BREAKING NEWS! Iran potentially triggers World War 3

[AlexRich]

Just now, scottiejohn said:

Only if the Helo and the crew (ground and airborne) are on "alert 5"!

 

The time it took to respond beggared belief. The IDF would have known about the attack before any of them left Gaza. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I've understood you state false things all the time. Even if Israel attacked the GARAGE adjacent to the embassy, that's good enough for me to see it as an unprovoked Israeli attack. They say they thought the consultant was being used for purposes Israel didn't like. I"m sure Israel has people like this in all their embassies, consulates, and garages all over the world. 

Can you provide a link to those false things please then get back on topic, its not about me or you, its about facts

[Eloquent pilgrim]

9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I don't know the difference between an embassy and a consulate

 

In that case you might be better off on a thread that you have more understanding of; try one of the motoring posts, they are always entertaining.

[Brickleberry]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Attack. On 1 April 2024, the Iranian consulate annex building adjacent to the Iranian embassy

 

Now you understand

 

You do not understand. Here is what the US says about annexes:

 

https://diplomacy.state.gov/what-is-a-u-s-embassy/#:~:text=The U.S. Embassy Building,often architectural works of art.

Quote

The U.S. Embassy Building

A large embassy can have many buildings. The main embassy building is called the chancery, and additional buildings are called annexes. As the public faces of the United States in host countries, embassies are often architectural works of art.

 

[AreYouGerman]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to those false things please then get back on topic, its not about me or you, its about facts

 

Read the Wikipedia article and the title, "Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus". It even says "embassy compound". An "annex" building doesn't mean it's not the embassy anymore. It's about facts, not your feelings, Schlomo.

[rabas]

3 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

Yeah, you are absolutely correct but the boomer NPCs just parroting what a Zionist sitting in New York is telling them.

 

Well, no its not correct, is it. Embassies and consulates are generally not the same. Read, not Al Jazeera. 

 

On 1 April 2024, an Israeli airstrike destroyed the Iranian consulate annex building adjacent to the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Syria, killing 16 people, including a senior Quds Force commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi and seven other IRGC officers. WIKI

 

So, knocked off top Irani generals assigned to attacking Israel.  Which you ignore. 

[PremiumLane]

They really do love the sensationalist headlines on this forum, gets the boomers all frothed up

[norfolkandchance]

2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

In that case you might be better off on a thread that you have more understanding of; try one of the motoring posts, they are always entertaining.

Or Birds in your Garden.

[AreYouGerman]

1 minute ago, rabas said:

So, knocked off top Irani generals assigned to attacking Israel.  Which you ignore. 

 

Yeah, and Iran was trying to hit the people who kill Iranians. What's your point?

[rabas]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

Yeah, and Iran was trying to hit the people who kill Iranians. What's your point?

 

So you mean it's all OK?  You would apply different rules would you?

 

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to those false things please then get back on topic, its not about me or you, its about facts

God given facts?

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, rabas said:

 

You would apply different rules would you?

 

 

Yep. I wouldn't have ignored the plea from the Palestinians for 50 years.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

Read the Wikipedia article and the title, "Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus". It even says "embassy compound". An "annex" building doesn't mean it's not the embassy anymore. It's about facts, not your feelings, Schlomo.

I quoted the article. Anyway the Embassy was not touched in the missile strike, the annex consulate was. The photos are there to see.

[transam]

24 minutes ago, Goat said:

I would have preferred them than you blokes.

You are us blokes...........😂

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

I quoted the article. Anyway the Embassy was not touched in the missile strike, the annex consulate was. The photos are there to see.

 

So, it's okay now to hit embassy compounds which have a consulate on it? NPCs way of thinking is crazy!

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Well, no its not correct, is it. Embassies and consulates are generally not the same. Read, not Al Jazeera. 

 

On 1 April 2024, an Israeli airstrike destroyed the Iranian consulate annex building adjacent to the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Syria, killing 16 people, including a senior Quds Force commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi and seven other IRGC officers. WIKI

 

So, knocked off top Irani generals assigned to attacking Israel.  Which you ignore. 

Actually even the Hamas supporting Al Jazeera calls it the consulate.

 

Israel strikes Iran consulate in Syria’s capital Damascus: What we know

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/attack-on-iran-consulate-in-damascus-what-do-we-know

[Bkk Brian]

World leaders collectively condemn Iran's 'reckless' attack against Israel: 'We support Israel'

International world leaders collectively condemned Iran's drone and missile attacks on Israel, calling for peace in the Middle East.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said he condemned Iran’s "reckless" attack against Israel.

"I condemn in the strongest terms the Iranian regime's reckless attack against Israel," Sunak said in a statement. "Iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/world-leaders-collectively-condemn-irans-reckless-attack-against-israel-support-israel

[scottiejohn]

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It does not surprise me that you do not understand the difference, it is pretty complicated. 

 

A consulate is where you would go to replace your passport, or some other citizen service. 

 

An embassy is where the Ambassador has you over for drinks. 

There is only ever one Embassy in a country but there can be many Consulates!

An Embassy may be treated as Sovereign territory but a consulate is just an office for diplomats (often part time) to work in.

[expat_4_life]

53 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

What's really depressing is watching the news. Already they are talking about retaliating. WTF is going on?

The obvious answer is nobody knows for sure - I'm sure the diplomatic channels are brimming with activity.

An interesting article appeared in the FT a day before the attack, that hints at a calibrated response to the Israeli attack in Syria
https://www.ft.com/content/bdbc3ad0-376e-486f-a0be-fd6eea975d20

 

Question is where does it stand now?

