The Pentagon has issued an order mandating the removal of all transgender service members from the United States military unless they secure a waiver proving their ability to meet service requirements. This directive, outlined in a memo filed late Wednesday, states that individuals with a "current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria" will no longer be eligible to serve.

 

 

The memo references President Donald Trump’s executive order signed in February, which asserts that "the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria are incompatible with the high mental and physical standards necessary for military service." The document instructs military leadership to identify transgender personnel within 30 days and to process their removal within an additional 30 days through honorable separation.

 

 

"Service members being processed for separation in accordance with this policy will be afforded all statutorily required rights and benefits," the memo states. It allows for waivers on a case-by-case basis but insists that any exemption must demonstrate a "compelling government interest" in retaining individuals who "directly support war fighting capabilities" and who meet the military's standards associated with their sex at birth.

 

The criteria for retention specify that service members must demonstrate 36 consecutive months of stability in their sex and must not have attempted to physically transition. The policy follows previous actions by Trump, who first moved to ban transgender service members in 2017 and reinforced the restrictions in 2018. Former Defense Secretary James Mattis slowed the policy's implementation during Trump’s first term, leading to delays in enforcement. However, upon taking office in January 2021, President Joe Biden overturned the ban, allowing transgender individuals to serve openly and prompting the military to publicly recognize their contributions.

 

In July 2023, Maj. Rachel Jones was honored for coming out as a transgender female, with the Department of Defense highlighting her "journey from battling depression & suicidal thoughts to embracing authenticity inspires us all." This stance shifted again when Trump returned to the presidency, leading to the reinstatement of a more stringent ban on transgender service members.

 

Current Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has taken swift action to enforce Trump’s orders. The memo underscores that the Department of Defense will now only recognize two sexes—male and female—and affirms that "an individual's sex is immutable, unchanging during a person's life." All service members will be required to adhere to the standards and policies associated with their sex at birth.

 

The directive specifies that only the pronouns "sir" or "ma’am" will be used within the military. Additionally, male and female personnel will not be permitted to share sleeping, changing, or bathing facilities designated for the opposite sex.

 

Furthermore, the memo makes clear that no Pentagon funds will be allocated for sex reassignment surgeries, genital reconstruction procedures, or cross-sex hormone therapy for service members or their families. This decision marks a significant shift in military policy, once again restricting the service of transgender individuals in the armed forces.

 

Based on a report by The Daily Mail  2025-03-01

 

 

Good

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Are we seriously expected to believe s/he is capable of the minimum standards of fitness required to serve. In the military I served in we had to pass a fitness test every year. One of those tests was carrying another serviceman for a distance- I defy most normal men the ability to carry him/ her any distance at all. Looks like his/ her speciality is in relation to consuming as much food as possible. Capable of an 8 mile run in full battle gear?

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

Furthermore, the memo makes clear that no Pentagon funds will be allocated for sex reassignment surgeries, genital reconstruction procedures, or cross-sex hormone therapy for service members or their families. This decision marks a significant shift in military policy, once again restricting the service of transgender individuals in the armed forces.

The real crime is that it was permitted at all. Utter nonsense to do so.

she looks pregnant...

58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are we seriously expected to believe s/he is capable of the minimum standards of fitness required to serve. In the military I served in we had to pass a fitness test every year. One of those tests was carrying another serviceman for a distance- I defy most normal men the ability to carry him/ her any distance at all. Looks like his/ her speciality is in relation to consuming as much food as possible. Capable of an 8 mile run in full battle gear?

 

I also served in the military (in the UK).  We had different standards for women and men.   It's significantly easier to pass the womens fitness tests than the mens, laughably easy in fact.   The females I served with were embarrassed at having to stop the bleep test when they reached the passing grade at barely above brisk walking pace level to pass.   Even an old fat bloke could pass the level set for an 18 year old female, so if he is allowed to take the female version of the test, he would probably be fit enough.   

3 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

she looks pregnant...

