Thailand reports 4,108 new COVID-19 cases, 31 more deaths

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

How embarrassing, showing their complete ineptitude and lack of action on appropriate testing. Blue bar hospital walk ins, yellow, pro active testing

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/240664.pdf

It’s pretty scary tbh. Out of control springs to mind and I fear it’s only just started.

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

I noticed traffic in Pattaya had increased these last couple of days 

I was in yesterday and the Mrs went today, that will be it.

[2 is 1]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How embarrassing, showing their complete ineptitude and lack of action on appropriate testing. Blue bar hospital walk ins, yellow, pro active testing

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/240664.pdf

Its hospital walk ins record even they havent test all who want get tested!

[anchadian]

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by anchadian

[Golden Triangle]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

1,564 in ICU and 445 on ventilators

In my experience with this God awful disease if you get to the ventilator stage it's sayonara world.

[Bkk Brian]

Bangkok lockdown proposal not yet accepted due to economic concerns

Gen. Nattaphon said the “bubble-and-seal” approach will remain in use, but with stricter measures, with details to be discussed at a meeting today, while the lockdown proposal will remain “under consideration”.

 

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bangkok-lockdown-proposal-not-yet-accepted-due-to-economic-concerns/

[Golden Triangle]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rux6xO5aNOU&t=59s

 

Why does he even bother ? Yesterday it was all about the 'no doubt soon to be cancelled'

sandbox, today a load more guff about nothing, no mention of vaccines or the lack of, hospital beds or the lack of etc etc, hopeless bloody hopeless.

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

It’s pretty scary tbh. Out of control springs to mind and I fear it’s only just started.

Yes I agree, its got past the stage now of just being concerned, its now one of <deleted> !!

 

The vaccinations alone are not going to stop this, get real with the situation, face up to it now at least rather than constant cowering behind a facade too scared to take tough decisions.

[brewsterbudgen]

50 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

People being people, and paranoid about this Covid Outbreak, they will seek to run away from Bangkok now, as notice has basically been given of a Lockdown.

Many will not flee to the North East, or their home provinces, but will choose to flee to more " civilized " places such as Hua Hin, and Pattaya.

Although these City's have their share of Covid, it is nowhere near as bad as the Outbreak appears to be in BKK.

Moving from one populated metropolis to another will only spread the Disease, and make The likes of Pattaya and Hua Hin more infected.

The answer would have been to lock down Bangkok, and give zero notice of doing so, thus keeping the residents in situ.

 

As a Bangkok resident, I'm pleased that they have already rejected a Bangkok exclusive lockdown. For the time being anyway.

[Neal182]

Only the sick would go to hospital for a test. Sorry, no test. Go home. Get very sick. Die.. Not covid because not tested. Deaths figures are BS too. That's my view.

[dlclark97]

You think it's bad now!  Wait till two weeks after the Phuket Sandbox fiasco.  Might as well be another Songkran week.  Shift concentration to vaccinations.  Tourism will return after ALL of Thailand is FULLY vaccinated but not until.

[Danderman123]

40 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How embarrassing, showing their complete ineptitude and lack of action on appropriate testing. Blue bar hospital walk ins, yellow, pro active testing

https://media.thaigov.go.th/uploads/public_img/source/240664.pdf

 

The 2800 hospital walk in cases indicate worse numbers coming.

[Bkk Brian]

Sad news.............each death carries sadness for those close but this is tragic

 

Wat Rat Prakongtham's Facebook post about the cremation of a 33-year-old Covid-19 patient who was eight months into her pregnancy went viral on Wednesday.

 

The woman, who died in Mongkutwattana Hospital on Wednesday, was taken immediately to Wat Sao Thong Hin temple in Nonthaburi’s Bang Yai district for cremation.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002420

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The 2800 hospital walk in cases indicate worse numbers coming.

I agree, so long as the hospitals carry on testing adequately and the prediction by the doctors is that they are not, we will see. Otherwise it will carry on brewing until it explodes.

[sandyf]

4 hours ago, Pravda said:

Don't get sick in Thailand.

