Trump surrenders for historic fourth arrest

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Ha, good point. However, 2 wrongs don't make a right. 

I believe there was more evidence against her, yet she wasn't indicted, I wonder why?

 

Because you believe wrong would be my guess.

[johnnybangkok]

When I see the Trump apologists on here it reminds me of a quote I saw recently:-
'A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact'. Anonymous poster on FB.

 

Time and time again, Trump apologists are presented with facts but in reply it's all 'weaponization of the justice system' and 'due to their personal political view rather than whether he is guilty or not' without providing a single fact to back up the assertions. 

 

It really is a boring debate when one side deals in facts and all the other side deals in is Fox talking points, whataboutisms, deflection and emotion. 

 

If you think Trump is being wronged then how about coming up with some facts so we can debate something other than your 'feelings'.

[johnnybangkok]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Ha, good point. However, 2 wrongs don't make a right. 

I believe there was more evidence against her, yet she wasn't indicted, I wonder why?

 

Talking of whataboutisms

[HappyExpat57]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Reminds me of Thaksin when the Junta went after him politically.

 

The only difference being, Trump is staying to defend himself instead of Thaksin who fled the country.

 

Lots of parallels between Thailand under the Junta and the US under Biden. Sad times.

I've seen some ridiculous posts but this has got to be the worst ever. NO comparison. Pleeeeeez . . .

[Sandboxer]

91 total federal & felony charges covering 4 future trials.

 

Wonder what the Vegas betting odds are of actual prison time for the teflon orangutan....

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s what the trials are about, and Trump is going to trial, multiple times.

 

You remember his cry ‘Lock her up’.

 

I do too, but I like trials before juries.

 

This one is going to be most enjoyable.

I am not saying that he shouldn't be charged in the 4 criminal trials or that I think he will get off in any of them, just that there is a bit too much slam -dunkism on these topics for my taste.

[sirineou]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

an indictment by a grand jury on 13 criminal counts stemming from his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in the state.

Evidence was presented to a randomly selected Grand Jury , which in Georgia being a red state were predominantly republicans. The heard the evidence presented ,and recommended and indictment.

All else are nonsensical rationalizations  by those who were taken in by this sociopathic snake oil salesmen  in a pathetic attempt to hide their stupidity,

What the dont understand is that everything they say in support if trump further exabits their fundamental inability to deal with facts. 

[jerrymahoney]

21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Hundreds of pages of indictments are a pretty decent affirmation.

 

There are no real denials, just mumblings about weaponization.

With all the criminal  indictments, in the USoA at least one is presumed innocent until proven by a jury otherwise.

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

When I see the Trump apologists on here it reminds me of a quote I saw recently:-
'A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact'. Anonymous poster on FB.

 

Time and time again, Trump apologists are presented with facts but in reply it's all 'weaponization of the justice system' and 'due to their personal political view rather than whether he is guilty or not' without providing a single fact to back up the assertions. 

 

It really is a boring debate when one side deals in facts and all the other side deals in is Fox talking points, whataboutisms, deflection and emotion. 

 

If you think Trump is being wronged then how about coming up with some facts so we can debate something other than your 'feelings'.

????

Unbelievable.

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9 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Evidence was presented to a randomly selected Grand Jury , which in Georgia being a red state were predominantly republicans. The heard the evidence presented ,and recommended and indictment.

All else are nonsensical rationalizations  by those who were taken in by this sociopathic snake oil salesmen  in a pathetic attempt to hide their stupidity,

What the dont understand is that everything they say in support if trump further exabits their fundamental inability to deal with facts. 

Well that depends with the grand jury was drawn from. If it was drawn from Atlanta, which is a democratic stronghold, most likely that wouldn't be the case

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Pure tyranny. I wonder whether anyone cheering the weaponization of the justice sytem is basing their sheer loathing of the man - and justification for this unprecedented coordinated attack on an ex Pres - on facts, rather than a well crafted narrative that paints him as an immoral and corrupt psychopath? Somehow I doubt it. 

Yeah, nah. I just don't like people who commit crimes against democracy and love Putin.

[ozimoron]

22 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

When I see the Trump apologists on here it reminds me of a quote I saw recently:-
'A fact is information minus emotion. An opinion is information plus experience. Ignorance is an opinion lacking information. And stupidity is an opinion that ignores a fact'. Anonymous poster on FB.

 

Time and time again, Trump apologists are presented with facts but in reply it's all 'weaponization of the justice system' and 'due to their personal political view rather than whether he is guilty or not' without providing a single fact to back up the assertions. 

 

It really is a boring debate when one side deals in facts and all the other side deals in is Fox talking points, whataboutisms, deflection and emotion. 

