really don't want to get a booster, especially after all the data coming out on Myocarditis ..................Omnicorn is so mild anyway compared to other variants, why are the Thai Authorities are so worried?

TiT, where common sense has no meaning.

[rabang]

11 hours ago, ukrules said:

The western governments are going to be in for a shock later this year when nobody bothers with going for another vaccine after having conracted covid multiple times.

 

People are done with them.

 

They travel to places which don't require any kind of documentation or testing as it's too much hassle, even if they're fully vaccinated. There's plenty of such places.

 

The free market will force this issue as millions of people go the route of least resistance.

 

If that means hardly anyone comes to Thailand then so be it.

Exactly. I got the first two myself but will most likely never ever get a booster. If it means no access to Thailand then so be it. I think at least next year the vax requirements will be dropped though. I remember someone here last year asked when unvaccinated could travel to Thailand and I guessed 2023. That gave some people a good laugh but already there are countries that are not interesed in the vaccination status of incoming passengers.

[rabang]

10 hours ago, Heng said:

Currently the norm in many places.   No covid regs here in Denmark but you're unvaccinated if your most recent dose was more than 150 days ago.... So you'd need another dose if you happen to want to use you Covid pass for anything. 

Is the pass still needed for something?