Nothing new there, that was being said long before we heard the word pandemic.

[koratkarlos]

Up here in Chiang Mai I see more and more people going out and not staying home.  Call in COVID fatigue or maybe the message that Thailand is opening up again.

And it appears that there is no vaccine available.  So the question is should I stay or should I go?

[Rhacsyn]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Opinion: Phuket sandbox is looking more and more like a dream

 

It is now less than a week before the launch of the Phuket Sandbox.

 

With over-the-top hype, months of promotion, endless guidelines and warning from every sector, the debate over its implementation and prosecution rages on.

 

But this week, it was revealed that the government has yet to provide a list of the so-called “low to medium” risk countries that will be allowed to enter Phuket.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28929/opinion-phuket-sandbox-is-looking-more-and-more-like-a-dream/

For what it's worth, the link (only in Thai) is updated daily and shows the low and medium risk countries in the left and centre colums for Thailand.

thailand-country-risk-categorisation.pdf

[sandyf]

4 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

they botched everything, but credit to them on vaccinations.

Exactly, and they had the credit to get into 7 different vaccine developments. Thailand does not have the resources to command the same level of credit to have got involved at the development stage.

Those that did took command of the market in vaccines for several months leaving many countries like Thailand out in the cold.

Vaccine is not a quick fix, just another weapon in the battle. It took about 4 months of the vaccination program for deaths in the UK to drop to the level we are seeing here which has been fairly steady for the last month or so.

[dinsdale]

The fact of the matter is, even with dodgy numbers, that this fool at the top who said he would take personal control of the covid/economy situation has failed miserably. Covid up/economy down and expect both to get worse. For my thoughts it can only be put down to one thing. Megalomania. The man is not fit or able to run a country. The Phuket thing is a farce. 1 week to go and surely people have booked their flights by now. Where are the numbers for flights booked? How many are coming in. The details must be known. Release the figures.

Edited June 24, 2021 by dinsdale

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

The difference is the UK can usually be relied upon for accurate reports.

Frank Carson come to mind.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Exactly, and they had the credit to get into 7 different vaccine developments. Thailand does not have the resources to command the same level of credit to have got involved at the development stage.

Those that did took command of the market in vaccines for several months leaving many countries like Thailand out in the cold.

Vaccine is not a quick fix, just another weapon in the battle. It took about 4 months of the vaccination program for deaths in the UK to drop to the level we are seeing here which has been fairly steady for the last month or so.

In December 2020, the Indian government offered to sell Thailand at least 1 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccines at cost. 

 

It had recently emerged that both Pfizer and Moderna asked the FDA to review their vaccines as early as late 2020. According to local media reports, Pfizer also offered to sell their jabs to the Ministry of Public Health in November of last year.

 

For some reason, the Thai government chose to rely on locally produced AstraZeneca and imported Sinovac Vaccine. It has been a disastrous decision with local AZ doses delayed and Sinovac Vaccines showing less than stellar real world results.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28599/four-decisions-thailand-got-wrong-in-its-covid-19-fight-so-far/

[sapson]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

may not reflect the real situation, as actual infections may be much higher.

The story of the last year, yet idiots believed the lying leeches fantasy figures even congratulating them on the crazy charade of the pandemic virtually bypassing Thailand!

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hospitals in Bangkok suspend COVID-19 tests as they run out of beds for the infected

Several hospitals in Bangkok have suspended PCR swab tests because they are concerned that, if some test positive for COVID-19, they will have no beds to accommodate them. Others have scaled down the service,

 

In his Facebook post today, Dr. Suppachok noted that, due to fewer swab tests being conducted at hospitals, the daily new infection rate, recorded at more than 4,000 cases in the past few days, may not reflect the real situation, as actual infections may be much higher.

 

He said that there are still patients arriving at the ER and several of them have developed lung infections, but no beds are available, adding that several other hospitals are experiencing the same problem.

He also pointed out that several field hospitals, in the Deep Red Zone, are operating and are even equipped with ventilators for severe cases “but the problem is finding doctors and nurses.”

