Circumcision

[Fat is a type of crazy]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

In principle I think that is a good idea.

But there seems to be one important difference. If it is done on a child, then is almost doesn't hurt.

If it's done with an adult, it hurts a lot and for weeks. At least that is what a friend told me who had to do it for medical reasons.

Probably just that a little child can't communicate the pain as an adult can. Probably more sensitive. Probably the baby is thinking what the <deleted> is this. Leave the peen alone. 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Probably just that a little child can't communicate the pain as an adult can. Probably more sensitive. Probably the baby is thinking what the <deleted> is this. Leave the peen alone. 

 

I understand your position and I agree they should leave it alone.

But it seems it is really a minor procedure on a young child and a hurtful operation on an adult.

[scubascuba3]

11 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Increased risk hiv too.

Circumcised is about 50% lower HIV risk.

 

Circumcision isn't something men want when older, parents need to make that decision when a baby

[Sparktrader]

28 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I understand your position and I agree they should leave it alone.

But it seems it is really a minor procedure on a young child and a hurtful operation on an adult.

Babies have no memory til about 3yo

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't think that adults should be able to legally chop bits of babies off , shouldn't matter if they are related .

Rubbish im glad they did. All cut men are.

[Why Me]

8 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Circumcised is about 50% lower HIV risk.

Jeez, if you're with a stranger use protection, Prep, see test results, etc. etc., which applies whether you're cut or not. Sex ed, not slashing.

 

[scubascuba3]

9 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

No uncircumcised countries are panicking and asking people to get circumcised to stop some kind of pandemic.

 

 

I remember seeing a program on it about African young men getting circumcised to reduce chances of HIV

[scubascuba3]

8 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

probably a stressful procedure for a surgeon , if he made a mistake he could well get the "sack" 

That's true, you'd only want a surgeon who's done it thousands of times

[Sparktrader]

9 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Jeez, if you're with a stranger use protection, Prep, see test results, etc. etc., which applies whether you're cut or not. Sex ed, not slashing.

 

Say no to genital mutilation.

Its skin. Just wasted excess disease increasing skin.

[Sparktrader]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

That's true, you'd only want a surgeon who's done it thousands of times

Somebody has to be no 1

[scubascuba3]

9 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Foreskins look gross. Seen them in movies. No thanks. Plus unhygienic. Science says. 

Kinda agree with that, being circumcised, foreskins do look gross.

 

As for sensitivity, it's hard to say as I haven't got a before and after to compare with, but it's definitely sensitive enough and no need for dick pills like most guys.

 

Plus the most powerful sexual organ is between the ears about 90%, that's more important

[Why Me]

  

8 hours ago, Why Me said:

From

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/

"Conclusions: This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. ..."

File a suit against your parents for year after year, encounter after encounter, of depleted sexual pleasure.

[Mac Mickmanus]

18 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I remember seeing a program on it about African young men getting circumcised to reduce chances of HIV

A better way would be not to have sex with people with contractible diseases .

   Its not just HIV , there's a whole host of others as well 

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

A better way would be not to have sex with people with contractible diseases .

   Its not just HIV , there's a whole host of others as well 

Yep, don't come to Thailand then, occupational hazaard

[RichardColeman]

Should be totally banned. Pure abuse of a child. If someone wants to be circumcised then they should make the decision when an adult, not have it forced on them for 'religious' reasons. One of my sons is circumcised, but that was for health reasons - not to please someone else.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Yep, don't come to Thailand then, occupational hazaard

Sexual diseases occur all over the World , not just in Thailand 

[Bday Prang]

48 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

That's true, you'd only want a surgeon who's done it thousands of times

but not on the same day

[Bday Prang]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I don't think that adults should be able to legally chop bits of babies off , shouldn't matter if they are related .

Seems bizarre considering the opposition to "smacking" due to it being "so barbaric 

[Mason45]

There is a draw back with an uncircumcised penis.

[Walker88]

Those barking about 'genital mutilation'  are equating removal of some useless skin with the removal of one of life's greatest pleasures?

 

Only one gender is a victim in post-natal surgery, and it isn't the gender with penises.

 

Personally, I think the 'convertible' is much more sporty looking than the 'coupe'. You might have a different opinion for your Army of One.

 

I'm grateful my parents made that decision for me, rather than 'let me decide' and have to undergo a procedure (or not) as an adult. It has saved me time washing up, may well have prevented a UTI or two or a penile infection, and that skin removal never got in the way of me enjoying the biological imperative.

 

As an aside, is this thread finally going to dethrone "Do You Believe in God and Why" as the longest ever?

