Frustrated with Pattaya beach deckchair businesses!

[2009]

To all the scammer apologists here: in what world is charging 100 for 30 minutes sest rental normal (especially when you are buying their product).

 

That would be like charging 30 dollars for 30 minutes on a deckchair on America for example (if you factor in wages).

[Orinoco]

2 hours ago, Iamfalang said:

How much to breathe the great Pattaya cesspool of death?  

Oh dear, think that's called a 4 large beer Chang moment. 

[murraynz]

4 hours ago, simon43 said:

Hmm, is that why I see them arriving at 5.30am in new cars...

 

In any case, If the vendor tells me the 'real' price before I sit down, and tells me that I have to pay extra if I want to sit longer than 10 minutes, then I'm all fine with that.  I can then decide whether or not to accept their offer.  But I have zero time for 'sneakiness', regardless of how little the sum involved is ????

 

My daily expenditure is 100 baht for the coconut drink....  That is 100 baht more than the vendors get if they <deleted> me off by lying to me.

You are being 'sneaky', if you buy coconut... Then decide to stay sitting in the chair,after you have finished... 

[Orinoco]

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

A friend has the concession for deck chairs on Bangsaen beach.  He has to pay 5 million THB to the local government each year

Oh dear a 7 large beer Chang moment.

 

[The Hammer2021]

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Would point out we foreigners ain't responsible for their poverty.

They could have stayed in their home villages working normal jobs like the rest of the country.

Non of your business  to tell Thais where they  should work. Another example of entitled arrogance from foreigners living here who seem to lack basic empathy.

[simon43]

Just to point out that apart from my obvious irritation with the 1st vendor, I told the second vendor to "go away" without anger and I told the 3rd vendor that I accept their offer to drink up and <deleted> off....  There was no confrontation.

 

In all these cases, they would have known that I wasn't a tourist - we spoke Thai throughout the conversations.

 

Anyway, tomorrow I'll sit in the bar on the other side of the road ????

[kinyara]

4 hours ago, simon43 said:

Well, I'm only in Pattaya for maybe 1 more week.  All my Lazada orders have finally arrived, so I can move on to Isaan ????

What did you buy, 100 coconuts and a deckchair ?

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Non of your business  to tell Thais where they  should work. Another example of entitled arrogance from foreigners living here who seem to lack basic empathy.

Do you think that foreigners should be seen and not heard and that foreigners shouldn't give an opinion or  comment on social issues in Thailand .

   Should only Thais be allowed to have an opinion and non Thais should keep quiet ?

[FriendlyFarang]

100 baht for a coconut in Pattaya? A free chair should definitely come with it. A few weeks ago at Koh PhiPhi they charged 30-60 baht for a coconut, depending on size, I would expect Pattaya to be cheaper.

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 hours ago, simon43 said:

You're probably right.  Why should I, as their only customer, expect to be able to relax in a deckchair, buy their drink and not move their little plastic table?  I guess it's my white, colonial ideas.  Shame on me!

Wasnt the reason given that moving the table would cause a blockage and people wouldn't be able to get past ?

[simon43]

2 minutes ago, kinyara said:

What did you buy, 100 coconuts and a deckchair ?

Nope, something much more useful! A Liebeg condenser...

 

[The Hammer2021]

22 minutes ago, 2009 said:

To all the scammer apologists here: in what world is charging 100 for 30 minutes sest rental normal (especially when you are buying their product).

 

That would be like charging 30 dollars for 30 minutes on a deckchair on America for example (if you factor in wages).

It's a  100 baht all day. If somebody can't afford to pay a poor beach vendor  100 baht they can't afford  to be in Thailand- such  angry, sour people should find a place where the people are easier  to bully

[simon43]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Wasnt the reason given that moving the table would cause a blockage and people wouldn't be able to get past ?

There were no other customers.  It didn't block their access anyway.  The vendor was just being a prat ????

[simon43]

2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

It's a  100 baht all day. If somebody can't afford to pay a poor beach vendor  100 baht they can't afford  to be in Thailand- such  angry, sour people should find a place where the people are easier  to bully

As I have mentioned, I have no problems to pay 100 baht for a coconut and permission to sit in their deckchair for more than 10 minutes, especially when I am the only customer.  (I can understand if people were queuing up for deckchairs, but I guess that has never and will never happen!)

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, simon43 said:

There were no other customers.  It didn't block their access anyway.  The vendor was just being a prat ????

But they were expecting some other Customers to come later 

[simon43]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

But they were expecting some other Customers to come later 

Lol, good on them!  I wasn't intending to spend the whole day there!  For that vendor, I slept for 45 minutes after drinking my coconut and then left to visit Central Festival when it opened.

 

There were no other customers in all that time ????

