Vaccinating Pattaya

[TaaSaparot]

Surprised to see that they are going to use, the indoor stadium on Chaiyapruek to start vaccinating Pattaya residents in June.

 

[jacko45k]

But this isn't the one with the long overdue completion date? 

[champers]

June, so must we presume it is AZ?

[TaaSaparot]

41 minutes ago, champers said:

June, so must we presume it is AZ?

 

Not sure.

 

Vaccinating 300,000 seems to have been mentioned.

[Guderian]

Far enough out in the Boondocks that it will be inaccessible for the many farangs living near the beach who don't have their own transport and depend on Baht Buses to get around. I should have thought that PEACH would have been a better location, at least for the Bright Side population. Makes no difference to me, just thinking of my fellow expats, some of whom don't have their own wheels.

[TaaSaparot]

1 minute ago, Guderian said:

Far enough out in the Boondocks that it will be inaccessible for the many farangs living near the beach who don't have their own transport and depend on Baht Buses to get around. I should have thought that PEACH would have been a better location, at least for the Bright Side population. Makes no difference to me, just thinking of my fellow expats, some of whom don't have their own wheels.

 

I agree about the location, but this will not involve Foreigners I would have thought.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, Guderian said:

Far enough out in the Boondocks that it will be inaccessible for the many farangs living near the beach who don't have their own transport and depend on Baht Buses to get around. I should have thought that PEACH would have been a better location, at least for the Bright Side population. Makes no difference to me, just thinking of my fellow expats, some of whom don't have their own wheels.

It did mention quite clearly Pattaya residents and to be honest the cynic in me believes foreigners are not yet considered. I live here and that is no more difficult to get to than Peach. Use a Bolt taxi to get there if you don't have own transport.... (if and when foreign 'residents' are included.) 

Personally I just wish they would get on with it, and we can get out of this restrictive, soul destroying situation. 

[Jeffr2]

If June, I'd guess it will be the Chinese jab.  I think the AZ jab will start deliveries sometime in July.  We'll see....

 

But great that they are getting it setup so they are ready!!

[thailand49]

16 hours ago, jacko45k said:

But this isn't the one with the long overdue completion date? 

The long overdue complex is in the back of the indoor stadium the project unfinished is a outdoor stadium. 

[redwood1]

So are they going to be giving away free krispy Kreme doughnuts with a vax like in America?........

 

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by redwood1

[bobbin]

16 hours ago, Guderian said:

Far enough out in the Boondocks that it will be inaccessible for the many farangs living near the beach who don't have their own transport and depend on Baht Buses to get around. I should have thought that PEACH would have been a better location, at least for the Bright Side population. Makes no difference to me, just thinking of my fellow expats, some of whom don't have their own wheels.

Bolt.

 

Surprisingly inexpensive.

 

At least until Grab makes them a buy-out offer..

[bobbin]

An indoor venue large enough to accommodate 1000+ un-vaccinated people is not my first choice...

[garzhe]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

It did mention quite clearly Pattaya residents and to be honest the cynic in me believes foreigners are not yet considered. I live here and that is no more difficult to get to than Peach. Use a Bolt taxi to get there if you don't have own transport.... (if and when foreign 'residents' are included.) 

Personally I just wish they would get on with it, and we can get out of this restrictive, soul destroying situation. 

I think foreigners are unlikely to be included in any program in Thailand.  I tried to register with Bumrungrad hospital in Bangkok as they are inviting requests to be notified when a vaccine is available. The response I got was extraordinary, telling me how they care for all Nationalities then saying I cant register without a Thai ID.

 

"Greetings from Bumrungrad International Hospital.
Taking care of our patients during the covid regardless of their nationalities is our utmost priority. 
Please be advised that the current COVID-19 vaccination booking with the Office of Health BMA requires a Thai ID number. As of now, Bumrungrad International Hospital is yet to receive the supplies of COVID-19 vaccines. "

 

[starky]

3 hours ago, garzhe said:

I think foreigners are unlikely to be included in any program in Thailand.  I tried to register with Bumrungrad hospital in Bangkok as they are inviting requests to be notified when a vaccine is available. The response I got was extraordinary, telling me how they care for all Nationalities then saying I cant register without a Thai ID.

 

"Greetings from Bumrungrad International Hospital.
Taking care of our patients during the covid regardless of their nationalities is our utmost priority. 
Please be advised that the current COVID-19 vaccination booking with the Office of Health BMA requires a Thai ID number. As of now, Bumrungrad International Hospital is yet to receive the supplies of COVID-19 vaccines. "

 

Well shouldn't all Thai people be offered vaccination in their country before the expat population?

 I mean unless you have citizenship or PR why in gods name would any foreigner be eligible for vaccination before people of Thai descent? 

  

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, starky said:

Well shouldn't all Thai people be offered vaccination in their country before the expat population?

 I mean unless you have citizenship or PR why in gods name would any foreigner be eligible for vaccination before people of Thai descent? 

  

If we're living here it's to everyone's benefit for everyone to get vaccinated regardless of nationality. The virus doesn't check!

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, redwood1 said:

So are they going to be giving away free krispy Kreme doughnuts with a vax like in America?........

Apparently that is the only way  they can get Americans to have the jab!

[starky]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If we're living here it's to everyone's benefit for everyone to get vaccinated regardless of nationality. The virus doesn't check!

Yes but a country who's rollout is struggling and have probably not even secured enough vaccine for its own populace surely you wouldn't be bold enough to suggest that you should be vaccinated before a Thai national? Or are you suggesting expats get vaccine before citizens? 

