2400 excess deaths in Thailand!!

[bermondburi]

Please discuss:

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-53073046?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15963679451873&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-53073046

 

 

[scubascuba3]

No surprise, although maybe previous years varied a lot as well

[Susco]

5 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Please discuss:

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-53073046?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15963679451873&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-53073046

I lost count how many times this particular subject already has been posted and discussed in this forum over the last month

[FritsSikkink]

Proofs nothing.

[2long]

I used to believe the BBC until I read about Bill Gates' support.

2% isn't such a big jump, taking into consideration the growth in population, farang jumping off balconies and policemen riding in front of slow-moving Ferraris on the way back from a 2am dental appointment.

[NanLaew]

Thailand dodged the (first) bullet.

 

Next?

[saakura]

1 hour ago, Susco said:

I lost count how many times this particular subject already has been posted and discussed in this forum over the last month

Because there are many bitter expats living in miserable circumstances here who simply cannot accept the fact that Thailand did far better than the advanced western countries.

[sapson]

There is no evidence of prostitution in Pattaya.

 

The cheques in the post.

 

Thailand is a Covid free success story.

 

 

Does the Thai government routinely hide the truth? ,,,,, Do bears sh@t in the woods?

 

 

 

[bodga]

19 minutes ago, saakura said:

Because there are many bitter expats living in miserable circumstances here who simply cannot accept the fact that Thailand did far better than the advanced western countries.

yet  no  one  can explain why

[sammieuk1]

Probably due to unusually high number of pneumonia cases my Bangkok ICU nurse/sister in law was telling my Mrs about in March ????  

[Scott]

Inflammatory post removed.  

 

[Crossy]

From the same report the UK has 43% excess deaths!

 

I know where I'd rather be right now despite the risk of being flattened by a bus.

[RichardColeman]

9 hours ago, saakura said:

Because there are many bitter expats living in miserable circumstances here who simply cannot accept the fact that Thailand did far better than the advanced western countries.

 

 

Do you seriously think a country that fixed its elections and relies on tourism will be honest with figures ? Be praising NK soon

[ExpatOilWorker]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

From the same report the UK has 43% excess deaths!

 

I know where I'd rather be right now despite the risk of being flattened by a bus.

.......or hit by a pickup truck coming out of a driveway an early morning ????????

[Crossy]

5 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

.......or hit by a pickup truck coming out of a driveway an early morning ????????

 

Ouch! It was an SUV!

 

[Yinn]

10 hours ago, saakura said:

Because there are many bitter expats living in miserable circumstances here who simply cannot accept the fact that Thailand did far better than the advanced western countries.

Yes, they complain and moan. Should be happy thailand help them not die. 

 

2400 “excess” deaths. 3 months.

= 800 per 1 month

= 26 per 1 day

= 1 “excess” death per province per 3 days. 

= false narrative 

[jojothai]

9 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Without bothering  to look further than the charts supplied above it is notable that the graph line  of "expected deaths " indicates a rapid descent and then a spike slightly higher and slightly earlier than expectations presumably based on averages of historical  data.

There is the spike of expected deaths that must be songkran. As we all know there would be a jump during the deadly days.

Because songkran was cancelled the number of deaths would be expected to be lower in april than normal by a large number.

Perhaps taking that into account may make the difference look larger?

It was about 390 deaths at songkran last year.

Thats not really so significant.

Edited August 3, 2020 by jojothai
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[tonray]

11 hours ago, 2long said:

I used to believe the BBC until I read about Bill Gates' support.

????

[rabas]

2% is a small number, may be many people were deterred from visiting hospitals.  My wife and I were when our hospital announced 7 doctors and staff diagnosed positive 5 days after our last visit.

 

That's when you start wearing a mask.

[geriatrickid]

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

Yes, they complain and moan. Should be happy thailand help them not die. 

 

2400 “excess” deaths. 3 months.

= 800 per 1 month

= 26 per 1 day

= 1 “excess” death per province per 3 days. 

= false narrative 

Why is it a false narrative. The data indicates that there are a number of increased deaths over time. Considering the fact that Songkran was cancelled,  infectious foreigners were banned, there was slowdown in construction and a lockdown and some very effective social distancing measures taken,  there should have been a decrease in the number of deaths over the previous year. Instead we have an excess of deaths.  Thailand doesn't do full autopsies so it is  easy to say a patient died from a cause other than Covid19.