She looks ****ing awful.

20 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

I also served in the military (in the UK).  We had different standards for women and men.   It's significantly easier to pass the womens fitness tests than the mens, laughably easy in fact.   The females I served with were embarrassed at having to stop the bleep test when they reached the passing grade at barely above brisk walking pace level to pass.   Even an old fat bloke could pass the level set for an 18 year old female, so if he is allowed to take the female version of the test, he would probably be fit enough.   

I agree. I suspect the men pretending to be a woman were allowed to take the female version.

 

Women should never be allowed to be in combat unless they can pass the same physical requirements that men have to meet. Those requirements are for a reason.

 

BTW, when I was in the real military ( Vietnam era ) such things never came up because

a/ no man pretending to be a woman would even dare to try and join up 

b/ women in the military were used in the typing pool and as nurses. None had dreams of being a female Rambo.

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are we seriously expected to believe s/he is capable of the minimum standards of fitness required to serve. In the military I served in we had to pass a fitness test every year. One of those tests was carrying another serviceman for a distance- I defy most normal men the ability to carry him/ her any distance at all. Looks like his/ her speciality is in relation to consuming as much food as possible. Capable of an 8 mile run in full battle gear?

 

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria" will no longer be eligible to serve

apparently, this gender dysphoria diagnosis was completely rejected by the Dems. It has always been a type of mental illness and still is. Just take a look at the news in Thailand with ladyboys acting as men attacking people. Just because you make a face or act a certain way does not make you a different sex. It ony shows you have something wrong with your thought process. Which makes you a bad choice for being a soldier. Trump did the right thing. 

 

Biologically males have an inherent urge to be aggressive warriors. To this end, fathers of yore encouraged their sons to participate in harsh physical activities i.e. hunting, fishing, competitive sports particularly sports involving fierce bodily contact. Some of the specimens in uniform could not climb out of a foxhole, thei only form of bodily contact being that of self pleasure.

The US military's main purpose is to defend the USA, to do that it may well involve killing the enemy.

Do you really want people with a mental disorder...'gender dysphoria' running around with a firearm?

 

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), gender dysphoria is classified as a mental disorder. Specifically, it’s listed under the category "Gender Dysphoria"

36 minutes ago, thesetat said:

Just take a look at the news in Thailand with ladyboys acting as men attacking people.

 

I've noticed this myself.  While "trans women" clearly want to look like women, they definitely retain most male behaviours.  To say they're simply "women in men's bodies" cannot be true.

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

The Pentagon has issued an order mandating the removal of all transgender service members from the United States military unless they secure a waiver proving their ability to meet service requirements. This directive, outlined in a memo filed late Wednesday, states that individuals with a "current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria" will no longer be eligible to serve.

 

 

The memo references President Donald Trump’s executive order signed in February, which asserts that "the medical, surgical, and mental health constraints on individuals who have a current diagnosis or history of, or exhibit symptoms consistent with, gender dysphoria are incompatible with the high mental and physical standards necessary for military service." The document instructs military leadership to identify transgender personnel within 30 days and to process their removal within an additional 30 days through honorable separation.

 

 

 

"Service members being processed for separation in accordance with this policy will be afforded all statutorily required rights and benefits," the memo states. It allows for waivers on a case-by-case basis but insists that any exemption must demonstrate a "compelling government interest" in retaining individuals who "directly support war fighting capabilities" and who meet the military's standards associated with their sex at birth.

 

The criteria for retention specify that service members must demonstrate 36 consecutive months of stability in their sex and must not have attempted to physically transition. The policy follows previous actions by Trump, who first moved to ban transgender service members in 2017 and reinforced the restrictions in 2018. Former Defense Secretary James Mattis slowed the policy's implementation during Trump’s first term, leading to delays in enforcement. However, upon taking office in January 2021, President Joe Biden overturned the ban, allowing transgender individuals to serve openly and prompting the military to publicly recognize their contributions.

