43 minutes ago, biggles45 said:

I have trouble understanding how you can test negative for CV, board a plane for an 8 hour flight and then be positive when tested in Thailand. Are the tests that unreliable? This is a deal breaker for me. 

You clearly make a good point here.  Perhaps there are two issues outstanding; 1) Thailand wants to retest the original PCR to make sure the visitor is actually COVID negative and 2) you may catch COVID on the flight.  If they are concerned about catching COVID on the flight then I believe Smedley is correct and that the test should be performed 3 to 5 days after landing.  But in the end I feel that the risks of a visitor bringing COVID into Thailand after being vaccinated and tested are far less than the risks of getting COVID here after arrival.  So I believe the government should open up and worry more about opening the school system safely then bringing in tourists for revenue.  But this is just my opinion.

4 hours ago, CARLO BALDASSARRE said:

That's just bad luck an you will quarantine mate ...

Where would they send you to do the quarantine if you are tested negative? And where would they put you if you are positive without symptoms? Just wondering!!

2 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Feel free to lock yourself away and don't go anywhere. Me, I want to get on with living life again and therefore a PCR test on arrival is fine with me ????

UK citizens are happily getting on with their lives.

Going to other places than Thailand, with hastle free entry requirements, including the threat of incarceration being included in the price of your ticket.

It's a big world out there. You should try it.

I have been waiting to get to Hong Kong. There is a 21 day quarantine period for arrivals from Thailand. Nobody is going to come from Hong Kong  as they won't be able to return to their HK homes without quarantine in HK. Opening up Thailands air corridors won't work if the other end is effectively locked.

4 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Number of vaccinations, or% of popularion? What is the minimum? 

Criteria is based on total number of non-Karens even if there is a risk of Karens refusing to be vaccinated.

 

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Exactly! Foreign people are not the threat against Thailands Covid-19 recovery. Almost every country they are thinking of letting in has a higher percentage of vaccinated population. The problem is with the domestic situation i the country, that officials seems to be extremely uncapable of dealing with. On the other hand, that´s what happens when you only focus on Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket and Pattaya. Morons! The rest of the country have people that needs to be vaccinated too.

because you can catch and spread covid while being fully vaccinated, and you can end up in ICU, just look at Singapore, then I think you better have a good covid insurance policy, then will the hospitals cope,  if it goes belly up/ wait and see, watchful waiting I think its called.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Andorra, Australia, Bahrain, Czech Republic, Dominica, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macao, Malta, Moldova, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Qatar, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Taiwan, Uruguay, Barbados, China and Croatia

Wonder how many visitors they would have had from the 20 additional countries in the past decade...

9 minutes ago, rbkk said:

I have been waiting to get to Hong Kong. There is a 21 day quarantine period for arrivals from Thailand. Nobody is going to come from Hong Kong  as they won't be able to return to their HK homes without quarantine in HK. Opening up Thailands air corridors won't work if the other end is effectively locked.

So if you travel to LOS with a negative rt-pcr ,and a double jabba certificate, then when you leave you suddenly get a positive rt-pcr you  might not be allowed on a plane and in the case of NZ you would  have to go into MIQ, thats if you can get a booking as MIQ is booked out for months at present.

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Unfortunately the vast majority can wait a lot longer.

They will just go elsewhere.

- Fail test on departure. Holiday kaput.

- Fail test on arrival. Holiday kaput.

 

Fail. Fail.

 

 

And he is right. The longer they wait, the more Thailand will be forgotten. It is amazing how these guys go on and on and on about what they are intending to do, and never, ever talk about the sacrifices they are willing to make, to attract these new businesses, investors, tourists and wealthy ex-pats. A true COTKU (Thailand is the center of the known universe) mentality, and it is so far from reality, it boggles the mind. Millions of jobs have been lost. What is being proposed to help those families get back on their feet?
 
The one principal here, that they have still not come to grips with, is that Thailand needs the world, 50 to 100x more than the world needs Thailand. One must always remember, there were countless issues plaguing the industry, years before Covid, and NONE of them were ever addressed by the lathargic ones. And there were countless other countries with alot of appeal, who were and are trying much harder. 

Thailand continues to be tone deaf, on the wrong side of history, and feeble, in its minor attempts to progress into this century. Anything this administration does is typically dumb, and unplanned. And the effects, ramifications and future are never considered. To call this heavy handed would be a gross understatement.