 And what are you living here as PR? Citizen? Or just someone residing on a visa cos that's what I do and there is no way I would have the audacity to suggest I should be vaccinated before any Thai person.

Edited April 21, 2021 by starky

[Emdog]

7 minutes ago, starky said:

Well shouldn't all Thai people be offered vaccination in their country before the expat population?

 I mean unless you have citizenship or PR why in gods name would any foreigner be eligible for vaccination before people of Thai descent? 

  

I agree. Any responsible government looks after their citizens first, even this one...

Does not include US government and their (insert expletive here) decision makers. I've called embassy in BKK and got this from state department

"We are committed to ensuring the welfare and safety of U.S. citizens abroad....  We will continue working with our international partners to combat the outbreak, provide assistance to those who remain overseas, and minimize the risks to our citizens around the world." Gee that sounds good, but...

"The United States Government does not plan to provide COVID-19 vaccinations to private U.S. citizens overseas. Please follow host country developments and guidelines for COVID-19 vaccination." We are to "depend on local resources" AKA twist in the wind

And they wonder why some people hate US government...

[TaaSaparot]

3 hours ago, garzhe said:

The response I got was extraordinary, telling me how they care for all Nationalities then saying I cant register without a Thai ID.

 

 

Yes, Richard Barrow posted the same the other day.

 

[TaaSaparot]

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If we're living here it's to everyone's benefit for everyone to get vaccinated regardless of nationality. The virus doesn't check!

 

Come on Jingthing, please don't tell me you would be surprised at this?

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, starky said:

Yes but a country who's rollout is struggling and have probably not even secured enough vaccine for its own populace surely you wouldn't be bold enough to suggest that you should be vaccinated before a Thai national? Or are you suggesting expats get vaccine before citizens? 

 And what are you living here as PR? Citizen? Or just someone residing on a visa cos that's what I do and there is no way I would have the audacity to suggest I should be vaccinated before any Thai person.

Dude.

Do not put words in my mouth.

I don’t think nationality should be relevant.

They should decide on priority protocols based on essential workers and high risk groups. Foreigners in those high risk groups should not be discriminated against.

Yes I know they aren't doing that.. 

[starky]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Dude.

Do not put words in my mouth.

I don’t think nationality should be relevant.

They should decide on priority protocols based on essential workers and high risk groups. Foreigners in those high risk groups should not be discriminated against.

Yes I know they aren't doing that.. 

Ok ill put it another way. I'm an Australian whatever your nationality may be I could almost 100% guarantee you that the citizens of your country as they will in mine will be the first ones vaccinated. There is no way in gods green earth anyone in Australia living there on a visa will be getting vaccinated before an Australian citizen. If the person in question has PR or Citizenship or is an essential worker that may be a different story but for that story to be different they would be required to be working there.

 How many expats in Pattaya would be essential workers ? I imagine close to zero.

  If your in a high risk group and think vaccine is a priority for you it may be wiser to return to the land of your birth where I am sure with your "priority" you will be able to receive your vaccine immediately and for free.

Edited April 21, 2021 by starky

[mikebike]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Dude.

Do not put words in my mouth.

I don’t think nationality should be relevant.

They should decide on priority protocols based on essential workers and high risk groups. Foreigners in those high risk groups should not be discriminated against.

Yes I know they aren't doing that.. 

Not sure I agree. This is home for Thai people. We, on the other hand, have the option of returning to our home country. I believe I would prioritize the at-risk native population then then migrant workers, only then low-risk Thais and foreigner expats.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, starky said:

Ok ill put it another way. I'm an Australian whatever your nationality may be I could almost 100% guarantee you that the citizens of your country as they will in mine will be the first ones vaccinated. There is no way in gods green earth anyone in Australia living there on a visa will be getting vaccinated before an Australian citizen. If the person in question has PR or Citizenship or is an essential worker that may be a different story but for that story to be different they would be required to be working there.

 How many expats in Pattaya would be essential workers ? I imagine close to zero.

  If your in a high risk group and think vaccine is a priority for you it may be wiser to return to the land of your birth where I am sure with your "priority" you will be able to receive your vaccine immediately and for free.

I get it. You're super heavy on the nationalism. Viruses don't care.

[starky]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I get it. You're super heavy on the nationalism. Viruses don't care.

Don't see any evidence of any country in the world treating their response any differently. In fact some countries like the US are stockpiling far more vaccine than they need that could sorely be used for the rest of the world. 

   Still don't see the reasoning behind why you think you would deserve a vaccine before a citizen thats not super nationalistic just common sense. I have a wife and children here no doubt in my mind who should be getting any vaccine first.

Edited April 21, 2021 by starky

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, starky said:

Don't see any evidence of any country in the world treating their response any differently in fact some countries like the US are stockpiling far more vaccine than they need that could sorely be used for the rest of the world. 

   Still don't see the reasoning behind why you think you would deserve a vaccine before a citizen thats not super nationalistic just common sense. I have a wife and children here not doubt in my mind who should be getting any vaccine first.

Medical ethics over political nationalist ethics. I am suggesting what is right not what will happen.

[Andy from Kent]

45 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Apparently that is the only way  they can get Americans to have the jab!

 

 

Mushy peas for Brits?     ????

[mikebike]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Medical ethics over political nationalist ethics. I am suggesting what is right not what will happen.

As presented, your opinion has nothing to do with either medical ethics nor "what is right". 

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

 

Mushy peas for Brits?     ????

Plate of chips (French fries) with malt vinegar....

[goatfarmer]

On 4/20/2021 at 3:41 PM, champers said:

June, so must we presume it is AZ?

More likely Sinovac.