Considerations on a UK return.

[talahtnut]

Expected energy bills for average 3 bed semi £3600, heat or eat for many,

possible power outages. Likely economic downturn, and car fuel rationing.

A collapsing NHS, shortage of GPs. Increasing food and water prices.

Many are predicting another 'plague' to pop up for the winter.

Free speech banned, and one can be arrested for a Tweet that

someone finds offensive.

Imagine this image with the lights off, and come to the UK.   Its all government planned.

 

[pagallim]

[pagallim]

[worgeordie]

Just listening to report on dentists  in UK, waiting so long for

an appointment that people are pulling their own teeth  out ! . 

here I have 2 dentists in a 10 minute walk, just walk in ,job

done for a very reasonable fee.

My daughter has cats, an old one needs some teeth taken out,

500 + quid just for a cat.

 

It's going to be heat or eat this winter over there , here , should

I put a shirt on in the house ....

 

regards Worgeordie

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Just listening to report on dentists  in UK, waiting so long for

an appointment that people are pulling their own teeth  out ! . 

here I have 2 dentists in a 10 minute walk, just walk in ,job

done for a very reasonable fee.

My daughter has cats, an old one needs some teeth taken out,

500 + quid just for a cat.

 

It's going to be heat or eat this winter over there , here , should

I put a shirt on in the house ....

 

regards Worgeordie

 

 

Those are queues for NHS dentists in some areas .

There are private dentists in the UK that you can attend to at short notice  , same as Thailand .

  Logic : *One person in the UK decided to pull a tooth out = Everyone in the UK cannot visit a dentist "

[Denim]

Hmmm...this LGBTQIA+ is a bit confusing ?

 

Is there anyone left there that identifies with being straight ?

 

If there are a few ( a persecuted minority ) shouldn't they be demanding a prominent ' S '  at the front of the rest ?

[proton]

Council tax can be of outrageous amounts, also water. Three years ago looked at a flat, water 40 quid a month if you used it or not, 480 a year. Here 40 quid is all I pay for the whole year. Water in the SE areas like Devon are over 1000 pounds a year

[The Fugitive]

In U.K.at the moment, soon to return. Had a heavy nosebleed. Took 3 goes pinching for 15 minutes each time to stop. Didn’t want a repeat. Went to local walk-in centre. Told them I’d had similar decades ago and cauterisation proved most effective. Doctor told me he couldn’t cauterise now because I’d stopped the bleeding and he wouldn’t be able to tell where it was coming from. Told me to go away. Strange, because the doctor in 1971 didn’t have that problem. I suppose it was a success for the N.H.S. in saving money by getting rid of the patient without having to treat them. I’m sure my local E.N.T. doctor at his High Street clinic in Thailand will quickly and cheaply fix my leaky nostril?

[partington]

 

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

Free speech banned, and one can be arrested for a Tweet that

someone finds offensive.

Please post the proof of someone being arrested for a Tweet that "someone finds offensive" - otherwise I accuse you of making this up.

 

EDIT : ok I'm wrong I just found a case -my apologies. At least I admitted it!

Edited August 8, 2022 by partington

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

It's going to be heat or eat this winter over there , here , should

I put a shirt on in the house ....

 

Eat the cat. Saves 500 quid on vets fees and a nice curry. 

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Those are queues for NHS dentists in some areas .

There are private dentists in the UK that you can attend to at short notice  , same as Thailand .

  Logic : *One person in the UK decided to pull a tooth out = Everyone in the UK cannot visit a dentist "

Just checked the average cost of having a tooth extracted by private dentist 2000 pounds ,

compare that to Thailand , no wonder they are pulling their own.more than one for sure.

regards worgeordie

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

34 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

In U.K.at the moment, soon to return. Had a heavy nosebleed. Took 3 goes pinching for 15 minutes each time to stop. Didn’t want a repeat. Went to local walk-in centre. Told them I’d had similar decades ago and cauterisation proved most effective. Doctor told me he couldn’t cauterise now because I’d stopped the bleeding and he wouldn’t be able to tell where it was coming from. Told me to go away. Strange, because the doctor in 1971 didn’t have that problem. I suppose it was a success for the N.H.S. in saving money by getting rid of the patient without having to treat them. I’m sure my local E.N.T. doctor at his High Street clinic in Thailand will quickly and cheaply fix my leaky nostril?

You went to a Doctor because you had a nose bleed that had stopped bleeding ?

You expected the doctor to............................do what ?

[worgeordie]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Eat the cat. Saves 500 quid on vets fees and a nice curry. 

But she loves her cats and is a vegan , I think the vets over there

know people love their pets and charge what they like. 

regards worgeordie

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Free speech banned, and one can be arrested for a Tweet that

someone finds offensive.

There have always been restrictions on "free" speech and the same applies to the internet .

  "Free " speech doesn't allow you say offensive abuse things , you need to keep within the law .

   I do recall when a person was arrested for writing things online , a Child had died and the person was posing as that dead Child and sending the Mother messages online .

   Only extreme abusive posts are arrest able offenses , and free speech hasnt actually been banned 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You went to a Doctor because you had a nose bleed that had stopped bleeding ?

You expected the doctor to............................do what ?

Exactly the same as a doctor did for me in 1971. Very quick and painless cauterisation. Prevented further bleeds until now.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Exactly the same as a doctor did for me in 1971. Very quick and painless cauterisation. Prevented further bleeds until now.

Cauterisation is used to stop nose bleeds though and your nose wasn't bleeding .

