1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But to be fair, I don't think there is a big difference between women who marry rich guys and prostitutes who take money from the same guys. All of them want money and a good life - and why not.

 

Sure. It's all fun until someone jumps off a balcony.    

27 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

Sure. It's all fun until someone jumps off a balcony.    

That, or other suicides, happens with guys, girls, and lots of other people all over the world

The most popular lie many are trained to tell, is "I have only been working for one week".

 

Also, the student lie works well. "I attend university. I need money for my studies".

 

How about truths? The best one I ever heard was, "me love you tonight, me forget you tomorrow". 

 

What a classic. 

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That, or other suicides, happens with guys, girls, and lots of other people all over the world

 

True, but over represented here.    

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

How about truths?

 

I think the most truthful thing a bargirl has said to me was, "I no speak English."  And she didn't.  ???? 

I personally know women who earn a million baht a year. I have known women who have had six boyfriends, who sent them a total of 100,000 baht per month.

 

I also know a gal who worked in Singapore at a brothel. She was stunning. She earned 3 million baht cash, all clear, in 16 months. Took it all home. Build a gorgeous house, started a business, and is totally independent financially. To this day. That was several years ago. All good. Do not know how she relates to men at this point. And I doubt she will ever be capable of a healthy relationship, after 3,000 men or more, in my estimation. But, she did establish herself. I give her credit for that.

 

With the exception of the men who are clever enough to hire a private detective to look into her background, and pay some real money to do it right, there is no way to know. They all have stories. And most of the stories are ones that they know we want to hear. So many times I have heard friends say, "Oh no, she is new. She has only been working at the bar two weeks. I was her first customer. She worked in a factory before that. I could tell how innocent she was'. Yeah right!

 

 

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

How about truths? The best one I ever heard was, "me love you tonight, me forget you tomorrow". 

Is that the girl or the punter?

 

For every lie that a bargirl tells a customer there is a lie in the other direction.

 

5 hours ago, proton said:

sorry mister, have period

Usually that doesn't stop them ????

The biggest lie has got to be time keeping

Most of the lies mentioned here are also used by the women in the general population

Beware ☕

 

9 hours ago, Hummin said:

I had many thai girls on my side, but I always paid the bill! The travels, food, gasolines if she had a car, hotels, but not necessary salery. A caddy who regularly came and visited me, never took or wanted money, but I guess her sponsors already paid her well

That dreaded 19th hole. ????

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

to look into her background, and pay some real money to do it right, there is no way to know.

Do we, most of us, really want to know? And is it fair?

Would I want that a possible gf knows everything about my life? I didn't do any crimes but in the hindsight there are also some moments where I should have behaved better.

I think we should mostly look at a person how he/she is now and don't think about too much with how many people this person had sex and how and where and all that.

 

And it seems some girls are pretty good in separating their job from their personality. Maybe it is similar to actors. Only because a guy plays always the bad guy doesn't mean that is how he is. And if a girl plays a role for an hour that doesn't have to damage her if she separates her role from the rest of her life. At least I guess it works similar to that.

 

I like super obese broke farang with lots of tattoos and an inability to take a shower or speak one correct word of Thai while having no friends, zero education, and clearly no self-esteem who likes to drink all day and complain all night while wondering how life has been so cruel and nobody taught them how to write shorter sentences. 

8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Do we, most of us, really want to know? And is it fair?

Would I want that a possible gf knows everything about my life? I didn't do any crimes but in the hindsight there are also some moments where I should have behaved better.

I think we should mostly look at a person how he/she is now and don't think about too much with how many people this person had sex and how and where and all that.

 

And it seems some girls are pretty good in separating their job from their personality. Maybe it is similar to actors. Only because a guy plays always the bad guy doesn't mean that is how he is. And if a girl plays a role for an hour that doesn't have to damage her if she separates her role from the rest of her life. At least I guess it works similar to that.

 

You are likely right. But, I think for most, there is a point at which emotional intimacy, trust and faith in men might be compromised. Where is that point? Depends on the woman, for sure. But, for some it might be 450 customers, and for some it might be 3,700. I would prefer to know. 

“I no go with customers - I just serve drinks” 

 

to tell the truth, I have never been with a bar girl, I always find the girls that

 

“no - I not work in bar, I work in restaurant” 

19 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

nobody taught them how to write shorter sentences. 

Ironic. 

"I just got off the bus".

11 hours ago, save the frogs said:

arent many of them divorced and raising children on their own?

ie single motherhood leads them to this work in some cases, no?

 

Most are no longer living with their baby daddy. But, as soon as they are in Pattaya and have money, they pair off with some Thai guy.

 

Sometimes they go for young guys, often half their age. 

