Private hospitals grow increasingly frustrated with government

[webfact]

 

By Cod Satrusayang

 

Private hospital administrators and doctors are growing increasingly frustrated with the government’s vaccine rollout and lack of transparency, sources told Thai Enquirer on Monday.

 

Following delays to the government’s vaccine program this weekend, private hospitals have had to call patients to postpone vaccination dates due to shortages.

 

Many have been blamed by patients for the delay adding to the frustration over a government that has failed to help private hospitals at seemingly every turn.

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/28502/private-hospitals-grow-increasingly-frustrated-with-government/

 

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[rabas]

Increasingly frustrated. I didn't know there was anything above infinite.

 

There has been a 3 or 4 way war on top for months. This is why Dr. Yong was making all his statements about vaccines and variants, to warn them, to no avail. Then there is Anutin, the exponential disaster.

 

People complain about software that don't work while these idiots' give hospitals just days to develop it. I bet software people are triple frustrated. What a mess.

 

Next time you bang endlessly on Thailandintervac remember,  Anutin was here.

Edited June 14, 2021 by rabas

[worgeordie]

"Private hospitals grow increasingly frustrated with government"

Plus the general Thai population , people making appointments,

maybe taking time off work to attend,hoping to get vaccine, and

when they get there it's Cancelled.

 

The health minister taking no responsibility , 

regards worgeordie  

[MRToMRT]

Interesting article, worth a read. Even SiamBioscience get the boot in.

 

 

[poskat]

thinking about all vaccine related issues from the perspective of what makes those in charge the most profit, and not how to get the most people jabbed usually clears up what seems to make no sense

[Shuya]

Remember that guy who was a MP and told them a year ago they will <deleted> up with their strategy? He got a 112. 

[colinneil]

 

57 minutes ago, webfact said:

Private hospital administrators and doctors are growing increasingly frustrated with the government’

The comment should have been..... Private hospitals and 70 million other people are growing increasingly frustrated with the pathetic excuse of a governments lack of caring, plus their total disregard for the peoples health/ wellbeing.

[Kaoboi Bebobp]

From the Thai Inquirer:

 

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According to medical representatives from Pfizer, there has been a question to the Thai Food and Drug Administration and the government for approval and importation of the Pfizer vaccines since November of last year. For some reason, which has not been explained by the government, this request was rejected.

 

Shockingly stupid, since Pfizer-BioNTech was already getting great results.

 

Thailand signed a deal with AstraZeneca to have Siam Bioscience make the AZ vaccine in November last year. What a coincidence! 

 

Remember when we all agreed how lucky we were to be in Thailand during this pandemic?

Edited June 14, 2021 by Kaoboi Bebobp
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[internationalism]

I think private hospitals are waiting for their own imported vax for their patients.

Those ordered from the ministry are rather for their own personel, maybe some for hospitalised patients.

Those people can get shorts at the government hospitals, but it's more complicated and time consuming.

The real problem is blocking by the gov importation of different vax.

The more alternatives, the better chance for protection against different strain and larger volume.

 

What one MP mentioned sometimes few months ago, that Pfizer offered the last year several times to the government vials, for which they wanted post-payment (no deposits etc). The government refused them, because "it was not known how effective they are".

Since shaking hands with sputnik representatives on 20th april, anutin took water in his month. Now almost 2 months this vax not ever mentioned anymore. At least approving this vax can bring some russian tourists.

Same goes with many other chinese vax, and the indian one. If not approved by WHO or thai, they are invalid for visa/travel passport purpose 

[wasabi]

The USA is literally giving away millions of doses of vaccines and they can't find enough vaccines to even inoculate 1% of the population? I have never seen incompetence and corruption at this scale. They are even incompetent at corruption.

[phills2k1]

I've been staying away from this forum and twitter as much as possible the past few weeks

 

Just out of curiosity, what do the people who blindly supported those in charge and viciously criticized those of us who dared to question either the handling of this recent wave or the vaccine production / rollout have to say at the moment?

[ThomasThBKK]

14 minutes ago, phills2k1 said:

I've been staying away from this forum and twitter as much as possible the past few weeks

 

Just out of curiosity, what do the people who blindly supported those in charge and viciously criticized those of us who dared to question either the handling of this recent wave or the vaccine production / rollout have to say at the moment?

 

 

i got no words, but i hope this video expresses my feelings well enough

[Seismic]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

I think private hospitals are waiting for their own imported vax for their patients.

 

No, the private hospitals in question are the ones the government was using in the thailandintervac program. They were supposed to receive a certain number of vaccines, but so far less than half have arrived thus causing them to cancel appointments. There is a good opinion piece on a certain English language newspaper discussing it.

[Seismic]

1 hour ago, wasabi said:

The USA is literally giving away millions of doses of vaccines and they can't find enough vaccines to even inoculate 1% of the population? I have never seen incompetence and corruption at this scale. They are even incompetent at corruption.

Yes, but unfortunately for Thailand the US is donating those vaccines to the Covax initiative, and Thailand decided not to join that.

[dsj]

Meanwhile while the rest of the world is getting vaccinated with donations from the Western countries thru Covax,  meanwhile Thailand will still be waiting for their shipments of vaccine. while the rest sits back and laugh. They plan to reopen Phuket July 1st. That's funny.

