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It's Getting Worse...More Shops Closing Down

Even that nice Pharmacy who had western medications in the airconditioned area at Tesco lotus Sukhumvit  Pattaya South  has stopped .

 

Even the yellow cabs taxi stands are disappeared same area ..., nah..!  next year i am gone too ....Pats. not same anymore as before  so why hanging around longer ...????

I thought Pattaya was bad...I'm currently in Hua Hin and Pattaya is crazy crowded with people and lively by comparison.

They close shops but they build new bars here in Central Pattaya. Especially in this Tree Town area they build as if there wouldn't be any problems. At the moment there are almost no customers in the bars. Perhaps they don't need any anymore. 

4 hours ago, david555 said:

nah..!  next year i am gone too

 

Thank **** for that.  No more irrelevant gibberish complaints.

25 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said:

Is there? ... where?

 

In case not extracting the urine ...

 

Multiple off topic bickering posts and replies have been removed, stop it please!!

come on boys and girls...

16 hours ago, Oldie said:

They close shops but they build new bars here in Central Pattaya. Especially in this Tree Town area they build as if there wouldn't be any problems. At the moment there are almost no customers in the bars. Perhaps they don't need any anymore. 

 

Betting on the come as it were...

 

Not really a better time for a well capitalized business to expand and or renovate.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Betting on the come as it were...

 

Not really a better time for a well capitalized business to expand and or renovate.

Even before Corona many bars opened and then gave up after a while. Perhaps there are many dreaming that owning a bar might be the paradise... It is - for the landlords that obviously benefit from an endless number of such dreamers. 

1 hour ago, Oldie said:

Even before Corona many bars opened and then gave up after a while. Perhaps there are many dreaming that owning a bar might be the paradise... It is - for the landlords that obviously benefit from an endless number of such dreamers. 

 

And it could be a great opportunity. Certainly the herd has thinned and properties with great locations have come on the market. My position is that now is an opportune time to expand or renovate.

 

Yes, a lot of businesses run by westerners in Thailand fail, but lot of businesses in western countries run by westerners fail as well. I have no interest in running a bar or restaurant, but I wish all the best to those that do.  

 

I would much rather be a dreamer than a scoffer. 

 

 

 

On 3/2/2021 at 6:24 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

I thought Pattaya was bad...I'm currently in Hua Hin and Pattaya is crazy crowded with people and lively by comparison.

So I hear of Phuket and Samui.....

22 hours ago, petermik said:

come on boys and girls...

???? Handbags At Dawn

On 3/2/2021 at 6:36 PM, Oldie said:

They close shops but they build new bars here in Central Pattaya. Especially in this Tree Town area they build as if there wouldn't be any problems. At the moment there are almost no customers in the bars. Perhaps they don't need any anymore. 

At 6.36 PM I would not expect too many customers there, but there are usually a fair number later on. 

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

So I hear of Phuket and Samui.....

Have moved on down the road and now in Chumphon...Phuket tomorrow ????

On 3/3/2021 at 12:04 PM, Yellowtail said:

I would much rather be a dreamer than a scoffer. 

 

I would much rather be a customer than an owner here, regardless of Covid.  

I spent a few days at our sister city of Hua Hun, directly across the Gulf of Thailand from Pattaya. The main takeaway from my 3 days at the Centara Hua Hin is that if Pattaya is on life support then Hua Hin is dead. The 300+ rooms at the beautiful Centara had maybe 20-25 rooms occupied during my mid-week stay if the numbers at the morning breakfast (excellent) are anything to go by. The main central strip from the highway to the beach, lined with restaurants and shops for tourists was completely dead, with maybe a dozen or so of them being open along the 3 block stretch. Soi Bintabat ( Walking Street Hua Hin style) was similarly empty, with a half dozen or so empty bars for some reason being open. In the couple hours I spent in walkabouts during the evenings, I probably saw fewer than 25 foreigners in the restaurants, bars, or on the street. For everyone's sake, hopefully with the vaccinations, we are at least at the beginning of the end of the Great Thailand Tourism Shutdown.

 

Some impressions from around town...

 

Sushi lovers out of luck at Hagi

 

I wonder what was here...

