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This topic understandably can be rather emotional for many, but we're asking you nicely to constrain yourselves. Nobody's likely to change anyone's mind, and nothing said here is going to matter in the end, so just calm yourselves and have a reasonable discussion.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Yes, Hamas is barbarically violating international law.

That doesn't mean that Israel hasn't made violating international law its constant and enduring practice as well.

 

When will Hamas be held accountable for their violations  of international law ?

   They cannot really complain if Israel responds to war crimes committed by the Palestinians , if no ones going to hold them to accountable for their actions  .

  Palestinians  murdered Israeli citizens , Woman and Children included , they cannot complain  about any response to their war crimes 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

When will Hamas be held accountable for their violations  of international law ?

   They cannot really complain if Israel responds to war crimes committed by the Palestinians , if no ones going to hold them to accountable for their actions  .

  Palestinians  murdered Israeli citizens , Woman and Children included , they cannot complain  about any response to their war crimes 

For that matter, when will Israel be held accountable for its violations?

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Shooting and killing unarmed civilians is a war crime .

Israeli military killed unarmed civilians and children in their last invasion of Gaza.

As you say it is a war crime, but not one Israeli has been prosecuted for it. Even when they murdered an unarmed reporter no Israeli soldier has been charged.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/11/1175403626/palestinian-american-journalist-shireen-abu-akleh-was-killed-a-year-ago

A year ago today, Palestinian American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh was killed while doing her job, reporting in the West Bank.

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A new report from the group says at least 20 journalists have been killed by Israeli military fire since 2001. And it says, quote, "to date, no one has been held accountable."

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

When will Hamas be held accountable for their violations  of international law ?

   They cannot really complain if Israel responds to war crimes committed by the Palestinians , if no ones going to hold them to accountable for their actions  .

  Palestinians  murdered Israeli citizens , Woman and Children included , they cannot complain  about any response to their war crimes 

When will Israel be held accountable for their violations of International law?

Collective punishment and building illegal settlements on Palestinian land is illegal.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians  murdered Israeli citizens , Woman and Children included

Check the numbers, Israel wins the killing civilians atrocities by miles! Netinyahoo will be in his war mongering element!

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When will Israel be held accountable for their violations of International law?

Collective punishment and building illegal settlements on Palestinian land is illegal.

Neither side is being held accountable , so its a free for all fight .

No Queensbury rules in the Middle East 

I don't know why the world kisses Netinyahoos butt???

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Cutting electricity to all of Gaza is collective punishment and is IMO illegal under international law

Every single one of 7,000 rockets launched by the terrorist organisation Hamas, was fired indiscriminately at a civilian population with the aim of killing as many innocent civilians as possible; do you consider that collective punishment, or illegal under international law …. didn’t think so

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

When will Hamas be held accountable for their violations  of international law ?

   They cannot really complain if Israel responds to war crimes committed by the Palestinians , if no ones going to hold them to accountable for their actions  .

  Palestinians  murdered Israeli citizens , Woman and Children included , they cannot complain  about any response to their war crimes 

Who is responding to who seems to be a very subjective matter - is Israel responding to Hamas’s attack or is Hamas responding to Israel’ land theft and oppressive occupation?

5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Every single one of 7,000 rockets launched by the terrorist organisation Hamas, was fired indiscriminately at a civilian population with the aim of killing as many innocent civilians as possible; do you consider that collective punishment, or illegal under international law …. didn’t think so

Are you saying the the Israeli government should be judged by the same standards as a terrorist outfit such as Hamas?

I’m dumbfounded that the mossad dident catch wind of an operation of this size that beeing said the Palestinians will rue this day the Israeli will absolutely crush them and quickly to 2 to 3 days max

I wonder how Hamas got the funding for this well-coordinated attack….

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Israeli military killed unarmed civilians and children in their last invasion of Gaza.

As you say it is a war crime, but not one Israeli has been prosecuted for it. Even when they murdered an unarmed reporter no Israeli soldier has been charged.