 

In July 2023, Maj. Rachel Jones was honored for coming out as a transgender female, with the Department of Defense highlighting her "journey from battling depression & suicidal thoughts to embracing authenticity inspires us all." This stance shifted again when Trump returned to the presidency, leading to the reinstatement of a more stringent ban on transgender service members.

 

Current Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has taken swift action to enforce Trump’s orders. The memo underscores that the Department of Defense will now only recognize two sexes—male and female—and affirms that "an individual's sex is immutable, unchanging during a person's life." All service members will be required to adhere to the standards and policies associated with their sex at birth.

 

The directive specifies that only the pronouns "sir" or "ma’am" will be used within the military. Additionally, male and female personnel will not be permitted to share sleeping, changing, or bathing facilities designated for the opposite sex.

 

Furthermore, the memo makes clear that no Pentagon funds will be allocated for sex reassignment surgeries, genital reconstruction procedures, or cross-sex hormone therapy for service members or their families. This decision marks a significant shift in military policy, once again restricting the service of transgender individuals in the armed forces.

 

Based on a report by The Daily Mail  2025-03-01

 

 

To prevent the draft being flooded with a huge wave of men dressed in women's clothing,

all of these should be placed in  'workhouses for their otherwise full term...

8 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I've noticed this myself.  While "trans women" clearly want to look like women, they definitely retain most male behaviours.  To say they're simply "women in men's bodies" cannot be true.

 

Proving it's not true

 

6 minutes ago, p414 said:

To prevent the draft being flooded with a huge wave of men dressed in women's clothing,

all of these should be placed in  'workhouses for their otherwise full term...

There has not been a draft for 50 years.

2 minutes ago, proton said:

Proving it's not true

 

"Let me prove how much of a woman I am by looking and acting exactly like a man."  🙄

 

And there are some people who would say that this is a woman simply because they say so, and that we have to agree that they are a woman and call them she/her, etc.

Lipstick and eyeliner sales at the PX stores will suffer a dramatic decline. 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are we seriously expected to believe s/he is capable of the minimum standards of fitness required to serve. In the military I served in we had to pass a fitness test every year. One of those tests was carrying another serviceman for a distance- I defy most normal men the ability to carry him/ her any distance at all. Looks like his/ her speciality is in relation to consuming as much food as possible. Capable of an 8 mile run in full battle gear?

 

So why not discipline them in respect to their fitness level, and apply that same criteria to all service personnel?

DEI just weakens the military. 

 

Just like it weakened the Dems by appointing DEI Harris. Leading to a crushing defeat. 

 

No place for it in any serious walk of life.

 

Don't Federal laws forbid this under gender non-discrimination laws? 

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

Don't Federal laws forbid this under gender non-discrimination laws? 

No

53 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

There has not been a draft for 50 years.

Still have to register 

41 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

So why not discipline them in respect to their fitness level, and apply that same criteria to all service personnel?

Why indeed. 

59 minutes ago, Gsxrnz said:

Lipstick and eyeliner sales at the PX stores will suffer a dramatic decline. 

Vance will take it.

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Vance will take it.

You get a little chubby thinking about that? 

38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You get a little chubby thinking about that? 

No but you probably do.

5 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Do you really want people with a mental disorder...'gender dysphoria' running around with a firearm?

You have a completely mentally disturbed 'president' (also convicted criminal!) running around with nuclear arms, do you call that normal?!? Maybe in america, yes, but not in the real world!

9 minutes ago, JulesMad said:

You have a completely mentally disturbed 'president' ... running around with nuclear arms, do you call that normal?!?

Got anything to justify that complete nonsense?  Trump is the President, not the 'president'

Aside from the question if trans troops make good ‘soldiers’: an army needs much more than just the gung-ho warrior type of men. They need good administrators, engineers, cooks, IT-people, maintenance people, and so on and so forth. A good army can not function properly without a good backbone like this. So why wouldn’t trans troops be qualified to fulfill these kinds of jobs in the army?