Thailand Road Carnage: Targets announced for the reduction in road death toll

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

It has been revealed what the Thai authorities are aiming for in attempting to reduce the appalling death toll on the roads, recognized as some of the most deadly on earth.

 

A meeting was held that was chaired by the interior minister General Anupong Paojinda and his deputy Nippon Bunyamanee.

 

It was a coming together of minds and authorities under the auspices of the Road Safety Operation Center and essentially was looking at ways to improve road safety at the upcoming Songkran festival next month.

 

Nippon was quoted as saying that everyone had to pull together to "jointly consider and find ways to enhance efficiency in reducing accidents". 

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Almost no concrete measures were reported by 77kaoded in a flimsy report.

 

But there were some intriguing targets announced for limiting the carnage on the roads that has been admitted by DPM Prawit Wongsuwan to be in excess of 20,000 and perhaps as high as 24,000 to 26,000 deaths anually. 

 

The meeting last week heard that an accident reduction plan from 2022 to 2027 had the following targets for road death:

 

To reduce it to 22.68 per 100,000 in the population by 2022 and 12 per 100,000 by 2027.

 

Thaivisa has done the math based on a population of 70 million people.

 

This would mean that the target for 2022 is 15,876 dead.

 

And for 2027 8,400 dead. 

 

Source: 77kaoded

 

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Lets have a crack down and make Thailand the Hub of Cracking down on road safety, lots of meetings, lots of announcements, lots of pu-yai’s back back patting...  Lots of hot air and nothing filtering down to reality on the roads... 

 

 

Thailand Road Carnage: Targets announced......

 

Anyone else thinking, trees, sign posts, other motorists, motorbike... All good solid targets for the drunk and careless drivers....  

It's that time of year - again

17 minutes ago, webfact said:

Almost no concrete measures were reported by 77kaoded in a flimsy report

Just as well. Thais crash into enough concrete things already...

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

 

This would mean that the target for 2022 is 15,876 dead.

 

And for 2027 8,400 dead

 

Yea right .. more chance of Thailand getting to the Moon before that'll happen .. 

Does this not put into perspective the

" success " in the C V fight when they seem unable to take measures against quantifiable problems like the road death toll that are there to be seen on a daily basis .. 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, webfact said:

Almost no concrete measures were reported by 77kaoded in a flimsy report.

There never are and never have been.

If the cops, whose duty it is to uphold the law could get out there and actually stop every speeding driver and red light runner they might start to get somewhere. All the meaningless chat in the world will do absolutely zero, but it is all I have ever seen in my many years here. Sadly I suspect the 2022 and 2027 numbers will remain fairly in line with what we see now.

30 minutes ago, webfact said:

Almost no concrete measures were reported 

Well theres a surprise, no concrete measures reported, there never are, its all wind and p++s.

Same as every time before lots of useless talk, but no action.

Just start collecting data to know where/what to target and stop with all the hot air.

1)  Count all deaths, not just at the scene, but any death due to an accident.

 

All deaths to people without a license

All deaths to underage drivers 

All deaths due to people involve not having lights on or wrong lights (no red lights in rear)

All deaths due to people driving the wrong way 

All deaths due to small bikes (less than 400 cc) and all big bikes

All deaths due to no helmets

All deaths with > 2 people on motorbike

All deaths involving u-turns

Just a start but add more categories ... 

Recycle Last year's paper...

59 minutes ago, webfact said:

Almost no concrete measures were reported by 77kaoded in a flimsy report.

Good to see they're on it! Little or no idea! ????

You know what would help them reach this target? INCREASING the speed limit. Yea, that will fix it.

First a proper education in driving.. not only 5 hrs watching movies, but 30 hrs active driving with an instructor.

Secondly enforcement of the traffic law.. traffic police AND normal police have to check everytime driverslicense, alcohol, black smoke, lights in front and back and brakes.. and of course helmets.. Not ok confiscate the car till the problems are solved. ( buy new lamps, new filter, helmet  and or be sober.) Speeding confiscate the car and stupid <deleted> revoke their license and even jailtime. Fine at least 10% of the value of the car   (showroomprice)..  See what will happen.....you don't need to wait till 2027. Start tomorrow!! 

