13 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

He has reportedly blamed it all on his being high on drugs at the time so of course it is not his fault at all - the world is to blame for making him high.  ????

given that he'll be tried in thai courts under thai law it's actually not a bad defense strategy

5 hours ago, Almer said:

Not suggesting but waiting with interest the final report, the reporting has been somewhat poor to say the least.

don't hold your breath or expect anything resembling the truth - this guy I have no doubt is very guilty of something - but ...............................................we will never know what really went on here IMO, I will reach my own conclusions when I hear about 12 year kids and attempted rape, this story is more than the lady in the massage shop and nobody wants to tell it, we might find out more if his full name is released IMO

5 hours ago, smedly said:

don't hold your breath or expect anything resembling the truth - this guy I have no doubt is very guilty of something - but ...............................................we will never know what really went on here IMO, I will reach my own conclusions when I hear about 12 year kids and attempted rape, this story is more than the lady in the massage shop and nobody wants to tell it, we might find out more if his full name is released IMO

His full name was released yesterday along with his ID on this or another thread. Robert Andrew Gordon

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

His full name was released yesterday along with his ID on this or another thread. Robert Andrew Gordon

Also, a full face photo (i.e. unmasked) is available on the banned one; seems very attached to his shades for some reason.

American man arrested in Bangkok after alleged raping of massage therapist and attempted sexual abuse of girl in Khon Kaen

 

 

A 37-year-old American man who allegedly raped a female massage therapist and attempted to sexually abuse a 12-year-old girl in Khon Kaen has been arrested in Bangkok, according to the Royal Thai Police.

 

Major General Damronsak Kittiprapat, the Deputy Commander of the Royal Thai Police, told the press earlier today, October 2nd, 2021, “On September 27th A 37-year-old American man had been accused of attacking and raping a 45-year-old female massage therapist at a massage shop, leaving her bloodied and beaten, in Khon Kaen City before speeding away on a red sports-style motorbike.”

 

“Shortly after the incident at the massage shop around 1:00 P.M., he attempted to commit sexual abuse to a 12-year-old girl (Some reports from Thai media have stated the victim was 13) who was helping her parents sell honey at a roadside stall on Mittraphap Road in Ban Pai during the daytime. He stopped his motorbike, which had no license plates, and assaulted the girl, exposing himself to her. The shocking incident was stopped by a passing oil tank driver as the girl’s parents were not immediately present. The oil truck driver beeped his horn several times, stopped his vehicle, and stepped out to attempt to forcefully stop the suspect, but the suspect fled on his motorbike. Following this incident and both police reports filed by the victims, we began to track down the foreign suspect, who showed no respect for Thai law or others.” Major General Damronsak stated.

 

Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/10/02/american-man-claiming-to-be-high-on-drugs-arrested-in-bangkok-after-alleged-raping-of-massage-therapist-and-attempted-sexual-abuse-of-young-girl-in-khon-kaen/

 

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That beer belly will be lost on prison rations...I hope he likes Gaeng Jute clear soup and rice

getting a much clearer picture now of what we're dealing with and it isn't good

 

lets hope money doesn't come into play with this as it so often does in Thailand

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13 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Absolutely not, despite the fact that his has not been found guilty yet. 

 

Everytime a farang is charged with a crime, all the others jump out the woodwork to show their disgust and to dissociate themselves from this kind of guy. It's the same with them criticizing alcoholics, drug addicts, English teachers, just self-righteous judgement to raise their own low self-esteem. 

These crimes happen all the time with Thais, yet they never comment on it. 

Come on Neero just because I criticise alcoholics, drug addicts, English teachers and the like it does not mean I'm criticising you or have low self-esteem. 

Got to have some pleasure in life, that's all. 

8 minutes ago, rott said:

Come on Neero just because I criticise alcoholics, drug addicts, English teachers and the like it does not mean I'm criticising you or have low self-esteem. 

Got to have some pleasure in life, that's all. 

These are sick people, not bad. Have the same compassion as you would for a person with a known disease. 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

These are sick people, not bad. Have the same compassion as you would for a person with a known disease. 

Your comments are correct, except that I have less sympathy with someone who knowingly makes themselves sick by taking illegal drugs.

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

These are sick people, not bad. Have the same compassion as you would for a person with a known disease. 

I've known a few alcoholics and recognise that it is a disease and not self-indulgence, not knowingly had any contact with those others mentioned. 

Look, I'll be the first to say I'm biased when a kid is mentioned and my first thoughts were that he should be left without a cock. He should have his day in court. However, if the accused's admission wasn't coerced and he gave it of his own volition, then there really isn't much to say other than he is at the mercy of the court. Doing something as heinous as sexual assault of an adult is horrific enough. But when children are involved, I don't think anyone's safe in prison. No matter in what country. 

