Confusion reigns as Thai PM announces end of quarantine and alcohol restart "spoiler"

[JCP108]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Good job by Khun Prayut Chan O Cha ......  PM of Thailand ......  and likely for another 7+ years or more.

Lets hope .............. 

Now I get it. Steven100 really is a spoof account! Good job, Steven100! You have been very convincing.

[JustAnotherHun]

51 minutes ago, NightSky said:

Thailand plans to end Covid quarantine requirements for fully vaccinated travellers from at least 10 low-risk nations from 1 November, officials say.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58838189

According to German media it's already decided. 

[Golden Triangle]

2 hours ago, candide said:

Lol! The mere idea of having cititizen voting for or against Prayut is complete science fiction! Prayut doesn't need to be elected in order to remain PM. He can play again the "unelected PM" card, thanks to the Senate which members have been appointed by him.

I think the constitutional court will kick that idea into touch, trouble is then the replacement, unless they really do have free & fair elections 55555

[gejohesch]

13 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

That just about sums up Prayut's verbal garbage.

(this not addressed to you personally)

 

I object to the statement "About as cloudy as a Pernod and water." A milky-cloudy glass of Pernod + water + ice cubes is a dxxn nice thing, especially when sitting in the shade in a sunny afternoon!

[natway09]

Let's see what actually does happen,

but I think he may have lost it

[bbbbooboo]

19 hours ago, fangless said:

For most holidaymakers it is a case of If they can drink they might come, if they cannot drink they will not come!

That’s for certain

[Andycoops]

The most incoherent and miserable man in Thailand, someone should sew his lips together.

[Skeptic7]

LOC...Land of Confusion. Same as it ever was. 

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory posts have been removed.

 

A post using profane language has been removed.

 

Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed.

 

[Almer]

22 hours ago, WhatsNext said:

So wait a minute : If the vax works then why do we need tests, and if it doesn't work then why do we need a vax. But that's logical thinking which is in very short supply everywhere on the world in the last 20 months. 

 

Other than that : COE ?, Silly C19 insurance ? 21 kilo of paperwork still required ? Plus think about it ; 2x 100 Euro for the pcr, 250 euro for the insurance, makes for a total of 450 Euro in expenses which is about the cost of the flight or a week in Spain. Number of tourists predicted to come : Less than 1% of pre covid numbers.

 

The virus is on it's way out with or without the jab, just do like Mexico and a few others, live with it, open the borders and enjoy life.

The vax helps to stop you getting really sick, but dosnt stop you catching and spreading the virus, possibly to somebody who will get really sick.

[jacko45k]

17 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

What if you are coming from the UK for example but do not have a UK passport? Lets say its Indonesian, you are coming from the approved list of 10 countries but not on the approved passport list? So even though you have had the double jab and are coming from the UK can you still avoid quarantine?

A little early for what-ifs at the moment, details to be resolved. Approved passport list, if that is what will be implemented, is quite clear. You highlight an important detail.... 

[Danderman123]

41 minutes ago, Almer said:

The vax helps to stop you getting really sick, but dosnt stop you catching and spreading the virus, possibly to somebody who will get really sick.

To be clear, the vaccine makes you up to 10 times less likely to be infected. If you aren't infected, you can't spread the virus. 

[Chongalulu]

22 hours ago, internationalism said:

there is no way anywhere in the world now that your travel won't come to abrupt stop and serious problems.

Anybody can get infected in the airport, on the plane. 

Getting insurance sorts out financial burden. Lost time, up to 14 days, has to be calculated. 

You appear to be under the misapprehension that being asymptomatic and positive will trigger your insurance to pay for expensive hospitel. Read the small print- it covers only essential medical needs,not effectively your quarantine.

[StayinThailand2much]

12 hours ago, BTB1977 said:

He is just dangling a carrot to sucker tourists to make plans and come. Than pull the rug out from under them and say thanks for coming,  but no fun for you . Enjoy your noodles and som tum 5555

Or cancel last minute, and... "Sorry, no refunds for your hotel and tour bookings..."

[StayinThailand2much]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

To be clear, the vaccine makes you up to 10 times less likely to be infected. If you aren't infected, you can't spread the virus. 

That's true for the first few weeks after double-vaccination. However, your protection shrinks to half or less after only half a year.

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

That's true for the first few weeks after double-vaccination. However, your protection shrinks to half or less after only half a year.

That statement is false for most vaccines.
 

More to the point, can you give us a link that backs up your statement, or is that just something you heard? If it’s just something you heard, what motivates you to post random misinformation here?

