go-go bars gone?

[Eibot]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I have no idea why you think that, but IMO you are 100% wrong. No gogos in Lamphun.

 

Lol, do you know how many can be found just by driving highway 1 up to Lamphun..

Sure the concentration is bigger in tourist area, but bars + short time resorts are found everywhere. 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Eibot
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[Eibot]

3 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

I know they are. Just saying they're not go-go bars. 

Ok, what's the difference then?

[Kinnock]

3 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Definitely not. You can call it all you want, but a place where you can take a girl home against a certain fee is a go-go bar, no matter if they  offer karaoke, pool, food or just a drink with company. 

 

These places all found all over Thailand, even in very remote places. 

You are talking about all bars that happen to have available girls in them - but go-go bars are a specific sub-set.  Stage, chrome poles, lively music, disco lights, bikinis with numbered badges.  

 

The origin of the go-go bar was the Vietnam War era, US troops in Pattaya and Bangkok on R&R.

 

That type of bar is a sun-set industry.  Yes, bars with girls will be around forever, but I didn't think that was the subject of this thread?

[Eibot]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Dunno where you get your information from, but IMO a gogo bar is specifically dancers on a stage with a pole to shuffle around.

IMO it's being able to take a girl home with a bar fee. 

[Eibot]

Just now, Kinnock said:

You are talking about all bars that happen to have available girls in them - but go-go bars are a specific sub-set.  Stage, chrome poles, lively music, disco lights, bikinis with numbered badges.  

 

The origin of the go-go bar was the Vietnam War era, US troops in Pattaya and Bangkok on R&R.

 

That type of bar is a sun-set industry.  Yes, bars with girls will be around forever, but I didn't think that was the subject of this thread?

I doubt the OP was wondering if solely bars with a stage and dancing girl was going to be gone..

[KhaoNiaw]

Just now, Eibot said:

Ok, what's the difference then?

A couple of people have explained that to you already. A karaoke bar where girls just come and sit for drinks is definitely not a go-go bar. 

 

[Kinnock]

Just now, Eibot said:

I doubt the OP was wondering if solely bars with a stage and dancing girl was going to be gone..

Really? The clue was in the title.

[Eibot]

3 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Really? The clue was in the title.

The thermology for a go-go bar is a lot broader than a bar with dancing ladies..

[Kinnock]

6 minutes ago, Eibot said:

The thermology for a go-go bar is a lot broader than a bar with dancing ladies..

When you're in a hole. Stop digging.

[BangkokReady]

Governments are a lot like women.  You should watch what they do, not what they say.  They will say what they think makes them look good, makes people like them, or makes them popular (with whatever group they prefer), then do whatever they feel like.

 

You have to remember that, according to the government, prostitution is illegal and doesn't happen in Thailand.  You can also pretty much guarantee that while they say they want to ban alcohol, they will go home and drink alcohol after saying it.

 

It's pretty likely that they will say that that period is finished and that they are only targeting wealthy "high quality" tourists and Pattaya will become a family tourist destination.  Then in reality it will return to business as usual.

[spidermike007]

They will come back, but it is likely they will be further diminished, there will not be as many of them, and there will not be as much quality as before. In general the entire industry has been going downhill for the past 10 years. I remember what it was like 10 or 15 or 20 years ago. Before Covid, it was a pale shadow of it's former self. And that is the goal of the fake puritans. 

 

One potential upside is lower bar fines, lower prices, and alot more talent available freelance, which is likely the direction the industry is going, with the current climate of suppression, and sabotage. 

Edited October 17, 2021 by spidermike007

[BangkokReady]

Since we're talking about the term, let's take a look at where the name comes from:

 

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The origin of the term go-go dancing goes back to a 1949 British film Whisky Galore!. This film tells the story of the sinking of a ship loaded with whiskey. The French title of this film was Whisky à gogo !, "à gogo" being Parisian slang for "galore".[3] During the period that this film was showing in France, discotheques were just introduced as a new form of entertainment. Due to the success of the film and the snob appeal of drinking whiskey in France, a number of discotheques were given the name "Whiskey à Go-Go".

 

The first Whisky à Gogo nightclub opened in Paris in 1947,[4] drawing the "Whisky" part of its name from the whisky labels that lined its walls.[5] In 1953 it became the first discotheque.[6] The club was franchised, first in Chicago in 1958 and then in Los Angeles in 1964.[7] In May 1964 the Los Angeles club was featured in Life magazine and by 1965 clubs called Whisky à Go-Go (or Whiskey à Go-Go) had appeared in Milwaukee, Washington, San Francisco and Atlanta.[8] In the Los Angeles club a new style of dance was taking place, as go-go dancers in short, fringed skirts and high boots danced in a glass booth above the patrons. The first recorded occurrence of topless go-go dancing was in the Condor nightclub in San Francisco in 1964, and topless go-go dancing quickly became a part of the adult entertainment industry.[9]

 

During this time, several dance styles were becoming popular in which dancers danced separately from their partner or with no partner at all. American discos, often using the same name (“Whiskey A Go-Go”) as their French predecessor, introduced young women dancing alone in these new styles as a form of entertainment, creating the concept of a "go-go dancer".[10]

 

Fascinating, huh?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-go_bar

Edited October 17, 2021 by BangkokReady

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One potential upside is lower bar fines, lower prices, and more talent available freelance. 