35 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Your comments are correct, except that I have less sympathy with someone who knowingly makes themselves sick by taking illegal drugs.

I think its funny how you think that drugs makes people sick. Its just an excuse even when high (its not too much different from being drunk) most people don't go out raping woman. Besides alcohol or drugs should never be an excuse because people take it without being forced. Its a choice so if anything it should add to the punishment.

 

Many people use it as an excuse like I would never have done it if sober not high.. especially with crimes like this. 

 

Too bad this scumbag is still sucking oxygen. Cut off his Johnson and feed it to him. In a US prison, he has a very short survival rate.

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According to Royal Thai Immigration, the suspect had entered Thailand back in January and applied for a long-term visa in Samui. 

However now living in Bangkok and if he really is only 37 then what visa could that have been - Elite................?

1 minute ago, topt said:

then what visa could that have been - Elite................?

Or "volunteer visa" more likely.

19 hours ago, EricTh said:

Did he have any criminal records before coming to Thailand? I think Thailand should start vetting dangerous criminals from now on.

If he has a visa other than tourist, I am pretty sure a criminal history was submitted in visa application process. I had to.

It's been 24 hours now. Has he been released on bail yet? That surely is his Thai human right along with all the Thai's that are bailed for even more serious crimes.

What news of the badly beaten and raped Thai masseuse? is she still in hospital? An update on her condition is warranted.

19 hours ago, EricTh said:

Did he have any criminal records before coming to Thailand? I think Thailand should start vetting dangerous criminals from now on.

Your comment reminds me of Thai Immigration efforts to do just that about 5 years ago. It lasted one year and it had me collapsing in laughter at the amateurish nature of their efforts. They had me type my name into my home country's police force search box and if nothing came up then it was all good. 

 

Their effort reflects a desire to do what you suggest. And the laughable failure reflects a brute reality: for most countries, criminal convictions are highly sensitive information which will not be revealed to random requesters. Typing even a serial killers name in many countries' websites will come back blank. The USA might be the giant exception. 

 

The Thai government would have to put together multiple treaty arrangements to do this with lots of qualifiers and reassurances. The West is understandably reluctant to provide such access to a backward country. 

 

Of course, both the UK and USA have permanent police representation in Bangkok and Pattaya to chase down severe crimes by their own citizens. The fashion has been to regard certain crimes as so heinous that even if committed outside the country they can be prosecuted by their country of citizenship. 

18 hours ago, smedly said:

are you suggesting that this massage shop might have been a front and was offering something more sinister or the mentioned 12yo was the womans daughter and the woman had a current or past relationship with this American

 

I have to admit the original report on here made no sense to me, I just put it down to poor reporting

 

I think you are right - there is a lot of stuff missing from this story

 

Either way glad they caught this scumbag before he butchered or abused anyone else, very likely not his first rodeo 

Seeing that he is American maybe he thinks he can get away with it over here. As many crims are released from jail in the states. When are they going to learn that all massage girls are not working girls.

11 hours ago, smedly said:

don't hold your breath or expect anything resembling the truth - this guy I have no doubt is very guilty of something - but ...............................................we will never know what really went on here IMO, I will reach my own conclusions when I hear about 12 year kids and attempted rape, this story is more than the lady in the massage shop and nobody wants to tell it, we might find out more if his full name is released IMO

Agreed

19 hours ago, ezzra said:

Wouldn't wanna be in his shoes right now for all the tea in China, and if his guilty, than god may have mercy on his soul coz the Thai people won't...

Hope you are right!

It is urgent to remind those who bark on this site that until he is convicted, he is considered innocent. Many amateurs of expeditive justice here.

 

 

The inmates inside of Bang Kwang Central Prison, will soon sort that "Nonce Case" out....

If found guilty of course.... 

 

Why pixel the pic ?  This is the real man with face go for thirty years in prison in Thailand well deserved

 

56 minutes ago, 10baht said:

If he has a visa other than tourist, I am pretty sure a criminal history was submitted in visa application process. I had to.

In your case was the application for a non-OA visa back in your home country? As far as I am aware that is the only non-immigrant visa type for which a criminal records check is specifically required. And at age 37 the American referred to in the OP would, of course, have been far too young for a non-OA visa in any event. 

The good news he is off the streets as no doubt would do the same again 

Will have plenty of time in Prison to reflect on his actions 

1 minute ago, shackleton said:

The good news he is off the streets as no doubt would do the same again 

Will have plenty of time in Prison to reflect on his actions 

If he is not in solitary confinement, he might not have too long to reflect.