 

Vaccines save lives. Trying to convince people not to get vaccinated threatens their lives. Why would you do that?

[Danderman123]

14 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Mexico didn't "deal" with anything. I'm not sure where it stands now but Mexico was recently the most obese country in the world. That's the reason they're having  a bad time with COVID.

You seem unfamiliar with the concept of excess mortality.

 

The number of deaths in Mexico has skyrocketed as Mexico failed to deal with the epidemic.

[Kadilo]

39 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

To be clear, the vaccine makes you up to 10 times less likely to be infected. If you aren't infected, you can't spread the virus. 

Are you going to provide the links for your posts too, or do you just ask others for their posts?

[2009]

12 hours ago, BTB1977 said:

He is just dangling a carrot to sucker tourists to make plans and come. Than pull the rug out from under them and say thanks for coming,  but no fun for you . Enjoy your noodles and som tum 5555

That would be hilarious.

[Danderman123]

28 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Are you going to provide the links for your posts too, or do you just ask others for their posts?

Been posted here 1,000 times. 

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-moderna-covid-19-mrna-1273-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgYuhp6_G8wIVyH4rCh0Lfgl5EAAYASAAEgJF4_D_BwE

[Kadilo]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Been posted here 1,000 times. 

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-moderna-covid-19-mrna-1273-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgYuhp6_G8wIVyH4rCh0Lfgl5EAAYASAAEgJF4_D_BwE

That maybe so, but still worth doing what you are asking others to do otherwise it makes you look slightly hypocritical. 

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

That maybe so, but still worth doing what you are asking others to do otherwise it makes you look slightly hypocritical. 

The poster was claiming ineffectiveness of vaccines, contrary to established science. I asked them to prove their assertion. 

 

Thank you for your concern, but if someone here attacks life saving vaccines, I am not too concerned about having to prove established science. 

 

The fact that the poster has no response speaks volumes. 

[cheapcanuck]

They say ten countries but only mentioned about 5. What is the full list of the 10 countries?

[Bkk Brian]

57 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You seem unfamiliar with the concept of excess mortality.

 

The number of deaths in Mexico has skyrocketed as Mexico failed to deal with the epidemic.

If he thinks the massive death rate in Mexico is just down to obesity then he is unfamiliar with any concept of covid measures and the lack of in that country

[tgw]

30 minutes ago, cheapcanuck said:

They say ten countries but only mentioned about 5. What is the full list of the 10 countries?

judging by what the 5 first countries are, I would guess the other countries are:

South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Switzerland, France, Italy, Canada, Australia, and maybe Sweden.

That's 5.

Well, the prime minister says it's 5 under the emergency decree.

 

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Gen Prayut said in a nationally televised broadcast that fully vaccinated tourists from at least 10 low-risk countries would be allowed to enter Thailand by air with no quarantine requirements.

 

[RocketDog]

On 10/12/2021 at 8:47 AM, internationalism said:

bad, as if your test turned positive in departure city. Won't allowed to board, self-isolation. 

That's why insurance is for. 

If asymptomatic it is hospital or rather hospitel (closed hotel with medical personel and equipment). I don't think there would be much space in hospitals for the next half year.

That's the risk everybody is aware of and should be prepared for.

That's why getting insurance for 1 year would allow multiple trips and flexibility in travelling, without paying high premium each time and waiting 14 days delay to activate policy

An alternative if travelers are also avid gamblers and well-heeled. Not worth the risk of time and money for most I suspect. Certainly not how I would risk my precious few weeks of annual vacation if I was still working.

[wombat]

leading the charge...

[wombat]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

If he thinks the massive death rate in Mexico is just down to obesity then he is unfamiliar with any concept of covid measures and the lack of in that country

South Park called it correctly 

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, wombat said:

South Park called it correctly 

Here is someone unfamiliar with the concepts of excess mortality and Long Covid. 

 

[pedro01]

On 10/12/2021 at 9:16 AM, WhatsNext said:

So wait a minute : If the vax works then why do we need tests, and if it doesn't work then why do we need a vax. But that's logical thinking which is in very short supply everywhere on the world in the last 20 months. 

 

Other than that : COE ?, Silly C19 insurance ? 21 kilo of paperwork still required ? Plus think about it ; 2x 100 Euro for the pcr, 250 euro for the insurance, makes for a total of 450 Euro in expenses which is about the cost of the flight or a week in Spain. Number of tourists predicted to come : Less than 1% of pre covid numbers.

 

The virus is on it's way out with or without the jab, just do like Mexico and a few others, live with it, open the borders and enjoy life.

And dont forget the nonsense about the unvaccinated being a risk to the vaccinated.