Thailand Pass to Replace the COE, what about the Prepaid PCR Tests ?

[XtraFly]

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https://asq.in.th/thailand-pass

 

Pending Final Approval

The MFA / Ministry of Foreign Affairs has recently announced that the Certificate of Entry (COE) will be replaced with the "Thailand Pass" system starting November 1st, 2021.

The "Thailand Pass" online registration system will exist on https://thailandpass.go.th, and should be accessible by November 1st, 2021.

Recent News Articles around "Thailand Pass"

The new Thailand Pass system will be for everyone except for those who will be traveling as part of group arrivals (by sea), and Alternative Hospital Quarantine (AHQ) stays will. They will have to use the existing COE system until otherwise specified.

 

 

Required Information for Thailand Pass

• Passport Information
• Vaccination Certificate
• Covid-19 Health Insurance Coverage
• SHA+/AQ Hotel Booking
•  

It appears that prepaid COVID-19 PCR tests may no longer be required (recently mentioned in the Phuket Sandbox reduced requirements).

At the moment it is very hard to draw any final conclusions on the ease of the process, and who exactly will be able to enter "quarantine free". The chart released by the MFA did not seem to cover this newly announced entry method.

 

 

[RichardColeman]

I'd also like to know if the vaccine certificate removes the need for say my UK PCR test before flying ? That they accept a 1 day hotel booking, where a pcr test would be done if not at the hotel - airport ? How where, and how you get to the AQ hotel to isolate. Is it still 30 days visa on arrival ? 

 

Has to be some things missing here , as I cannot see a need for a hotel if there are no PCR tests anywhere before release into the public.

 

Best we all wait until 1st nov see how the nonsense pans out

Edited October 16, 2021 by RichardColeman

[Puccini]

10 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Is it still 30 days visa on arrival ? 

The Visa on arrival gives permission to stay for 15 days and it is not available to UK nationals.

[gk10012001]

21 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I'd also like to know if the vaccine certificate removes the need for say my UK PCR test before flying ? That they accept a 1 day hotel booking, where a pcr test would be done if not at the hotel - airport ? How where, and how you get to the AQ hotel to isolate. Is it still 30 days visa on arrival ? 

 

Has to be some things missing here , as I cannot see a need for a hotel if there are no PCR tests anywhere before release into the public.

 

Best we all wait until 1st nov see how the nonsense pans out

I am pretty sure any airline you fly on will require the negative PCR test within 3 days prior to boarding. As for Thailand... TBD

[nkg]

1 hour ago, gk10012001 said:

I am pretty sure any airline you fly on will require the negative PCR test within 3 days prior to boarding. As for Thailand... TBD

 

Yes, Singapore want a negative PCR within 48 hours if you're transiting through there.

[XtraFly]

3 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Well that chart looks simple to understand........(sigh)

I knew you gonna comment when I was posting haha. I can’t wait till Oct 31st to see the updates and how it’s gonna take effect. Most likely will apply as soon as the website is up.

[ezzra]

For a country that yearn and depend on tourism they sure know how to complicate and make coming to Thailand a chore and headache....

[mtls2005]

Looks like a lot of software development and testing will be required.

 

Things always look simple on a ppt.

 

They mention both Vaccination Certificate and Health Certificate (under "Data Filing"). My guess now would be that the latter is a PCR test result.

 

That TM.6 - Immigration "API Gateway" would scare me a bit. Would prefer a paper Departure Card thank you.

 

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by mtls2005

[HappyGoLuckyLife]

5 hours ago, XtraFly said:

• Covid-19 Health Insurance Coverage
• SHA+/AQ Hotel Booking

Looks like we'll be waiting. Don't really mind the insurance, but if we're vaccinated, would prefer to simply go to our destination.

[blackcab]

Moved to the Covid 19 forum.

[HampiK]

4 hours ago, Puccini said:

The Visa on arrival gives permission to stay for 15 days and it is not available to UK nationals.

I think he means the Visa Except 30 days (45 days before).

Many use the wording Visa on arrival, as you become a stamp on arrival.
 