Iran side: Iran is celebrating a successful retaliation. They responded to the attack on their Embassy in Syria. They showcased their military capabilities. They showcased powerful hypersonic missiles. Iran shows it is a force in the region. Iran saves face.

 

Israel side: CNN: "No reports of injuries directly through Iranian strikes" and "Israel's military says 99% of weapons fired by Iran intercepted" and finally "The US assessment is that Iran’s attacks had been largely unsuccessful." Israel's Air Defense is strong. US Air Defense is strong (MIC sales $$$). Israel saves face.

 

US/Biden WH: Biden is trying to get re-elected. Any other time in his Presidency and Biden might likely be all in...BUT Jake Sullivan who runs Biden's foreign policy is a campaign guy at heart, and he knows war with Iran would damage Biden's re-election. They opted for a calibrated response/defense, with an off-ramp for all sides. FT hinted (in the link I provided) that US and Iran are in back-channel talks facilitated by Oman, "Tehran is unlikely to target Israeli diplomatic facilities in the region, said an official briefed on talks between Iran and Oman, the Gulf state that has often facilitated back-channel diplomacy between Tehran and Washington."

Biden WH official readout: "Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack." KEY WORD is "diplomatic" not military response.

Conclusion: There is no need for further escalation. A wider war can EASILY be avoided. Everyone can walk away from this claiming a WIN.

Problem: Netanyahu, hardliners (whispering in Bibi's ears), as well as Biden WH mixed messaging. Israel appears to be going along with the US narrative (for now), but Netanyhu may want to test Biden and launch a strike on Iran. Biden WH said they will not take part in a conflict with Iran, but Biden WH also said their support for Israel is ironclad. MIXED MESSAGING.

Biden said the US will not join Israel in an attack against Iran, but Bibi may want to test that statement, and may push him to do just that. Long post, but I believe this is where we are. NO NEED FOR WIDER WAR! This is an easy one to walk away from. All Biden and his team of foreign policy advisors need to do is make it very clear that this ends NOW, for all parties involved.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

World leaders collectively condemn Iran's 'reckless' attack against Israel: 'We support Israel'

International world leaders collectively condemned Iran's drone and missile attacks on Israel, calling for peace in the Middle East.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said he condemned Iran’s "reckless" attack against Israel.

"I condemn in the strongest terms the Iranian regime's reckless attack against Israel," Sunak said in a statement. "Iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/world-leaders-collectively-condemn-irans-reckless-attack-against-israel-support-israel

Iran caused more deaths in Iran than in Israel.🥴

 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

20 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

 I understand the Jewish genocide of the Palestinians.

 

 

I’ve seen all of your pro-anything and everything, islamic / muslim / Hamas, on many threads on this forum; and here again, you expose your virulent antisemitism; because despite having the word ‘genocide’ explained to you on numerous occasions, your inbuilt hatred cajoles you into misusing it once again …. lack of education or lack of self discipline ? an amalgam of the two most likely.   

 

 

[Robert Paulson]

American citizens will see zero benefit from a war with iran. Therefore, one will most likely take place. attacking consulates is more egregious than most seem to know. Israel is quite simply an American citizens worst nightmare. There is no upside and we fund their entire military, it’s a disgrace. 

[Keep Right]

I think old sleepy Joe is responsible for Iran having the go-dads for this strike because old Joe sure does not have any. This strike would have never happened if a true patriot such as Trump were President of the United States. They will bring old sleepy Joe out of the basement for a few get tough speeches and then bring him back down for a nap, Israel is on their own and certainly capable of making glass out of Iran.

[frank83628]

title should read ....israel and the US have been provoking ww3 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Keep Right said:

I think old sleepy Joe is responsible for Iran having the go-dads for this strike because old Joe sure does not have any. This strike would have never happened if a true patriot such as Trump were President of the United States. They will bring old sleepy Joe out of the basement for a few get tough speeches and then bring him back down for a nap, Israel is on their own and certainly capable of making glass out of Iran.

I bet you've got a ball cap on, back-to-front...................🥱

[transam]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

title should read ....israel and the US have been provoking ww3 

Nope, but, you could start your own thread, Franky, for folk like you..............

[Eloquent pilgrim]

6 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

we fund their entire military, it’s a disgrace. 

 

Link, or any evidence at all to this egregiously false claim please  …. thanks

[Brickleberry]

9 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

Biden said the US will not join Israel in an attack against Iran, but Bibi may want to test that statement, and may push him to do just that. Long post, but I believe this is where we are. NO NEED FOR WIDER WAR! This is an easy one to walk away from. All Biden and his team of foreign policy advisors need to do is make it very clear that this ends NOW, for all parties involved.

 

Shortened your quote because this is the only part I wanted to respond to, I agree with pretty much everything else in your post.

 

It's only an easy one to walk away from if you want to walk away .

 

I don't think Bibi and his cronies want to walk away from this, because it is winning them global support again. What is really confusing is HOW is this madness winning approval from western nations? It is unthinkable! If Iran had bombed one of America's consulates - which is against international law - you would see condemnation from all nations, and a massive - and justified - response from America.

[stevenl]

14 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

There is only ever one Embassy in a country but there can be many Consulates!

An Embassy may be treated as Sovereign territory but a consulate is just an office for diplomats (often part time) to work in.

I think the consulate was part of the embassy compound. If correct that makes the difference irrelevant.

[AreYouGerman]

This is a picture of an US embassy. Please, anybody, point to the annex building which would be okay to attack without the US retaliating.