 

 

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That is actually true for many bargirls.

I no like young man as customer because they want to f$# for hours and think they do me a favor and they don't have much money.

I prefer old guys. Maybe they sleep and I don't have to work at all. Or they are tired after 5 minutes. Easy money.

 

Thats a twisted truth, I did spend alot of time with the girls as friend living in the same building, and those girls who had sponsors did not go out with older Men. However another story, but as quick they have their financial needs fixed, they enjoy life, and I believe to work as a sex worker, and also be good at it, you must like sex and have an appetite for it. 
 

100% of the girls I met who had a bf, left alone in Patong, Pattaya, Ao Nang, cheated on their bf’s or sponsors. I have maybe met 25 in my life in that situation, so,,,, Butvall of them did not solely work bar, some was selling insurance, appartments, working restaurant, 

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That is actually true for many bargirls.

I no like young man as customer because they want to f$# for hours and think they do me a favor and they don't have much money.

I prefer old guys. Maybe they sleep and I don't have to work at all. Or they are tired after 5 minutes. Easy money.

 

This is what the bargirls say, but what they do in real life is to swarm any young guy who cmes into their bar. 

24 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

You are likely right. But, I think for most, there is a point at which emotional intimacy, trust and faith in men might be compromised. Where is that point? Depends on the woman, for sure. But, for some it might be 450 customers, and for some it might be 3,700. I would prefer to know. 

Maybe there is a connection with the numbers, but I am not so sure about that. I go regularly to a few bars. I met some of the girls in those bars when they were 16 and just started work and now they are over 40. Some of them seem to be pretty normal. But I never had such a girl as a girlfriend, so I don't know how normal they are in that department.

Other girls start and a few months later they are another person, often more or less crazy. I don't know if they ever return to "normal" even if they stop working in that business for years. I have my doubts.

How does a girl change in one or the other direction? I don't know, it doesn't seem to be obvious.

6 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

True, but over represented here.    

not really.

13 hours ago, save the frogs said:

13 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

If a Pattaya bargirl is not sick, not asexual, or a lesbian, there is a 90% chance she has a boyfriend.

arent many of them divorced and raising children on their own?

ie single motherhood leads them to this work in some cases, no?

Divorced from the farang husband who lied on the first barfine when he told them he would love them long time?

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That is actually true for many bargirls.

I no like young man as customer because they want to f$# for hours and think they do me a favor and they don't have much money.

I prefer old guys. Maybe they sleep and I don't have to work at all. Or they are tired after 5 minutes. Easy money.

 

Yes, and the bargirls got really upset when a certain liitle blue pill and its derivatives came available, making the sleepy, old, easy money duffer a raging, red-faced, all-night blue-baller.

6 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Divorced from the farang husband who lied on the first barfine when he told them he would love them long time?

i thought it was the bar girls who use that line. 

 

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Other girls start and a few months later they are another person, often more or less crazy. I don't know if they ever return to "normal" even if they stop working in that business for years. I have my doubts.

that's an interesting observation.

too bad we don't have psychologists on this forum to explore that further.

so is sex just a "physical" act? or what does it do to you if you have multitudes of sex partners?

 

26 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Divorced from the farang husband who lied on the first barfine when he told them he would love them long time?

Or said he was a successful businessman ????‍????? Not only bar girls lie, customers lai as much if not more! 
 

And lies is a cultural thing foreigner’s in Thailand have to live with. What to expect when the prime minister lie on Tv to them, just to comfort his people? It takes awhile, but if you are really interested in living in Thailand, then you should start learning how this culture phenomenon is, why it is and how not to become insulted every time you discover a lie. 
 

To me it seems many thais live and act like a lagon, a tv serie, a soap opera. Their emotional reactions is  ery much like what we see on tv. So take your time and watch those soap operas ????

 

We had finish tv theatre in Norway when I was a kid every thuesday, alot to learn about finish society, but not so complicated as Thai ????

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Most are no longer living with their baby daddy. But, as soon as they are in Pattaya and have money, they pair off with some Thai guy.

 

Sometimes they go for young guys, often half their age. 

 

 

If my favorite girl wants to be with a 9 year old boy, then she is not the right one for me. 

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

This is what the bargirls say, but what they do in real life is to swarm any young guy who cmes into their bar. 

No

28 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

so is sex just a "physical" act? or what does it do to you if you have multitudes of sex partners?

IMHO that depends entirely on you - or her.

I had (in my mind) great sex with some girls and even if they told me their name, I forgot it within days. 

I had boring sex with some girls, and I forgot them the moment I walked out of the door.

And then it happened with a few girls that they were on my mind and in my heart for some time - even without any sex.

It depends mostly on us what we feel and think.