22 minutes ago, meechai said:

Yes that is exactly what Pfizer recently told its shareholders...

That basically the future was bright because as always this Pandemic will move to Endemic at some point

 

Yearly boosters same as any Flu Shot for those that want it

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-price-hike-post-pandemic/

 

 

Its actually cheaper than Sinovac.

 

2 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Its actually cheaper than Sinovac.

 

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

26 minutes ago, wasabi said:

Maybe this is why Thailand has no visor big brother is blocking them just like they blocked Taiwan?

 

Reuters: Taiwan's Foxconn, TSMC confirm $350 mln COVID-19 vaccine deal.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwans-foxconn-tsmc-confirm-350-mln-covid-19-vaccine-deal-2021-07-11/

Probably not.  Thailand has a bad reputation for copyright violations.  There are more countries more suitable in Asia to produce Vaccines safely and without risk of corruption and copyright violations.

 

Vietnam has plans to produce either Moderna or Pfeizer.  

 

Foxconn in Taiwan is ready to go with few modifications.  Great.

6 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Its actually cheaper than Sinovac.

 

I dont think people are bothered about the cost, As long as it works 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

At least Pfeizer works.

 

AZ isn't much good with Delta and the manufacturer is constantly breaking down in Thailand.

 

Sinovac for free is still no good if doesn't work

 

SinoGarbage "Made in China" what did you expect?

Friends don’t let friends take SinoVac.

1 minute ago, MrJ2U said:

At least Pfeizer works.

 

AZ isn't much good with Delta and the manufacturer is constantly breaking down in Thailand.

 

Sinovac for free is still no good if doesn't work

 

Whatever the truth of your comments, they're hardly a defense for getting your facts wrong.

2 hours ago, PEE TEE said:

Only viruses they lead the world in that 

But the US leads the way in fraud and associated xxxx.

 

https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/largest-pharmaceutical-settlements-lawsuits/

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

An anonymous poster cites an alleged anonymous family member. Impressive.

What do you want? All their names and addresses?

4 hours ago, Andylongtime said:

Nothing made in China works

A few hundred million iPhone users might disagree with you.

3 minutes ago, bradiston said:

But the US leads the way in fraud and associated xxxx.

 

https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/largest-pharmaceutical-settlements-lawsuits/

Well, statistics like this aren't so much about the health system as they are about the legal system.

China actually has a scandalous recent history in regard to vaccines. One of the chief offenders was Sinovac.

 

Vaccine Scandals in China: Why Do They Keep Happening Over and Over Again?

https://www.asiapacific.ca/blog/vaccine-scandals-china-why-do-they-keep-happening-over-and

12 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

Thailand just paid 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine.

 

So Sinovac works out around Bt560 per shot ($17) 

 

 

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand just paid 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine.

 

So Sinovac works out around Bt560 per shot ($17) 

 

 

I guess that Sinovac is now taking advantage of it being a seller's market. And that's the most charitable explanation I can come up with. Others less savory do come to mind.

There are a multitude of factors at play here that make it utterly impossible to decipher these figures, which may be good, bad, or just as expected.

 

No vaccine is a magic bullet, and that goes for Pfizer et al, which last week earned a black label health warning, and also proved to be of much lower effectiveness than first thought.

 

We can say however that most vaccines (if not all) do a wonderful job of greatly reducing severe illness.

 

Also, definitely not the time or place (Thailand) to be picky.

618 out of 677,348 medical personnel who received two doses of Sinovac testing positive amounts to 0.09%. And what’s the false positive rate?

The Thai government ignored the sad results in Brazil for the Sinovac vaccine.  Asian pride requires the use of a Chinese vaccine.  While there is no magic bullet against Covid-19,  I refuse to take less than the best vaccine against it.  Right now that appears to be Moderna!

48 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

Some idea of vaccine cost from leaked document.

• AstraZeneca: €1.78
• Johnson & Johnson: US$8.50
• Sanofi/GlaxoSmithKline: €7.56
• Pfizer/BioNTech: €12.00
• Curevac: €10.00
• Moderna: US$18.00

Sinovac has been reported to be between $5 per dose, based on WHO figures and from manufacturer to $14 as reported in India. Reminds me of an old story about corruption in these southeast Asian countries - under the table, on the table and including the table. 

48 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I've seen price quote for Pfizer ranging from $15 to $20

Sinovac is a consistent $10.

On the other hand the AZ vaccine is priced at about $4

Probably right on that.

But its impossibly to know for sure without transparency.

 

The Sinovac deal looks shady.

An inflammatory/misleading post has been removed

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Some idea of vaccine cost from leaked document.

• AstraZeneca: €1.78
• Johnson & Johnson: US$8.50
• Sanofi/GlaxoSmithKline: €7.56
• Pfizer/BioNTech: €12.00
• Curevac: €10.00
• Moderna: US$18.00

Sinovac has been reported to be between $5 per dose, based on WHO figures and from manufacturer to $14 as reported in India. Reminds me of an old story about corruption in these southwast Asuan countries - under the table, on the table and including the table. 

Curevac is out of the picture.

Unfortunately only 48% efficiency  rate and didn't make the cut.

 

• Curevac: €10.00

48 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Whatever the truth of your comments, they're hardly a defense for getting your facts wrong.

Sinovac purchases made by Thailand aren't known.

I may be right.  

This appears to be happening in many countries. Is it just sinovac, the new strain or something else.

4 hours ago, Bundooman said:

Sounds more like your cousins have an axe to grind.

That is not the case in the UK.

you can, free of charge test yourself. The kits are readily available nationwide.

Maybe Scotland is the exception under the current 'misadministration' of the SDP

What has the situation here got to do with test kits in the uk?

Get a brain if you dont have the axe to grind.

41 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand just paid 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine.

 

So Sinovac works out around Bt560 per shot ($17) 

 

 

Ouch.  Thats pricey for garbage.

 

This doesn't include the usual padding the price for distribution.

 

 

4 hours ago, Andylongtime said:

Nothing made in China works

Dam I'll cancel my Land Rover. 

5 hours ago, Andylongtime said:

Nothing made in China works

The Covid 19 virus did ! ???? 

...

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Well, statistics like this aren't so much about the health system as they are about the legal system.

China actually has a scandalous recent history in regard to vaccines. One of the chief offenders was Sinovac.

 

Vaccine Scandals in China: Why Do They Keep Happening Over and Over Again?

https://www.asiapacific.ca/blog/vaccine-scandals-china-why-do-they-keep-happening-over-and

Their drugs were mis and/or overprescribed in millions of cases, encouraged no doubt by the manufacturers. All this China bashing comes at a cost. Ignore what's happening in your own back yard. Opioid addiction, contaminated blood transfusion, cocaine. It's so easy to point the finger at China when you have so many problems back home.

7 hours ago, fusion58 said:

"Sinovac sucks."

 

 - A member of my immediate family who is also one of the U.S. Army's top infectious disease and virology specialists.

Was he/she in the U.S. Army tea that competed in the Military World Games in Wuhan in October 2019?

 

https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1094347/world-military-games-illness-covid-19