Thailand reports 4,059 new COVID-19 cases, 35 more deaths

[Bkk Brian]

Always a good indication of whether enough tests are being carried out are the ratio of pro active tests to hospital walk ins. Pro active should always out number those making their way to hospital of their own accord.

 

During the Samut Sakhon outbreak, case discovery was heavily tilted towards proactive testing. This third wave is very different.

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/220664.pdf

Edited June 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

The cabinet has approved the #PhuketSandbox plan for 1st July together with a backup plan in case there is a new outbreak. They also approved the Surat Thani Province plan for Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, and Koh Tao. Full details soon #PhuketReopening #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407242593721749515

 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The cabinet has approved the #PhuketSandbox plan for 1st July together with a backup plan in case there is a new outbreak. They also approved the Surat Thani Province plan for Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, and Koh Tao. Full details soon #PhuketReopening #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407242593721749515

 

Good luck to all and god speed.  Lets hope this experiment does not go pear shaped rather quickly with the new cases growing.

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, itsari said:

The Chinese communist style restrictions did a good job of restricting the amount of deaths to there people from covid 19 .

What ever you think about the Chinese they acted quickly .

Hopefully the Thai government can do the same if the situation becomes worse .

 Yes, a complete Chinese-style lockdown will stop the spread.  But at what cost?  Personally, I don't want an already autocratic government to go down an even more dictatorial route, and I'm not even sure the Thai people would accept it!

[meltonpie]

1 hour ago, puck2 said:

 

Sorry RC, did they test the cows, horses and the birds too?

As far as I know, the UK has hat below 70 million people in 2019, in numbers: 70.00.000. Or did they <deleted> so much in 2019 and 2020?

The UK Government encourage everyone to take two lateral flow tests per week

you could in reality take them as often as you like.

They are available free of charge to everyone. You order them online and they usually arrive the next days.

they come with seven tests in each box

Whilst they aren’t considered to be wholly accurate they seemingly err on the side of caution, so more likely to get a false positive than false negative.

if you get a positive using the lateral flow you isolate and arrange a PCR test

UK Government considering/trialling a system whereby if you get contacted by test and trace, instead of being told to isolate you take a test every day and if it’s clear you can carry on life as normal without imposed quarantine

[itsari]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 Yes, a complete Chinese-style lockdown will stop the spread.  But at what cost?  Personally, I don't want an already autocratic government to go down an even more dictatorial route, and I'm not even sure the Thai people would accept it!

I don't see the Thai government has many options left . Even if you opened all borders to whoever there would be little business from tourism . The covid slow down in Thailand really can not be blamed on the present self appointed government .

All they can do is try and contain the situation as it is now . Which is not that bad at the present time .

[ThailandRyan]

13 minutes ago, RR2020 said:

 

Its the real world.

 

Obese people are Obese.  

 

HIV positive are HIV positive.

 

Diabetics are Diabetics

 

Drug addicts are Drug addicts

 

 

Since when was it offensive to speak the truth about people ?????????  

Do you know anything about diabetes and how one becomes a diabetic, or maybe how someone became infected with HIV, other than your own pre-conceived ideas and notions.  I became a Diabetic after surgery, a triple neck fusion due to an accident, and the large amounts of steroids caused my pancreas to shut down, thereby making me a diabetic who is insulin dependent.  A co worker of mine who was on scene at an accident gave emergency medical treatment to a severely wounded and bleeding individual who also needed CPR, unfortunately at the time it was unknown that the induvial had Aids.  My coworker was splashed in the eyes with blood while performing CPR and after finding out the man he was working on had Aids he himself was tested and found to be HIV positive.  Since 1996 he has lived by using drug cocktails and therapies to keep from going into the final stages and dying.  Try and keep your views in regards to those with these medical issues deserving to become victims of Covid, spread by you or your friends, to your own inner voice.

Edited June 22, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[CANSIAM]

16 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Good luck to all and god speed.  Lets hope this experiment does not go pear shaped rather quickly with the new cases growing.

Is it safer here in Phuket after July 1 or should I head back to BKK ? 

[ThailandRyan]

 

3 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Is it safer here in Phuket after July 1 or should I head back to BKK ? 

You tell me, as I will be in BKK trying my best to avoid mass groups of people here, and I am sure you will be doing the same in Phuket, unless you like to go out and about where groups will be hanging out and drinking.  Just be safe like we are all trying to be.

[2 is 1]

3 minutes ago, CANSIAM said:

Is it safer here in Phuket after July 1 or should I head back to BKK ? 

Who knows!Maybe can tell something round July 15-20. Covid is in every place just protect yourself dosent matter where you are.