I would put the ' Road Safety Operation Center ' in the same category as the so called ' Pollution Control, Prevention & Mitigation Department ' They are both totally bloody useless and do not do what it says on the tin. ???????????? 

Oh dear another long thread. ????

why even bother. most police from back home would have an aneurysm within 5 minutes of being on the roads here from the horrors they saw. they wouldn't even know where to begin. 

 

it's the mindset of thai people that's the problem. make all the laws and announcements you want. it means nothing. 

42 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Good to see they're on it! Little or no idea! ????

The 77kaoded report said nothing like that.
 

That was the thaivisa take on it all. Carefully worded.

2 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Yea right .. more chance of Thailand getting to the Moon before that'll happen .. 

They'd only crash into it. 

2 hours ago, colinneil said:

Well theres a surprise, no concrete measures reported, there never are, its all wind and p++s.

Same as every time before lots of useless talk, but no action.

They haven't as yet formed a committee......that's to follow.

Thais wearing masks is a success, wearing a helmet seems to be getting unpopular again. 

painting lines on the road is futile. 

'Almost no concrete measures were reported by 77kaoded in a flimsy report.'

 

I can solve that for them.

1. Proper driving test.

2. Proper policing.

 

A quick look at YouTube should provide examples of both from countries where life is important. They don't even need to get out of bed to do that.

Instead of meetings that won't accomplish anything, maybe they should tell the police to DO THEIR JOBS! There is absolutely no policing of the roads. No traffic stops. Motorbike drivers driving at high speeds with no helmets. Delivery drivers jutting in and out of traffic. People making their own lanes. It's like the wild Wild West.

 

And there are so many blind intersections it's dangerous as hell. Put up more mirrors so people can see traffic coming!

 

I live in Pattaya and it's absolutely nuts here. At times I don't even want to drive.

12 hours ago, piewarmer said:

Thais wearing masks is a success, wearing a helmet seems to be getting unpopular again. 

painting lines on the road is futile. 

so true, was the taking kids to school  was  behind a scooter the rider who was not wearing a helmet  approaching a police check bike gets waved  through and I get stopped. what the hell  is going on,  hello it`s a check point  .

The government can have all the targets in the world but until the rules and regulations already in place are policed & acted upon correctly nothing will change, if you walk along beach road in Pattaya you can hear motorbikes speeding down the road way before seeing them and these bike have to pass the police station, this tells you how much respect the Thai's have for the rules and regulations & that's only the ones speeding ...............

Coming on the heels of the announcements about the raising of the speed limit to 120kph, I presume the target is being revised upwards?

As I understand it, the secret to happiness is to have lower expectations. The Thai government has always made me happy in that regard.

14 hours ago, mr mr said:

why even bother. most police from back home would have an aneurysm within 5 minutes of being on the roads here from the horrors they saw. they wouldn't even know where to begin. 

 

it's the mindset of thai people that's the problem. make all the laws and announcements you want. it means nothing. 

I didn't have an aneurysm and turned down an offer to be a foreign volunteer at the local "cop shop". The lack of traffic enforcement is both laughable and pathetic, much like these committee meetings.

Why not increase the speed limit?

No wait.....

15 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

Just start collecting data to know where/what to target and stop with all the hot air.

1)  Count all deaths, not just at the scene, but any death due to an accident.

 

All deaths to people without a license

All deaths to underage drivers 

All deaths due to people involve not having lights on or wrong lights (no red lights in rear)

All deaths due to people driving the wrong way 

All deaths due to small bikes (less than 400 cc) and all big bikes

All deaths due to no helmets

All deaths with > 2 people on motorbike

All deaths involving u-turns

Just a start but add more categories ... 

You think too mutt

12 hours ago, kimamey said:

I can solve that for them.

1. Proper driving test.

2. Proper policing.

 

Oh come on! The problem IS solved

1. Do nothing 

2. Count the bodies

 

 

They really need outside advice. The problem is that outsiders won't take into account the fact that corruption and the class system are major issues in the problem.

 

Anyine on thaivisa could come up with a list of ten ways to improve the situation but many just wouldn't be viable here due to the reasons above

Vast vast majority, like 95% of the deaths are caused by reckless motorcycle riders.  I'm driving every day and am constantly dodging bikes zipping in front, behind, to the idea of me, making restless passes.  I feel like I am constantly coddling little boys on dangerous bikes.