   You do visits Doctors for him to tell you what needs to be done  , you dont visit Doctors and tell him what he should do 

[The Fugitive]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Cauterisation is used to stop nose bleeds though and your nose wasn't bleeding .

   You do visits Doctors for him to tell you what needs to be done  , you dont visit Doctors and tell him what he should do 

In the ideal World I would agree that 'doctor knows best'. My nose wasn't bleeding at the time the doctor cauterised it 51 years ago. Today, a doctor tells me that it can't be done. Be interesting to hear what my Thai specialist makes of that when I tell him! 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, The Fugitive said:

In the ideal World I would agree that 'doctor knows best'. My nose wasn't bleeding at the time the doctor cauterised it 51 years ago. Today, a doctor tells me that it can't be done. Be interesting to hear what my Thai specialist makes of that when I tell him! 

UK doctors are cutting back on needless treatment .

Quite probably your Thai specialist with give you everything possible , along with numerous drugs and bandages and future appointments and also a hefty bill 

[The Fugitive]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

UK doctors are cutting back on needless treatment .

Quite probably your Thai specialist with give you everything possible , along with numerous drugs and bandages and future appointments and also a hefty bill 

That is possible!

[ukrules]

6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

and free speech hasnt actually been banned 

It's hard to ban something when it doesn't exist in the first place - many don't understand this.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

It's hard to ban something when it doesn't exist in the first place - many don't understand this.

Free speech does exist in the U.K

Although free speech doesn't allow people to abuse or attack others 

[david555]

 

And still they come ! .....on risk of loosing life ....

 

Those small & big dingy's  day by day ...to "Paradise Island "....why ..?  ????

 

 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by david555

[Mac Mickmanus]

31 minutes ago, david555 said:

 

And still they come ! .....on risk of loosing life ....

 

Those small & big dingy's  day by day ...to "Paradise Island "....why ..?  ????

 

 

 

The weather in the U.K is so much better than the weather in Thailand 

[talahtnut]

Old boy 96 in the village swears by the vet for all his ailments.

[LaosLover]

The solution: Let Americans live in these grey brick hell holes and pay thru the nose for the privilege. They will think Hull is quaint. I know that I was under that misapprehension till around year 2 of my English stay.

 

Either have 90 day reporting, or you have to marry some fat slag who wears a tube top down to the pub.

[swissie]

Most comments here, disturb me deeply. In my younger years, I visited England often. One might say I turned into an Anglophile. Rural England was very much to my liking. The landscape, the history and the people.

Some years before, England had to give up most of their colonies. At this time I remember my fathers words: "After 300 years, the British will have to work for themselves for the first time as nobody else will not work for them for free no more".

Is that the root of it all? Empires come and go. Is the US the next empire to go, replaced by the Empire of China?

 

[The Fugitive]

18 minutes ago, swissie said:

Most comments here, disturb me deeply. In my younger years, I visited England often. One might say I turned into an Anglophile. Rural England was very much to my liking. The landscape, the history and the people.

Some years before, England had to give up most of their colonies. At this time I remember my fathers words: "After 300 years, the British will have to work for themselves for the first time as nobody else will not work for them for free no more".

Is that the root of it all? Empires come and go. Is the US the next empire to go, replaced by the Empire of China?

 

Brits refer to; 'Queen and Country'. In reality they are referring to; 'Queen, Country and Empire'. The Queen being Queen Victoria of course.

[Mac Mickmanus]

51 minutes ago, swissie said:

 

Some years before, England had to give up most of their colonies. At this time I remember my fathers words: "After 300 years, the British will have to work for themselves for the first time as nobody else will not work for them for free no more".

I

Did you ask you Dad whether he worked hard between 1939 and 1945 ?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/8/2022 at 7:48 PM, talahtnut said:

A collapsing NHS,

Indeed, and yet there are those ( and some on this forum ) that think the NHS should do everything for anyone eg gender changing, no matter how irrelevant to the reason the NHS was set up ie treat sick people that couldn't afford to pay.

 

I left the NHS some years ago, but the rot had already set in. Gordon Brown gave the NHS 6 billion quid and they wasted it on flash buildings and more managers. Such a shame, but that's managers for you- little empire builders.

The money would have been better spent on more cleaners and nurses that actually nursed ( instead of sitting in offices thinking of ways to make life harder for the actual workers ).

 

IMO the NHS was a brilliant idea, but it was sabotaged by those that should have known better. I knew a few surgical consultants that regarded the NHS as a source of cheap nurses for their private work. IMO if there is anything that could save the NHS it would be to oust consultants from doing private cases in NHS hospitals ( private cases should be done in private hospitals ) and reduce the number of managers by 70%.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, swissie said:

Most comments here, disturb me deeply. In my younger years, I visited England often. One might say I turned into an Anglophile. Rural England was very much to my liking. The landscape, the history and the people.

Some years before, England had to give up most of their colonies. At this time I remember my fathers words: "After 300 years, the British will have to work for themselves for the first time as nobody else will not work for them for free no more".

Is that the root of it all? Empires come and go. Is the US the next empire to go, replaced by the Empire of China?

 

You visited often, but didn't live in the UK? IMO one has to live in a country to understand the real problems.

 

I left the UK some years ago, but it had some deep rooted problems that had been caused by politicians, and short of some unpleasant solutions are, IMO, unlikely to be solved.

 

Will China be the next empire? Given the corruption and lack of moral fiber in the west, probably, but I hope I'm dead before it happens. IMO the west has become too soft and lazy to survive for much longer.