 

If you think Trump is being wronged then how about coming up with some facts so we can debate something other than your 'feelings'.

Several prosecutors have come up with herds of facts. What are you talking about? TDS isn't a lefty thing.

[johnnybangkok]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Several prosecutors have come up with herds of facts. What are you talking about? TDS isn't a lefty thing.

I think you’ve got what I’m trying to say completely wrong. I’m saying prosecutors and those who oppose Trump DO have facts, but Trump apologists don’t. 

[SunnyinBangrak]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Yeah, nah. I just don't like people who commit crimes against democracy and love Putin.

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent after 6 years of other credibility destroying BS hoaxes IS a crime against democracy.

 

Let the people decide at the ballot box. Bit late for that now after this election interference. Democracy doesn't mean the left running roughshod over the laws to finally nail their nemesis(on accused offenses our own team has also committed).

[ozimoron]

Just now, johnnybangkok said:

I think you’ve got what I’m trying to say completely wrong. I’m saying prosecutors and those who oppose Trump DO have facts, but Trump apologists don’t. 

That's right. I misunderstood you.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent after 6 years of other credibility destroying BS hoaxes IS a crime against democracy.

 

Let the people decide at the ballot box. Bit late for that now after this election interference. Democracy doesn't mean the left running roughshod over the laws to finally nail their nemesis(on accused offenses our own team has also committed).

Hoax? Delusional! He can run, what are you on about? The court cases aren't about stopping him from running. The RNC will do that, wait and see. Who ya gonna blame then?

[bendejo]

So he's gangsta now?  Is he going to start wearing his pants backwards?

 

[Sing_Sling]

54 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I believe there was more evidence against her, yet she wasn't indicted, I wonder why?

 

Right - more conspiracy theories.  'More evidence'?  ????   According to Trump and his lawyers the paperwork alone on his trial will take two ears to sort out.  Surely not even you can just believe that Hillary's 'evidence' was greater in volume and occasion . . . or did they hide more evidence in the paedophile pizzeria?

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent after 6 years of other credibility destroying BS hoaxes IS a crime against democracy.

 

Let the people decide at the ballot box. Bit late for that now after this election interference. Democracy doesn't mean the left running roughshod over the laws to finally nail their nemesis(on accused offenses our own team has also committed).

There is no educating people who live in an echo chamber.

[SunnyinBangrak]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There is no educating people who live in an echo chamber.

People who have been on the wrong side of every major issue have no ability to educate those who have been factually correct.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

People who have been on the wrong side of every major issue have no ability to educate those who have been factually correct.

Please. Trump got trashed at the last election. Culture wars against schools, insisting that there are only 2 sexes while quoting God and accusing prosecutors of reverse racism are on the wrong side, stop projecting.

[Chomper Higgot]

30 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

I am not saying that he shouldn't be charged in the 4 criminal trials or that I think he will get off in any of them, just that there is a bit too much slam -dunkism on these topics for my taste.

That cuts both ways.

 

There’s also a great deal of ‘election interference conspiracy’ and ‘whataboutary’.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Hoax? Delusional! He can run, what are you on about? The court cases aren't about stopping him from running. The RNC will do that, wait and see. Who ya gonna blame then?

And swathes of Republicans are going to be giving sworn testimony against Trump at his trials.

[jerrymahoney]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And swathes of Republicans are going to be giving sworn testimony against Trump at his trials.

There are 4 criminal indictments. The rest is just noise.

 

Well this should have been to your other post but so what.

 

This guy -- obviously for other reasons -- was underestimated in 2016 and I don't want to see that happen again.

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent after 6 years of other credibility destroying BS hoaxes IS a crime against democracy.

 

Let the people decide at the ballot box. Bit late for that now after this election interference. Democracy doesn't mean the left running roughshod over the laws to finally nail their nemesis(on accused offenses our own team has also committed).

Attempting to over throw an election is ‘a crime against democracy’.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Attempting to over throw an election is ‘a crime against democracy’.

Nah, it's patriotic.

[candide]

10 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

People who have been on the wrong side of every major issue have no ability to educate those who have been factually correct.

MAGA folks talking about facts, That's rich! Next they'll talk about truth!

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, jerrymahoney said:

There are 4 criminal indictments. The rest is just noise.

4 sets amounting to 91 criminal indictments.

 

Snd indications that superseding indictments might follow.

[Sing_Sling]

Just now, jerrymahoney said:

There are 4 criminal indictments. The rest is just noise.

????????????????  Ah, only four . . . . . . .. . . . . .. . . . so far.  How many more do you want before you think it's a problem?

[watthong]

Just wanted to show off my new merch autumn line.... (tshirt, toilet paper, kleenex - with tag line "Don't cry for me, Georgia!" - all coming soon.)