4 hours ago, Jessoro said:

What about local people, can they travel freely 

 

They are kept like mushrooms.

This half-assed plan has more holes in it than a Pattaya mongers Leo Singlet... grand opening, grand closing.

 

Sincerely 

 

MORRIS

Ex Bar Owner, Speaks Thai 

and a Darwin award goes to....

WOW with that many coming they can all play in the same sandbox

Well, the difficult part of this equation is factoring in the desire of a tourist to visit a destination that has been decimated by this insane shutdown. Who comes first? Tourists or business owners? Will the people who have been wiped out by this return? No. Will new people take their place? Will Chinese investors swoop in and turn Thailand into Cambodia #2? So many unanswered questions. 

 

So, let's make some predictions. Of international tourists.

Balance of 2021.

Phuket - 5,200

Samui- 4,100

Thailand total- 17,600

 

2022

Phuket - 45,000

Samui- 38,000

Thailand total- 1,100,000

 

2023

Phuket - 320,000

Samui- 255,000

Thailand total - 2,300,000

 

2024? Possibly as many as 3,000,000 tourists. 

 

I think from 2025 forward, 4 to 10 million a year. I doubt Thailand will see more than 15 million tourists a year, within our lifetimes. The "TAT glory years" are a thing of the past. 

 

Too many problems already existed prior to Covid. And none were addresses. Zippo. Nada. Nunca. Zero. 

 

Some current Samui images:

 

 

This report is altogether ill-founded. I am in Australia and am planning to arrive in Phuket on July 10. The Thai Embassy doesn't want to know me and in fact won't process my Certificate of Entry until 15 days before my planned date of departure - and they say to NOT book flights until after then.

 

I am told that Consulates in the US are operating under the same rules - so OF COURSE  people have not booked yet, even if they are coming.

 

This has nothing to do with Thai Government unrealistic idealism (although that very well may exist) but rather, journalists not doing their homework.

4 hours ago, pattjock said:

There will probably be no tourists at all until everything has been opened for at least a month. Who would risk going there if everything could be closed?

Most people will not dive into a swimming pool without checking the depth of the water first , to do otherwise you would have to be a headbanger ... literally ... Ouch ! 
The details for the Sandbox are not final . Everything is subject to adjustment, more information to come , or could simply be cancelled by the authorities who don't give a toss about me or you or our costs or plans .
Have we the full list of conditions yet .. no .. list of approved hotels , can my lady fly in from BKK to meet me unvaccinated ... because they can't handle the vaccinations...And More Folks ! Thrill seekers Extraordinaire Apply Now ! 
The Phuket Sandbox .... from the people who gave you .... Insert Stupid Declaration Here.  

I hope CNN are going to interview some <deleted> off expats with regards to the shambles vaccine program.

43 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

And what is WHO vaccine? They have make they own or you just dont want say Sinopharm?

 

Perhaps he means a vaccine approved by the World Health association 

15 minutes ago, Iamemjay said:

This report is altogether ill-founded. I am in Australia and am planning to arrive in Phuket on July 10. The Thai Embassy doesn't want to know me and in fact won't process my Certificate of Entry until 15 days before my planned date of departure - and they say to NOT book flights until after then.

 

I am told that Consulates in the US are operating under the same rules - so OF COURSE  people have not booked yet, even if they are coming.

 

This has nothing to do with Thai Government unrealistic idealism (although that very well may exist) but rather, journalists not doing their homework.

 

Why are you travelling to Thailand? What's the attraction. Genuinely curious.

 

Sincerely 

 

MORRIS 

And what about the quarantine period? If they don't remove this requirement for all, both vaccinated and not vaccinated, no tourist will came not now not ever.

A friend of mine has sent me a video clip about his vacation in Moscow , no restrictions at all, every shops and business are open, no masks at all. Another planet compared to the land of smile, a smile that no longer exists for some time now. 

Once upon a time

in a desperate tourist nation

a Minister who thought he was prime

but could not ever tell the right time,

or even do the right math

promised that tourists would come by the 20's

With CNN to report

Oh what a tangled web we weave he said

when for a $1 we plan to deceive 

5 hours ago, Jessoro said:

What about local people, can they travel freely 

Here's a recent Q&A session between Trunk and TAT.

 

3 minutes ago, KhunMorris said:

 

Why are you travelling to Thailand? What's the attraction. Genuinely curious.

 

Sincerely 

 

MORRIS 

Genuinely false 

3 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Wow !

Phuket seems to be bottom of the heap for Tourists.

You would think with all the C##p then Americans have been through with this awful Covid, they would be busting to get away to the Sun for a few weeks.

Maybe they are getting away, just not to Phuket. 

seems Hawaii and Mexico would be better alternatives?

Thailand needs to pick up the ???????? in its own backyard before extending any invitation to foreign guests, period!

4 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

Not sure anything will be throbbing on Phuket come July 1st ....

Maybe only one thing throbbing In the bars 55555

1 hour ago, EricTh said:

That's because most Americans who wanted to come have already arrived. I see many Americans around.

 

Don't know if they're American but I do see a lot of big white noses poking out over the top of masks. 

Why fly 24 hours for a "maybe" destination.

 

Most US families will be going to Hawaii or staying on the mainland for their holidays this summer.

 

 

 

 

Twenty US bookings from July 9th. Sounds very much like over crowding to me.

The more I see all these reports I realise they are only dreams and that there is no chance of me visiting Thailand any time soon. The biggest problem is shortage of vaccines throughout Asia as no country has a credible vaccination programme including China

Isn't July usually (even without Covid) a rather unpopular time to visit Thailand?

 

And it kind of sucks even more if you cannot even order alcohol while it's raining outside.

2 hours ago, ericdiam said:

It's real hot summer time in usa and Europe next few months with close to no restrictions anymore. Why would they fly all the way here. To find 90% still closed. And rain season

Thats a very good point that I over looked.

5 hours ago, pattjock said:

There will probably be no tourists at all until everything has been opened for at least a month. Who would risk going there if everything could be closed?

 

Even then this government way of doing things, changing rules without even a days warning, will make tourists think twice before booking a trip.

 

 

Chicken and egg. Why would any business owner go through the expense of re-opening if there are no tourists?

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Yutthasak also said that the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) have still got to ratify the details that will allow double dose vaccinated tourists to enter Thailand

Double dosed tourists to enter a max 65% single dosed Phuket?

So why not allow 65% single dosed tourists in... or is that not safe for Thailand?

Safe trusted Thailand.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that he had been in discussions with his counterparts at the Thai tourism ministry and they were expecting 3-4 million foreign tourists this year. 

 

Thaivisa did the math - that would mean for the top end assessment 18,691 would need to arrive every day on average.

They really are in La-la land.

If they keep hammering the USD, they could lose those 20 Americans.  Very few will travel to an overpriced unvaccinated country.

5 hours ago, Jessoro said:

What about local people, can they travel freely 

Only if they've had two doses?

5 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

Not sure anything will be throbbing on Phuket come July 1st ....

I doubt if the girls will think it's worth while opening up either.

open for tourists isnt the same as tourists are coming

 

This is one of the very few reports on bookings by tourists rather than hopeful projections and possible arrival numbers.

 

the trouble is that businesses need tourists on the ground spending money to run their business, and the tourists wont come until they are already running.

 

When phuket had its domestic reopening last summer, I was going to kata with my GF every month for the nice quiet beaches. But after 3 trips she wouldnt go anymore because there were only a few restaurants and no shops open.

 

It wont take too many reports by people who come to play in the sandbox and only find cat turds in it to keep more people from making the trip.