[tomyami]

was thinking about going nov but with booze ban, blue zone test test on arrival no thx am staying in canaries they dont even talk about covid here.

I was in swampi in march travellers herded around like anamals disgusting worst welcome ever

[Kwasaki]

Have one friend from UK in September enter Thailand in sandbox thingy Phuket, stayed for 2 weeks, 3 covid tests and was allowed to leave to go home Sukhothai.

Have another from UK came October and only has to stay 1 week Phuket and then is due home in Sukhothai, he did lose some prepaid money out of choice.

Things changing all the time I guess.

My family have booked flights for February 2022 but don't know what they will be required to do if anything at the moment.

 

[mtls2005]

52 minutes ago, HappyGoLuckyLife said:

Looks like we'll be waiting. Don't really mind the insurance, but if we're vaccinated, would prefer to simply go to our destination.

 

I read that as for "AQ" only. So those who do not qualify for "Sandbox" (vaxxed) and require a 7/10 day quarantine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by mtls2005

[samtam]

It's all still pending, so I wouldn't bother getting too excited about it, and wait until it's operational, and it has crashed 2 or 3 times, until it's abandoned.

[tomyami]

A pcr test in thailand is a volient act and after a longhaul flight it wont be plesant I DID IT IN MARCH unvaxed, now i am vaxed better than thais who are if at all, they can fcku off.

Will go back when they are more repectful and welcoming like when i arrive in the canaries.

The 1 day aql, voilent PCR test, 500b charge and a 1500b taxis to pattaya after been treated like an anamal is less than degrading i implor people dont do it, halalulia

And they want quality LOL

[treetops]

12 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

That TM.6 - Immigration "API Gateway" would scare me a bit. Would prefer a paper Departure Card thank you.

One of the MFA slides at the briefing said you "can" do this, not that you "must".  I would probably opt out given the history.

[thailand49]

Based on the past history of these leaders I'm putting my money come Nov 1st not much will change for getting back into Thailand. The name has changed Thailand Pass based on their history I will certainly PASS! 

 

 

[gk10012001]

Nirvana  "extinguishing of desire".    I am going to lower my expectations and just wait until after New Year and see how things are then.  Tentative plan is work until June.  Lock up and simplify things in the USA, medicare, long term housemate in my modest little Florida retirement home,  then 6 months in Thailand with an O long stay visa due to retirement (I will be 65), visa prior to arrival

[fusion58]

What about those of us who have already applied for and/or received COEs and whose flights arrive after November 1st?

 

Will we be able to use the already-issued CEO for entry, or will we have to start over from scratch and apply for a "Thailand Pass?"

[bradiston]

On 10/17/2021 at 4:22 AM, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Well that chart looks simple to understand........(sigh)

Actually it's a board game similar to Jumanji. Roll the dice and heaven knows where you'll end up!

[tomacht8]

3 hours ago, fusion58 said:

What about those of us who have already applied for and/or received COEs and whose flights arrive after November 1st?

 

Will we be able to use the already-issued CEO for entry, or will we have to start over from scratch and apply for a "Thailand Pass?"

As you can read on the Thailand pass page, it is recommended to enter the entry data 7 days in advance. The Foreign Ministry itself also needs 3 days to process. The software should be online on November 1st. This means that quarantine-free entry will not be technically possible until November 7th. All those who want to enter between November 1-7 must still use the old COE system!


https://asq.in.th/thailand-pass


When should you apply for Thailand Pass?

You should apply for the Thailand Pass 7 days before your arrival.

How long does Thailand Pass approval take?

The MFA has mentioned that it will take 1-3 days for approval.

[fusion58]

11 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

As you can read on the Thailand pass page, it is recommended to enter the entry data 7 days in advance. The Foreign Ministry itself also needs 3 days to process. The software should be online on November 1st. This means that quarantine-free entry will not be technically possible until November 7th. All those who want to enter between November 1-7 must still use the old COE system!


https://asq.in.th/thailand-pass


When should you apply for Thailand Pass?

You should apply for the Thailand Pass 7 days before your arrival.

How long does Thailand Pass approval take?