Edited June 14, 2021 by dsj

[Isaan sailor]

If you’re holding out for the good stuff (Pfizer, Moderna) from the private hospitals, the fact that they cannot get enough of the other stuff (SinoVac, AstraZeneca) does not bode well…

Edited June 14, 2021 by Isaan sailor

[richard_smith237]

 

News this morning of mass-cancellations.... 

 

My Wife’s parents went for their vaccines today (not sure which hospital in Bangkok). 

 

My wife had to call and call the hospital to confirm no cancellation etc... no answer from the hospital. 

 

In laws went regardless and were told by the nurse, don’t bother with Sinovac (the vaccine on offer today), come back next week for AstraZeneca, while a different nurse advised them just to have the Sinovac, its still an ok vaccine. 

 

In laws had Sinovac. 

[rwill]

The local government hospital where we live had enough for the first  2 days, Monday & Tuesday.  My wife had an appointment on Friday.

So it isn't just the private hospitals.

[John Drake]

Sinovac starting to look like gold standard here in Thailand.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, worgeordie said:

"Private hospitals grow increasingly frustrated with government"

Plus the general Thai population , people making appointments,

maybe taking time off work to attend,hoping to get vaccine, and

when they get there it's Cancelled.

 

The health minister taking no responsibility , 

regards worgeordie  

He has no responsibility when it goes pear-shaped, he blames everyone else.

Prayut had better watch out this fiasco is coming home to roost.

The knives are out and people are openly starting to criticise them.

[Deli]

The vax situation reflects in full the inaptitude of any public entity in this country.

However, sometimes this also has his advantages...

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, MRToMRT said:

Interesting article, worth a read. Even SiamBioscience get the boot in.

 

 

Yes very interesting, the doctor at the Bumrungrad hospital doesn't mince his words.

The government blocked every way it could their attempt to secure vaccines dating back to last November. And their joint incompetence has finally been laid bare for everyone to see.

Now telling bare faced lies to cover their backsides.

 

[rodknock]

how is it bumrungrad has vaccine for injection.

it is not a government hospital, private hospital.

where did they get it.

[Dogmatix]

8 minutes ago, rodknock said:

how is it bumrungrad has vaccine for injection.

it is not a government hospital, private hospital.

where did they get it.

 

The private hospitals have been coopted into the government Mor Prom scheme.  They have to provide the vaccinations for free but presumably get a token fee from teh government to cover their costs.

[moe666]

7 hours ago, rabas said:

Increasingly frustrated. I didn't know there was anything above infinite.

 

There has been a 3 or 4 way war on top for months. This is why Dr. Yong was making all his statements about vaccines and variants, to warn them, to no avail. Then there is Anutin, the exponential disaster.

 

People complain about software that don't work while these idiots' give hospitals just days to develop it. I bet software people are triple frustrated. What a mess.

 

Next time you bang endlessly on Thailandintervac remember,  Anutin was here.

I am just waiting eventually it will all be worked out, no need to raise ones flustration level

[spidermike007]

There comes a point in time where civil disobedience is the only course of action left. We all must engage in it, in whatever way we can. 

 

The embassies should bring in a many vaccines as they can, with or without permission from the feeble government or the fraudulent FDA, for their own citizens, all their employees, and as many Thai as as they can vaccinate. It doubly serves as a way of humiliating the creeps. 

 

The hospitals should figure out a way to smuggle in the doses, or pay off customs guys, which is easy here. 

 

We should all work on ways to circumvent these bumbling creeps. Whatever it takes. Any way we can. 

 

Enough is enough. 

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There comes a point in time where civil disobedience is the only course of action left. We all must engage in it, in whatever way we can. 

 

The embassies should bring in a many vaccines as they can, with or without permission from the feeble government or the fraudulent FDA, for their own citizens, all their employees, and as many Thai as as they can vaccinate. It doubly serves as a way of humiliating the creeps. 

 

The hospitals should figure out a way to smuggle in the doses, or pay off customs guys, which is easy here. 

 

We should all work on ways to circumvent these bumbling creeps. Whatever it takes. Any way we can. 

 

Enough is enough. 

Was wondering what this left field post was all about and then I notice the username ........007. 

Keep up the good work James. 

I assume it was all tongue in cheek.

[J Town]

They've only had a year + to figure things out. Shake my head!

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Was wondering what this left field post was all about and then I notice the username ........007. 

Keep up the good work James. 

I assume it was all tongue in cheek.

Nope. Meant every word of it. Have a better suggestion, to solve the current woes? Just obey? Nah. Think I will pass on ultra passivity. 

[chilly07]

8 hours ago, rabas said:

Increasingly frustrated. I didn't know there was anything above infinite.

 

There has been a 3 or 4 way war on top for months. This is why Dr. Yong was making all his statements about vaccines and variants, to warn them, to no avail. Then there is Anutin, the exponential disaster.

 

People complain about software that don't work while these idiots' give hospitals just days to develop it. I bet software people are triple frustrated. What a mess.

 

Next time you bang endlessly on Thailandintervac remember,  Anutin was here.

And now they are talking about resurrecting Mor Pror again!