 

 

[2009]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It is not child abuse either way.

It is when it's done to girls in most countries, legally so.

 

And common sense tells you that when it's done to boys it also is.

 

It's just that this practice was started in a different era in the West back when human rights, in general, weren't that great.

 

You know that people wouldn't just start doing it nowadays. It would be an unthinkable practice to just conjure up nowadays.

 

The fact that it continues, routinely, is either due to religious belief which is inherently backwards and dumb, or it's just a money-maker for a sickening healthcare system (can only think of America).

[RabidRenu]

Well fellas' and perhaps a lady or two? Thank you very much for the colourful feedback on my request for doctor info for this seemingly controversial procedure. We will be visiting the docs this morning (wont say where) wouldn''t want to be met with a clangy lump of ol' men with placards, jars of preserved foreskin and tears. Seriously do appreciate the commentary, and it's not an easy decision and hence if we do go forward finding the most experienced medical professional would be our top concern. Enjoy the cool weather and standby for my upcoming manual versus electric breast pump post...

[2009]

52 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Those barking about 'genital mutilation'  are equating removal of some useless skin with the removal of one of life's greatest pleasures?

 

Removing the frenulum (the most sensitive part for a man) is the equivalent of removing the clitoris.

 

And there are several different types of female circumcision and not all remove the clitoris.

 

The one in Sumatra, for example, just removes a small amount of skin around the clit. Does that make it acceptable? Clearly not.

 

52 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Only one gender is a victim in post-natal surgery, and it isn't the gender with penises.

How so?

 

Like I said above, there are kinds of female circumcision that are not more extreme than male circumcision. Only Africa really takes it to extremes, actually.

 

And there are short term and long term complications with male circumcision too, just Google it. 

 

At the very least, it desensitizes your penis. Your soft, moist mucous membrane turns into tougher skin (i.e. basically ends up similar to other external skin).

 

52 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Personally, I think the 'convertible' is much more sporty looking than the 'coupe'. You might have a different opinion for your Army of One.

Oh yeah, let's start surgically styling children's genitals. That sounds sane.

 

52 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It has saved me time washing up, may well have prevented a UTI or two or a penile infection, and that skin removal never got in the way of me enjoying the biological imperative.

How do you even know how long it takes washing a natural penis?

 

Or what it feels like to have sex with a penis that has soft, moist mucous membrane?

 

You can't know these things.

 

And, let me tell you how many UTIs, or penile infections, I have had......................................

...............zero.

 

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Based on your logic we should routinely remove tonsils and appendixes.

 

I got countless tonsil infections as a kid and I know someone who almost died due to having an appendix that became a problem.

[2009]

2 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Its skin. Just wasted excess disease increasing skin.

It is truly a fascinating phenomenon how humans place sexual health on such high level of importance, yet we, as a species, typically destroy our health in many other pleasurable ways (including our vital organs)  and also take unnecessary risks (that could result in immediate death).

 

But, nope, gotta keep our reproductive health perfect.

 

We are like kamakazee shaggers.

 

[Jingthing]

49 minutes ago, 2009 said:

It is when it's done to girls in most countries, legally so.

 

And common sense tells you that when it's done to boys it also is.

 

It's just that this practice was started in a different era in the West back when human rights, in general, weren't that great.

 

You know that people wouldn't just start doing it nowadays. It would be an unthinkable practice to just conjure up nowadays.

 

The fact that it continues, routinely, is either due to religious belief which is inherently backwards and dumb, or it's just a money-maker for a sickening healthcare system (can only think of America).

It's not the same as with females.

Why would something so obvious wait until now to be discovered. 

Don't like it? Don't do it to yourself or your male children.

Otherwise none of your business!

[CharlieH]

3 minutes ago, 2009 said:

No idea what you are talking about.

 

What are dick pills?

Viagra, Cialis etc  for enhancement or erectile dydfunction in some cases.

[CharlieH]

28 minutes ago, RabidRenu said:

Well fellas' and perhaps a lady or two? Thank you very much for the colourful feedback on my request for doctor info for this seemingly controversial procedure. We will be visiting the docs this morning (wont say where) wouldn''t want to be met with a clangy lump of ol' men with placards, jars of preserved foreskin and tears. Seriously do appreciate the commentary, and it's not an easy decision and hence if we do go forward finding the most experienced medical professional would be our top concern. Enjoy the cool weather and standby for my upcoming manual versus electric breast pump post...

 

Given this post,and the fact he merely asked for a Doctor recommendation not opinion and debate on the procedure, this can now be closed.

 

CLOSED