 

No rooms available at the Sirin Hotel

 

Now open 0 hours

 

Another mystery...what might have been here?

 

Gold for the misses...try down the road

 

Hua Hin main Street

 

Ronald the only one holding forth at the Banana Mall

 

All other businesses closed

 

Curiously the DHL office is open...the mails must get through

 

Little la dolce vita these days

 

While patiently awaiting the tourists' return

 

Maybe half a dozen drinkers this nite

 

Shuttered 

 

That next great novel will have to wait

 

 

I think we all agree.

On 3/5/2021 at 4:59 PM, Leaver said:

 

I would much rather be a customer than an owner here, regardless of Covid.  

 

Not me, but I understand...

 

On 3/3/2021 at 12:04 PM, Yellowtail said:

I would much rather be a dreamer than a scoffer. 

 

I'd rather be a hammer than a nail, ????

Everyone sing along now ????

On 3/3/2021 at 10:50 AM, Yellowtail said:

 

Betting on the come as it were...

 

Not really a better time for a well capitalized business to expand and or renovate.

It is a bet. If the vaccine programs work and things return to high season situation by the end of this year all is ok but if you are sitting around in December with no tourists then you may have problems. To me it is a bit 50/50. My landlady wants to extend my business  thinking everything will be back to normal soon but I am  thinking of going back to Australia and givingup on it all up thinking it won't be till late 2022 or later  that things change.

2 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

It is a bet. If the vaccine programs work and things return to high season situation by the end of this year all is ok but if you are sitting around in December with no tourists then you may have problems. To me it is a bit 50/50. My landlady wants to extend my business  thinking everything will be back to normal soon but I am  thinking of going back to Australia and givingup on it all up thinking it won't be till late 2022 or later  that things change.

 

I would certainly be looking for at least some rent relief to stick it out. While the pie will likely be significantly smaller this year and next, their will be less people getting a slice as well. For guys that are well capitalized, getting a good lease on a great location makes taking  hit for a year  not so bad. 

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I would certainly be looking for at least some rent relief to stick it out. While the pie will likely be significantly smaller this year and next, their will be less people getting a slice as well. For guys that are well capitalized, getting a good lease on a great location makes taking  hit for a year  not so bad. 

Thanks. My business partner is looking after it at present. Landlady is pretty easygoing. I live in Pattaya but the business is not there. Have mainly been trying to gauge. Will there be a high season this year ( considering the 2020/21 season is virtually gone?)

18 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

It is a bet. If the vaccine programs work and things return to high season situation by the end of this year all is ok but if you are sitting around in December with no tourists then you may have problems. To me it is a bit 50/50. My landlady wants to extend my business  thinking everything will be back to normal soon but I am  thinking of going back to Australia and givingup on it all up thinking it won't be till late 2022 or later  that things change.

All depends on the government. If they make visas easy for long stay they might get loads of retirees arriving, but if they don't sort immigration it might go on touristless for eons.

Thailand just wasn't a good deal anymore before corona anyway.

There will be a high season, the question is how high, and how competitive. 

 

There are a lot of governments involved, not just Thailand's. If Thailand opened up today to everyone that has been vaccinated, how many people would be able to come even if they wanted to? 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All depends on the government. If they make visas easy for long stay they might get loads of retirees arriving, but if they don't sort immigration it might go on touristless for eons.

Thailand just wasn't a good deal anymore before corona anyway.

really easy for me to get a retirement visa. What's the problem?

8 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

There are a lot of governments involved, not just Thailand's. If Thailand opened up today to everyone that has been vaccinated, how many people would be able to come even if they wanted to? 

That is everyone who has been vaccinated in the last 3 months.

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On 3/12/2021 at 7:08 AM, Yellowtail said:

If Thailand opened up today to everyone that has been vaccinated, how many people would be able to come even if they wanted to? 

Do you mean able to come due to lack of flights, or due to lack of funds?

On 3/12/2021 at 8:19 AM, TaaSaparot said:

That is everyone who has been vaccinated in the last 3 months.

42% of UK population vaccinated as of today.

49 minutes ago, polpott said:

42% of UK population vaccinated as of today.

Is that two doses, or only one?   

The news about AZ is concerning.   It could slow the roll out of many countries.