Couldn't fewer girly bars mean that there was a shorter supply and thus an increase in prices?  Especially if freelance was not as popular.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, HeijoshinCool said:

.Oh, he likes it alright, along with all his cronies.....

He just doesn't want us to have any of it.

Why do you say that?  What's the problem with buying alcohol in Thailand, you can have as much as "he and his cronies" have, can't you?

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Bvor said:

far too many bars and gogo's in pattaya anyways. control their numbers and relocate them further away from city centre and beach area where "families and quality tourists" (?) can stay.

What area's can "families and quality tourists" (?) not stay.

[ramrod711]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

but a bar where a falang can chat with a pretty girl for pri e of a drink are a feature of a bygone age.

I have no reason to think you are wrong, but I sure hope you are.

[spidermike007]

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Couldn't fewer girly bars mean that there was a shorter supply and thus an increase in prices?  Especially if freelance was not as popular.

I really believe freelance is the future of Thailand. Online boards, and sites, stacked full of lovelies all over the place. Tinder will explode here, as will new forums, devoted to outsmarting the FPB (fake puritan brigade). Some go-go's will likely survive, but unless they bring down the prices, they will fade. The prices were bordering on stupidity anyway.

 

But, as many of us know, when demand is low here, some think the solution is to raise prices. Many of us have given up on trying to establish a pattern of logic, common sense, or reason here. At least our version of it!

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Bangkok's Soi 33 bars all died before COVID and Soi 22 was also fading.

There's still plenty of bars in 33 (and 22), they may be temporarily closed pending the re-opening but they sure did not "all die before Covid".

Edited October 17, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Bvor]

4 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

What area's can "families and quality tourists" (?) not stay.

up to them where they can stay -  i personally don't think that a soi 6 type area would suit wholesome family types but not up to me.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

The European and US expats are a reducing population due to their advanced age profile and the changing nature of foreign businesses - causing a move to ex-pats from China, Korea and Japan.

What does that mean?  Are you suggesting that Asian expats don't age or that there haven't been Asian expats here already for decades?   

 

The aging western expats don't age any quicker than the Asians and what makes you suggest that when the current western expats expire there'll be none of their countrymen to replace them as has happened for the last sixty or seventy years?

[smutcakes]

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There's still plenty of bars in 33 (and 22), they may be temporarily closed pending the re-opening but they sure did not "all die before Covid".

It was definitely dying for a good 10 years- after Office closed, Noble started develping condos, and the strip near the entrance where great places like Barfly were got built into a Novotel.

 

I run down there fairly often and although its not completely devoid, its pretty damn dead with a few <deleted>ty looking bars still open, mostly catering to Japanese. A shadow of its former self.

[ChipButty]

In the south of Phuket around Rawai the pussy bars were dying out before covid hit the place, the places that are busy are more like a Pub scene, sports bars with pool tables all the sports from around the world, I did see a video some guy made in Patong going down Bangla road some of the bars had a few people in there, 

[Kinnock]

49 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There's still plenty of bars in 33 (and 22), they may be temporarily closed pending the re-opening but they sure did not "all die before Covid".

All the 'Artist' bars closed well before COVID.  Mojo's and the The Office too.  

[mrfill]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

Since we're talking about the term, let's take a look at where the name comes from:

 

Fascinating, huh?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-go_bar

Err... just one thing....

If the first named 'Whisky a gogo' bar opened 'n 1947, how did they get the name from a film that wasn't released until 1949?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Eibot said:

You can call it all you want, but a place where you can take a girl home against a certain fee is a go-go bar

So the pool bars with bar-fineable girls are "go-go" bars?   No, they're definitely not.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

57 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There's still plenty of bars in 33 (and 22), they may be temporarily closed pending the re-opening but they sure did not "all die before Covid".

All the 'Artist' bars closed well before COVID.  Mojo's and the The Office too.  

That's not "all the bars in 33".  What you meant was, some bars in 33 closed before Covid.

[OneMoreFarang]

Gogo bars bring a lot of money for lots of people. Some official and some not so official. How will the police officers survive without all that extra cash?

Just keep in mind that prostitution is illegal in Thailand.  That should be a good indicator about the future of the nightlife.

 

How many bars will survive and make money is a different question. And landlords (or mafia groups) who think they can charge tremendous amounts of rent will probably find out that that there are limits.

[seedy]

4 hours ago, elgenon said:

The Thai people deserve a better government.

All people in all countries deserve a better gov't.

As has been since man started to join together - someone gotta be the Boss.

Problem being - Power Corrupts. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

[Liverpool Lou]

45 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

the strip near the entrance where great places like Barfly were got built into a Novotel.

That's incorrect, Barfly and the Novotel Lotus were there at the same time as each other, the Novotel Lotus was not built where Barfly was.  Barfly morphed into the Kangaroo Sports Bar on the same premises and closed a couple of years ago, many years after the Novotel was built in 1994.

[Liverpool Lou]

20 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just keep in mind that prostitution is illegal in Thailand.  That should be a good indicator about the future of the nightlife.

But prostitution doesn't go on in go-go bars. that happens off premises, doesn't it?