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/11/1175403626/palestinian-american-journalist-shireen-abu-akleh-was-killed-a-year-ago

A year ago today, Palestinian American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh was killed while doing her job, reporting in the West Bank.

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A new report from the group says at least 20 journalists have been killed by Israeli military fire since 2001. And it says, quote, "to date, no one has been held accountable."

That case has been referred to to the International Criminal Court for Judgement , will the current Palestinian murders also be judged by the I.C.C ?

 

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Are you saying the the Israeli government should be judged by the same standards as a terrorist outfit such as Hamas?

I said exactly what I said; do you have a problem with reading, or just with understanding what you read ?

44 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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Cutting electricity to all of Gaza is collective punishment and is IMO illegal under international law, but Israel has been flouting that for decades with it's illegal occupation and land theft.

 

Palestinians bombing the power station that supplied Gaza with electricity was the cause of Gaza having their electricity  cut off

2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Who is responding to who seems to be a very subjective matter - is Israel responding to Hamas’s attack or is Hamas responding to Israel’ land theft and oppressive occupation?

IMHO ... Since Israel has broken almost every peace agreement they've signed, and ignored 100s of UN Resolution against them, (more than all other countries combined) I'm leaning toward the Palestinians being in the right.  

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IMHO only, but what they do to the Palestinians, many would consider a campaign of geocide, which I happen to agree with.

12 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Are you saying the the Israeli government should be judged by the same standards as a terrorist outfit such as Hamas?

Yes!

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

IMHO ... Since Israel has broken almost every peace agreement they've signed, and ignored 100s of UN Resolution against them, (more than all other countries combined) I'm leaning toward the Palestinians being in the right.  

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IMHO only, but what they do to the Palestinians, many would consider a campaign of geocide, which I happen to agree with.

Palestinians launched an attack on Israel with the intention  of killing as many Israelis as possible and that equates to Israel committing genocide of the Palestinians ?

1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Look them up yourself... they are there for all to see... I verified links to everything that he says.

Refer top of World News page:

 

”Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.”

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians launched an attack on Israel with the intention  of killing as many Israelis as possible and that equates to Israel committing genocide of the Palestinians ?

Have you just woken up??? This has been going on for years!

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

IMHO only, but what they do to the Palestinians, many would consider a campaign of geocide, which I happen to agree with.

Google ‘genocide’ because you obviously have no idea whatsoever as to the meaning of the word; however, as an obvious apologist for terrorism, that hardly surprises me.

30 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Every single one of 7,000 rockets launched by the terrorist organisation Hamas, was fired indiscriminately at a civilian population with the aim of killing as many innocent civilians as possible; do you consider that collective punishment, or illegal under international law …. didn’t think so

It cuts both ways!

25 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

I wonder how Hamas got the funding for this well-coordinated attack….

Russia, Iran, who knows?

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

IMHO only, but what they do to the Palestinians, many would consider a campaign of geocide, which I happen to agree with.

That "Genocide " isn't going too well is it .

Many Countries have a declining population and the Palestinians  have an increasing population 

 

 

 

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/palestinian-territory-occupied/population

 

6 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Google ‘genocide’ because you obviously have no idea whatsoever as to the meaning of the word; however, as an obvious apologist for terrorism, that hardly surprises me.

Google is your friends.  Stopping the flow of essentials, kills people, that's genocide ... IMHO

6 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Google is your friends.  Stopping the flow of essentials, kills people, that's genocide ... IMHO

Egyptian authorities  do like wise , they also have a closed border with Gaza , so the Egyptians are also committing genocide ?

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians launched an attack on Israel with the intention  of killing as many Israelis as possible and that equates to Israel committing genocide of the Palestinians ?

Why did Palestinians launch an attack on Israel?

 

One more victim identified .

The lower photo is of her in the back on a truck after being murdered and her copse being desecrated and spat upon whist they were shouting "Allah Ahkbar" .

  She was attending a musical peace festival when she got taken 

 

8 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Why did Palestinians launch an attack on Israel?

Because they have been oppressed by Israel for decades!