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/hospitals-in-bangkok-suspend-covid-19-test-as-they-run-out-of-beds-for-the-infected/

 

Dejavu all over again, and this time it will be uglier I have a feeling.  No Beds, no tests, the community spread will be a major problem.  Time for the mobile testing trucks to be rolled out and more field hospitals set up.  Going to be a rough ride.  Stay safe folks.

[dinsdale]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

In December 2020, the Indian government offered to sell Thailand at least 1 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccines at cost. 

 

It had recently emerged that both Pfizer and Moderna asked the FDA to review their vaccines as early as late 2020. According to local media reports, Pfizer also offered to sell their jabs to the Ministry of Public Health in November of last year.

 

For some reason, the Thai government chose to rely on locally produced AstraZeneca and imported Sinovac Vaccine. It has been a disastrous decision with local AZ doses delayed and Sinovac Vaccines showing less than stellar real world results.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28599/four-decisions-thailand-got-wrong-in-its-covid-19-fight-so-far/

Underlined is tongue in cheek? I think we all know the reason/reasons.

[edwinchester]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

In December 2020, the Indian government offered to sell Thailand at least 1 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccines at cost. 

 

It had recently emerged that both Pfizer and Moderna asked the FDA to review their vaccines as early as late 2020. According to local media reports, Pfizer also offered to sell their jabs to the Ministry of Public Health in November of last year.

 

For some reason, the Thai government chose to rely on locally produced AstraZeneca and imported Sinovac Vaccine. It has been a disastrous decision with local AZ doses delayed and Sinovac Vaccines showing less than stellar real world results.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28599/four-decisions-thailand-got-wrong-in-its-covid-19-fight-so-far/

That link is thoroughly depressing reading...those in power and responsible for the gross mishandling of the whole sorry vaccine farce must be held accountable.

[meltonpie]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The UK numbers going up are due to the the newly arrived Delta variant. However yes I agree that they do have one of the most advanced vaccination roll outs in the world and are even implementing  its booster jabs for those most at risk in the following weeks. Great work being done by them now.

UK new cases are pretty much all Delta variant and indeed now 40+ cases of the new Delta+ variant.

Mostly now being found in non vaccinated 20-40 year old males, probably due to mixing in confined spaces watching football.

Fortunately hospitalisations aren’t yet growing at same pace.

It does however demonstrate that transmittability  occurs more readily.

If this gets a grip in countries with low levels of vaccination it could get seriously bad.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Bangkok lockdown proposal not yet accepted due to economic concerns

Gen. Nattaphon said the “bubble-and-seal” approach will remain in use, but with stricter measures, with details to be discussed at a meeting today, while the lockdown proposal will remain “under consideration”.

 

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/bangkok-lockdown-proposal-not-yet-accepted-due-to-economic-concerns/

Economic concerns should be the least of their worries.  How about folks dying outside of hospitals and Bangkok ending up looking like India. I guess money over health is what it comes down to because without money people will die anyways....ugh.

[orang37]

I'd like to see statistics on the percentage of new Delta variant cases by province/region... of course, given TIT, no one may be analyzing tests for Delta ...

 

.. and, if such data were available from a government source (where else ? the tooth fairy ?) ...

 

... one would need to apply the usual party-line fantasia-of-the-day filter.

Edited June 24, 2021 by orang37
memory recovered after alien abduction

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, orang37 said:

 

sources lol ?

Beta-variant cluster spreads to 12 provinces

 

A Beta variant cluster in Yala has led to 402 cases in 12 provinces, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Monday. The Beta strain of the virus was first identified in South Africa, where it has become the dominant variant.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28808/beta-variant-cluster-spreads-to-12-provinces/

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Economic concerns should be the least of their worries.  How about folks dying outside of hospitals and Bangkok ending up looking like India. I guess money over health is what it comes down to because without money people will die anyways....ugh.

It's a cost benefit analysis gamble and as long as the cost is poor people dying then the benefit is worth it. Downside to the gamble is total collapse of health system and economy.

Edited June 24, 2021 by dinsdale