 

 

I used my tarot cards, my 250 year old Romanian crystal ball, and tea leaves last night. I asked about the future of the Thai economy. I did not even try to take into account the near total closure of the tourism industry, which likely employs 5 million people or so, and used to account for 20% of the economy, or 3 trillion baht. I also did not consider the near shutdown of the entire airline industry and the airports. Same applies for taxis, bus services, mini vans companies, ferry operators, etc. And I also disregarded the slowdown in exports, and the massive withdrawal of foreign capital from Thailand. In addition, I did not consider the real estate sector. The developers, and the lack of buyers and renters, both commercial and residential. And how about all the residual income from foreigner "Adopting Thai women and their families"? Building 2-4 million baht hours, buying cars and trucks. Just one more thing we are given no credit for. 

What did I come up with? The tea leaves indicated that foreigners have lost confidence in this administration, the finance ministry, the justice system, the fight against corruption, the ability for the nation to move forward, and the currency. 

The crystal ball said it would be a four to seven year recovery, with real unemployment remaining between 26 and 42% for the next three years, and potentially going down to 19% within five to six years. It also said the actual support base for the leaders had fallen to between 1 and 2%. Mostly army members. 

And the tarot cards. My oh my, those tarot cards. They said the economy would contract by 16% in 2021, and that was over 2019. They said 2022 might improve to a contraction of only 9%, vs. 2019. My tarot cards not read year on year, as they know how useless that info is, during a pandemic. They also said condo prices would drop by an average of 44% nationwide, over the next five years, and it would take at least that long for the economy to recover. When I asked how long the recovery would take, the five of pentacles came up. 

The Five of Pentacles is a card of financial loss and poverty. You have hit hard times, especially when it comes to your work, career, finances, and material possessions. You may have recently lost your job, your home, or your financial security. You no longer feel safe because it has all been stripped away from you in one blow. Your ego may also be bruised, especially since success often correlates to financial wealth; losing either can be a humbling blow to your self-esteem and sense of self-worth. The upside is that this is a Minor Arcana card with temporary effects (rather than a Major Arcana card which has a longer-term impact). This, too, shall pass.

5 hours ago, 2long said:

Sweden?

Came last month from Sweden, had to Sandbox.

For ordinary tourists it doesn't matter as long as the Swedish goverment recommends against travel to Thailand your ordinary travel insurance is void.

Kinda surprised Japan isn't on the holy list. We are having fewer than 1000 cases a day, hitting 70% vaccination.   

Whats wrong with Belgium?? They dont even have to wear masks and vaccination rate is 90%??? Politics again????

7 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Unfortunately the vast majority can wait a lot longer.

They will just go elsewhere.

- Fail test on departure. Holiday kaput.

- Fail test on arrival. Holiday kaput.

 

Fail. Fail.

Weird thinking you fail a test imo. It means you have covid and therefore shouldn't be freely roaming around 

 

Having said that, instead of 14 days minimum in hospital they should do another PCR test to see if its a false positive and let you out if so. Even if you tested every 3 days and then let you out when negative would be much better than 14 days locked away

Funny how people are thinking this is an official country list. It is a list of countries made by the media using assumptions

16 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Kinda surprised Japan isn't on the holy list. We are having fewer than 1000 cases a day, hitting 70% vaccination.   

Give up your claim to the Senkaku Islands and you can come.

5 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said:

How?

You are from Australia aren't you?

you aren't even allowed to leave your own country

Jumping the gun…they can’t even leave their own state! 
Melbourne has a record 2000 cases today and ran by a bloke who loves control and won’t let go. Western Australia is another story..pfft…they want to leave Australia lol.

5 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Speak for yourself as I'll be there asap if all I need is PCR test on departure and arrival 

But thats not all you need! You will need to spend one night in an ASQ hotel, so quarantine, you will also need covid insurance! Whether you still need a COE is not clear!

Most airlines require a pcr test to fly. But the pcr test on arrival seems over the top?

Should be the tourists worrying about getting infected. Tourists fully vaccinated you can't get any better than that, Thailand not even half the population vaccinated, who's at risk here.

6 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

They  still wont come with that <deleted>

Gotta make some money somewhere.

6 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Im speaking for the majority I reckon

A bold statement.

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

Old information, this regulation now well relaxed.

 

Plus when the regulation was in place there were many reasons to get an exemption and leave. 

Depends on who you are!

he could allow every country in the world to come but who is going to go thru all the c#ap we have to just to get here plus all the costs    there are still a lot of warm and cheaper places people can go to with no hoops to jump thru.. same old same old

But the Daily News report is from Tuesday.

50 minutes ago, flyfrog said:

Whats wrong with Belgium?? They dont even have to wear masks and vaccination rate is 90%??? Politics again????

best beer  chocolate and chips in the world nothing wrong with Belgium...

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As for latest covid 19 situation updates France has the exact same % of vaccinated people than UK  and much less rates of daily contaminations at the moment. So why doesn't France qualify if the UK does again?