[StayinThailand2much]

40 minutes ago, simon43 said:

In all these cases, they would have known that I wasn't a tourist - we spoke Thai throughout the conversations (...)

As a foreigner you'll always be a 'tourist' in Thailand, no matter what. Yes, there are friendly Thais around, but many will just try to squeeze out every last baht you own. The flip-side of this is, that, personally, I am very uncomfortable visiting any 'new' places in Thailand. I will only visit places that I went to in the early days of travelling to/in Thailand, which is absolutely contrary to my travel habits in the rest of the world...

[Andre0720]

5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

You looked for a confrontation and you got  one - well done. These vendors  are poverty stricken and their families can barely  afford  to send their kids to school. They have experienced real hardship over the last two years  and they are  desperate.

I am astonished, embarrassed and a little bit sickened  by the entitled  arrogance of some foreigners here. But not the OP of course whose daily expenditure of 35 baht is a valuable  contribution  to the micro economy  of the beach vendors.

Being poverty stricken should not be a license to behaviors akin to theft....

[Jai Dee]

On off-topic troll post has been removed.

[simon43]

I do love these kinds of threads ????  It brings out the best and worst in different posters!!  Do you think I should ask tomorrow how much to drink their coconut juice if I stand next to the deckchair, but don't sit in it??

[Kinnock]

3 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

He has to clear 14,000 baht each day just to break even?

Yes ..... the food vendors pay him a commission if they sell food to people using his area, but he made a significant loss last year.

[In Full Agreement]

 

 

Is there anything stopping you from bringing your own deck chair and  sitting undisturbed where ever you like?   I'm assuming you either drove a bike or car to the beach so you could drop off  the chair there when finished.

 

How long did you actually spend using the vendor's deckchair.   Was it 10 minutes or 45?

 

 

[Tropposurfer]

I love n laugh at this deckchair thing. So Eurocentric hahaha ???????? Crammed together like blinkin' sardines. I think these bizarre beach-clubs with their God awful doof-doof music going all day ... and gym muscled patrons parading ... hilarious????????????

I hail for the east coast of Australia and we just make a spot on the sand with our beach-towels and the simplicity and jaw dropping beauty of our magnificent beaches lol n ????

[bkk6060]

5 hours ago, simon43 said:

Hmm, is that why I see them arriving at 5.30am in new cars...

Yes, but if you look in the car you will see their Falang BF driving the car he paid for.

In any event, I think you are being a little picky on this.  100 b is the normal charge.  If you stay for free, I would say it is reasonable to think the time is limited.  Just my opinion, as others have said this seems to be desperate times for these vendors.

[Don Dunkelblum]

3 hours ago, simon43 said:

Nope - all the other, previous vendors last month said 100 baht for a coconut and chair for as long as you want to sit there ????

 

Update:  In any case, it's their loss.  Tomorrow I'll go and sit in the bar opposite and wave at them while I enjoy my 'fixed-price' drink!

Cheap charley

[allanos]

It would appear to me that the deckchair/ coconut vendor

was simply setting out the ground rules of his particular,

individual operation, and in the manner peculiar to his

culture.

 

This affronted the OP's Eurocentric and delicate sensibilities, and who will never darken the vendor's doorstep again! Lol

[aussiexpat]

I demand a free deck chair guy should meet up with I demand a free bag guy. Match made in heaven ????

[Tony125]

6 hours ago, simon43 said:

Hmm, is that why I see them arriving at 5.30am in new cars...

 

In any case, If the vendor tells me the 'real' price before I sit down, and tells me that I have to pay extra if I want to sit longer than 10 minutes, then I'm all fine with that.  I can then decide whether or not to accept their offer.  But I have zero time for 'sneakiness', regardless of how little the sum involved is ????

 

My daily expenditure is 100 baht for the coconut drink....  That is 100 baht more than the vendors get if they <deleted> me off by lying to me.

I thought you moved to Laos to get away from all the problems in Thailand. What brings you back?

[simon43]

11 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

I thought you moved to Laos to get away from all the problems in Thailand. What brings you back?

Huh? The last time that I had 'ex-wife' problems in Thailand was around 2008....  I moved from Myanmar to Laos because I didn't want to renew my 5-year Elite Visa (it had almost expired when I left Myanmar).

 

Allanos "

It would appear to me that the deckchair/ coconut vendor

was simply setting out the ground rules of his particular,

individual operation, and in the manner peculiar to his

culture."

 

Or in other words "I tell you one thing and then tell you something different later after you have partaken under the first terms that I stated".   Ah yes, is that Thai culture? ????

[blackshadow]

6 hours ago, simon43 said:

Well, I'm only in Pattaya for maybe 1 more week.  All my Lazada orders have finally arrived, so I can move on to Isaan ????

did you order a deckchair off lazada????????????????