[bkk6060]

The folks that post: it mostly affects obese, multiple type diseased people, etc. are basically correct. So, just stay in shape, eat healthy, workout...  

Problem is, you are probably talking about 

50% of Thailand and 60 to 70% of western countries.

They are not some small limited group" it only affects these people" when in fact they are mostly the majority.

[wensiensheng]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The UK lockdown was quite strict back in Spring 2020 but not to the same extent as the Chinese version. However, unlike Australia and Thailand, the UK didn't close the borders! 

Well, you have moved away from the original point of contention which was: thailand could not do a house lockdown like the Chinese and no other country has done that.

 

I pointed out that the UK had a house lockdown in place during spring of this year. Not a “quite strict” lockdown as you nebulously state, but an actual house lockdown where people were only allowed out for essential purposes. Not walks in the park, not visiting family.

 

then you move on to waffling about borders, which was not the issue to which I was responding.

 

so, either prove that the UK did not have a house lockdown in the spring, or concede the point and move on and talk about borders and other stuff that you want to talk about.

Edited June 22, 2021 by wensiensheng

[wensiensheng]

46 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 Yes, a complete Chinese-style lockdown will stop the spread.  But at what cost?  Personally, I don't want an already autocratic government to go down an even more dictatorial route, and I'm not even sure the Thai people would accept it!

At what cost? Have you checked the Chinese GDP figures recently? Their economy can’t possibly be growing again can it?

[Rimmer]

Some misleading troll posts and replies removed

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Holding centres set up in Songkhla for asymptomatic COVID-19 cases as hospitals fill up

 

Two holding centres have been established in Jana and Ranot districts of Thailand’s southern province of Songkhla, to accommodate asymptomatic COVID-19 patients, as hospitals there are reaching capacity.

 

According to the disease control operation centre in Jana district, three villages in Ban Na sub-district have been locked down, after more than 100 villagers were found to be infected, with many others deemed to be at high risk and are waiting to be screened. A holding centre has been set up in the grounds of the Nurul Iman masjid, with a capacity to accommodate 80 people.

 

The other holding centre was set up in Tha Bon sub-district, of Ranot district, to accommodate asymptomatic cases from a canning factory, where 261 workers, out of about 1,000 already screened, have tested positive for the virus. The factory has almost 6,000 workers and many of them travel back and forth from their lodgings to the factory on daily basis.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/holding-centres-set-up-in-songkhla-for-asymptomatic-covid-19-cases-as-hospitals-fill-up/

That’s quite a concerning report. The positivity rates are quite staggering.

[anchadian]

Very sad story related to Covid-19:

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002321

[wensiensheng]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Schools in several provinces closed as COVID-19 infections re-emerge

Schools in several of Thailand’s provinces have been ordered to close, just a week after the start of the new school term, as a number of students have been found to be infected with COVID-19.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/schools-in-several-provinces-closed-as-covid-19-infections-re-emerge/

It was perhaps inevitable.

 

reading this report it just strikes me that the virus is now everywhere and in all walks of Thai life. It’s not just migrant camps and factory dorms and markets, it’s infiltrated every aspect of life in this country.

 

I fail to see how cases will not rise fairly rapidly from here, but just hope that it stays predominantly as the alpha variant. I don’t know how strict the authorities are being about dealing with the beta variant, but I hope it is very strict indeed.

[rott]

2 hours ago, itsari said:

The Chinese communist style restrictions did a good job of restricting the amount of deaths to there people from covid 19 .

What ever you think about the Chinese they acted quickly .

Hopefully the Thai government can do the same if the situation becomes worse .

They did have a very specific place to isolate. Shutting London down would not be so straightforward. 

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

The cabinet has approved the #PhuketSandbox plan for 1st July together with a backup plan in case there is a new outbreak. They also approved the Surat Thani Province plan for Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, and Koh Tao. Full details soon #PhuketReopening #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1407242593721749515

 

The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the reopening of Phuket on July 1 and three islands in Surat Thani on July 15.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002322

 

[wensiensheng]

4 minutes ago, rott said:

They did have a very specific place to isolate. Shutting London down would not be so straightforward. 

There are 11 million people in Wuhan. Assuming you are referring to that city, I don’t think it was that easy.

[anchadian]

Bangkok have only 20 beds left for #COVID19 critical patients, Somsak Akksilp, chief of the Department of Medical Services said Tuesday. He said the shortage was the result of the continuous rise in the number of new confirmed cases in the capital over the past two months. #KE

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1407269485170462723

[brewsterbudgen]

40 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Well, you have moved away from the original point of contention which was: thailand could not do a house lockdown like the Chinese and no other country has done that.