The MFA has mentioned that it will take 1-3 days for approval.

Thanks, but this doesn't really address my question.

 

If my arrival date is 12 November, and if I have already been issued a COE, then can I still use that COE to enter, or do I still need to apply for  Thailand Pass?

[tomacht8]

1 hour ago, fusion58 said:

Thanks, but this doesn't really address my question.

 

If my arrival date is 12 November, and if I have already been issued a COE, then can I still use that COE to enter, or do I still need to apply for  Thailand Pass?

We must wait for clear announcements. 12. November you have enough time. In the worst case, you will have to re-enter all the paperwork into the Thai Pass application. But you would save 1 PCR test and possibly not must book a certain hotel for the whole time.

[fusion58]

42 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

We must wait for clear announcements. 12. November you have enough time. In the worst case, you will have to re-enter all the paperwork into the Thai Pass application. But you would save 1 PCR test and possibly not must book a certain hotel for the whole time.

That's what I'm afraid of.

 

I will have to trust that the new website is actually functional and that my application can be approved prior to my departure date. No way to predict when the site will be up and running and how long the approval process will take. Hopefully, the new website isn't going to be developed by the same geniuses who created the 90 Day Reporting site.

[Emeraldisle]

I applied for Certificate of Entry and was told by Thai Embassy London that I need to book SHA hotel for $500.  Since when does a hotel in Phuket cost $500 for seven nights.

CoE is a nightmare to complete

[bolt]

6 hours ago, Emeraldisle said:

I applied for Certificate of Entry and was told by Thai Embassy London that I need to book SHA hotel for $500.  Since when does a hotel in Phuket cost $500 for seven nights.

CoE is a nightmare to complete

your payment needs to be in FULL OR to the value of $500, its badly written, so don't worry

 

when are you expecting to arrive

what have you paid for already ????

Edited October 19, 2021 by bolt

[internationalism]

On 10/18/2021 at 12:58 PM, tomacht8 said:

As you can read on the Thailand pass page, it is recommended to enter the entry data 7 days in advance. The Foreign Ministry itself also needs 3 days to process. The software should be online on November 1st. This means that quarantine-free entry will not be technically possible until November 7th. All those who want to enter between November 1-7 must still use the old COE system!


https://asq.in.th/thailand-pass


When should you apply for Thailand Pass?

You should apply for the Thailand Pass 7 days before your arrival.

How long does Thailand Pass approval take?

The MFA has mentioned that it will take 1-3 days for approval.

it's by 1st november not on the 1st.

May be as early as this week so allow entry from the 1st.

It's processed up to 3 days, but might be one day or within hours (as was case with coe which was much more complicated).

They are giving an advice not to apply over 7 days as applications will be processed promptly. That is what other countries are requiring - just a few days are good enough.

 

[tomacht8]

14 minutes ago, internationalism said:

it's by 1st november not on the 1st.

May be as early as this week so allow entry from the 1st.

It's processed up to 3 days, but might be one day or within hours (as was case with coe which was much more complicated).

They are giving an advice not to apply over 7 days as applications will be processed promptly. That is what other countries are requiring - just a few days are good enough.

 

You interpret this announcement differently. Let's see when the time comes and there is clarity.

[bolt]

The list of Approved (5-10-38??) Low Risk countries will be announced Tomorrow (Wednesday 20^th )

  

As I have said on other threads, this is going the same way as the changes which happened in April and July, both sets of changes were changed after the announced date.

For example, the Phuket sandbox was 1^st July, but the COE system wasn’t working until the 30^th June, some travelers managed to board aircraft without having an approved COE, they managed to land and then download the approved COE.

 

So this 1^st November won’t be for people arriving on the 1^st, I’m guessing by 3^rd or 4^th it will be working but if your travelling before those dates be very careful with your money, delay if possible. 

I’ve completed 3 trips to Thailand during last 12 months 2 ASQ and 1 Sandbox, and I won’t pay until 48-72hours before departure.

My 3 COE have been issued within 48 hours, The Embassy has been excellent it’s the Bangkok side which is flip flopping

Edited October 19, 2021 by bolt