 

I pointed out that the UK had a house lockdown in place during spring of this year. Not a “quite strict” lockdown as you nebulously state, but an actual house lockdown where people were only allowed out for essential purposes. Not walks in the park, not visiting family.

 

then you move on to waffling about borders, which was not the issue to which I was responding.

 

so, either prove that the UK did not have a house lockdown in the spring, or concede the point and move on and talk about borders and other stuff that you want to talk about.

I was commenting on what other people had posted about Australia and the UK.  I'm well aware of how the UK handled it as I'm British and have a lot of family and friends there.  By not being as strict as the Chinese lockdown, I was referring to the way it was enforced.  People in the UK could still go to work for "essential reasons" and I don't believe that trips to the supermarket to buy food were restricted as they were in some Chinese cities.

[brewsterbudgen]

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok have only 20 beds left for #COVID19 critical patients, Somsak Akksilp, chief of the Department of Medical Services said Tuesday. He said the shortage was the result of the continuous rise in the number of new confirmed cases in the capital over the past two months. #KE

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1407269485170462723

Are those the 20 remaining beds in the photo?  I think I'd take my chances.

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok have only 20 beds left for #COVID19 critical patients, Somsak Akksilp, chief of the Department of Medical Services said Tuesday. He said the shortage was the result of the continuous rise in the number of new confirmed cases in the capital over the past two months. #KE

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1407269485170462723

Just walked back to our condo unit, and the soi we live next to just had two ambulances with everyone on board wearing the full PPE suits and a spray rig following stop and load two patients inside not far away from The corner of Rama 4 here in Sathon.  

[sapson]

11 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

reading this report it just strikes me that the virus is now everywhere and in all walks of Thai life. It’s not just migrant camps and factory dorms and markets, it’s infiltrated every aspect of life in this country.

 

 

 

its been that way from the onset why would it of been any different, the virus doesnt discriminate between migrant workers in a camp or thousands of kids at school or hundreds in shopping malls or boozers and pretties in a nightclub.

 

The negligent discouragement or only at the very last resort testing policy has allowed the virus to happily spread with the frankly laughable but sad charade that somehow Thailand had miraculously been virtually Covid free for almost a year.

 

Widespread nationwide testing ... all schools, teachers, factories, colleges etc etc etc not just Bangkok and its environs would give a true picture and highlight the urgent need to import enough vaccines for all now.!!.to give the people the care and protection they need asap.

 

To do this funds will have to be diverted from the troughs of the greedy few!

 

So never mind, sandbox it is........ open the country and let the fantasy continue until eventually it implodes.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok have only 20 beds left for #COVID19 critical patients, Somsak Akksilp, chief of the Department of Medical Services said Tuesday. He said the shortage was the result of the continuous rise in the number of new confirmed cases in the capital over the past two months. #KE

 

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1407269485170462723

Well here we have the first indications since they built the Field Hospitals that the health service is now struggling and we've a long way to go yet before these numbers get under control. Very worrying.

 

Last time this happened hospitals also stopped testing as there was nowhere to put positive patients, no doubt this will again happen.

Edited June 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[2 is 1]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Last time this happened hospitals also stopped testing as there was nowhere to put positive patients, no doubt this will again happen.

Soon officials need finaly take they head out from "sandbox" and isolate people in home!

Or the start to pile cardboardbeds in every street corner!

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Soon officials need finaly take they head out from "sandbox" and isolate people in home!

Or the start to pile cardboardbeds in every street corner!

The hospital shortages however are for critical patients the most important category that need specialist care

Edited June 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

They are going to edge their risk to 90 cases per week before pulling the plug. In other words let it spread again nicely first:

 

"For the past week, new cases in Phuket have only been single digits. Twenty eight in total. If it reaches 90 cases in one week, or multiple clusters, then the #PhuketSandbox could be cancelled or restricted"

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1407214747129323529

 

2 is a multiple of 1 so 2 clusters and that's it for the sandpit.

[anchadian]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

The hospital shortages however are for critical patients the most important category that need specialist care

Further reading from 

TNAMCOT

 

BANGKOK, June 22 (TNA) – The Department of Medical Services expressed its concern about available hospital beds for COVID-19 patients in Bangkok, especially seriously ill ones, vacant beds for whom were slightly available.

 

Dr Somsak Akasilp, director-general of the department, said daily new COVID-19 cases in Greater Bangkok had exceeded 1,000 for over two months and thus their bed demand was rising, especially regarding beds for red-coded patients dependent on ventilators and yellow patients who had moderate symptoms or needed special care.

 

On June 21, 409 red patients were at public hospitals and about 20 beds were available for people with this degree of illness. Meanwhile, 3,937 patients of the yellow group were at hospitals and only about 300 vacant beds remained available for them.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-722834