Thailand reports another record high of 14,575 coronavirus cases and 114 deaths

[sapson]

21 minutes ago, smedly said:

33 minutes ago, sapson said:

Has anyone managed to buy a Covid test kit from their local pharmacy yet? they were said to be available this week but I havent seen any at the moment.

as I keep saying - I would rather buy a test kit that told me if I had already had the virus - I don't need a test kit to tell if I have it

We are all different, I can get a cheap antibody test at local lab to see if I already had the virus.

 

Now I would like an antigen test and was enquiring about their availability as a role out at pharmacies was indicated for this week.

[clivebaxter]

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thailand’s ‘Fed-up Doctors’ group is demanding the country switch to mRNA vaccines amid reports that even medics double vaccinated with the Chinese-made jab are being infected with the Delta variant of the coronavirus

 

Health care workers have been angered by a leaked memo showing experts fear giving doctors Pfizer jabs donated by the United States could undermine confidence in Sinovac

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3140979/coronavirus-thai-doctors-want-pfizer-vaccines-amid

Not possible to undermine any confidence in Sinovac, nobody has confidence in it now

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Wonder what kind of services those are ???? 

first class

[ThailandRyan]

20 minutes ago, champers said:

The Lombardy, Italy, syndrome from Spring 2020. Triage is basically on the basis of "live or die". A truly dreadful state of affairs and a nightmare scenario for doctors and nurses whose own lives are at serious risk on a daily basis. 

Things will get worse before they get better.

Sad reality and a timeframe one wishes we were not in. This has also just barely started to escalate as we can see and if what this is saying in regards to ventilators we are indeed in a bad situation. Stay safe, protect your families and loved ones folks. 

[anchadian]

3 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:

Not possible to undermine any confidence in Sinovac, nobody has confidence in it now

Apart from the Thai government whom I believe have been fully vaccinated with AZ.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Surely you didn't think it's cheap to import cheap vaccines through government offices, did you?

 

If I've got this right AZ is cheaper and works better so they went with the expensive one that doesn't work as well?

[DrJack54]

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Apart from the Thai government whom I believe have been fully vaccinated with AZ.

Didn't the PM baulk at his first jab.

Perhaps brand he didn't like? 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, The Cipher said:

 

Cognitive dissonance re: Covid data is intense around here. Anything showing a decline is dismissed as "the numbers are undercounted" where as anything showing an increase in pandemic severity is accepted as de-facto correct. One might call it a pandemic of confirmation bias.

 

Additionally, factionalization on AseanNow has obviously occurred as well, and entrenched positions on the Covid issue have subtly become internalized into the identities of several core posters here. Not really helpful in the search for truth and context.

 

 

No. Just no. Numbers are undercounted be it a decrease or increase. Testing numbers in Thailand are so low numbers cannot be taken at face value either way...

Edited July 23, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comments removed

[smedly]

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If I've got this right AZ is cheaper and works better so they went with the expensive one that doesn't work as well?

but more flexible accounting

[FarFlungFalang]

26 minutes ago, sapson said:

We are all different, I can get a cheap antibody test at local lab to see if I already had the virus.

 

Now I would like an antigen test and was enquiring about their availability as a role out at pharmacies was indicated for this week.

Did you get the antibody test?Do you know if the antibody tests are widely available?

[ABCbangkok]

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/international/40003639

Thailand’s mortality is less than 1% (0.82%). 

 

Hmmm ????. You don’t think the government is fudging the numbers a bit, do you? That would be dishonest! 

Edited July 23, 2021 by ABCbangkok

[anchadian]

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) has revealed that Phang Nga and Krabi provinces are preparing to welcome foreign tourists back under the "Andaman Sandbox” scheme, which is scheduled to launch on August 1, 2021.

Read more: https://facebook.com/130075662049/posts/10158155438027050/…

 

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Different vaccine, mRNA versus AZ. Also more older people in the US may have refused vaccines. They contribute more towards hospitalizations.

 

Both help explain the difference.

The suggested effectiveness of mRNA against hospitalization is 96% vs AZ 92%.

 

This delta would hardly help explain the difference.

 

That 40% of those in hospital in the UK are vaccinated, goes against what I have been told about vaccine effectiveness.

 

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Edited July 23, 2021 by LosLobo

[anchadian]

With COVID-19 shots reaching billions of people, reports have grown more common of people being infected with the coronavirus despite being vaccinated. Just as a natural infection does not guarantee protection from reinfection with the virus, neither does immunisation provide a perfect shield, according to Bloomberg.

 

Still, those who have immunity – either from vaccination or infection – carry a fraction of the risk of those who have none. Breakthrough cases among the immunised are a reminder that as long as the pandemic virus is prevalent in the world, it remains a threat to everyone, Bloomberg said.

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158157327767050

Edited July 23, 2021 by anchadian

[anchadian]

TIMELINE: Pattaya and Banglamung informs residents who visited places in relation to the most recent Covid -19 confirmed cases

 

List of places here:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/23/timeline-pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-the-most-recent-covid-19-confirmed-cases/

 

[anchadian]

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 37: 322,488

DAY 38: 303,036

DAY 39: 289,998

DAY 40: 307,134

DAY 41: 93,273 <— Saturday

DAY 42: 74,834 <— Sunday

DAY 43: 248,648

DAY 44: 257,876

DAY 45: 279,576

DAY 46: 304,243

 

TOTAL: 11,288,418 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1418435958530138117

 

[anchadian]

The travel restriction will take effect from Sunday and run to the end of July. The Philippines has previously banned travellers from eight countries including Indonesia and India. Read more: https://thaipbsworld.com/philippines-to-bar-travel-from-malaysia-thailand-to-curb-deltas-spread/…

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

The suggested effectiveness of mRNA is 96% vs AZ 92%.

 

This delta would hardly  help explain the difference.

 

That 40% of those in hospital in the UK are vaccinated, goes against what I have been told about vaccine effectiveness.

 

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

In addition the UK originally ordered 100 million of AZ and the same amount 100 million of Pfizer vaccines, thats why the UK are also able to include Pfizer in its real life studies

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, The Cipher said:

 

Cognitive dissonance re: Covid data is intense around here. Anything showing a decline is dismissed as "the numbers are undercounted" where as anything showing an increase in pandemic severity is accepted as de-facto correct. One might call it a pandemic of confirmation bias.

 

Additionally, factionalization on AseanNow has obviously occurred as well, and entrenched positions on the Covid issue have subtly become internalized into the identities of several core posters here. Not really helpful in the search for truth and context.

 

 

Ok. So that I can try and keep an open mind, can you post some links to articles that confirm that the steep bell graph for India tells the whole story?

 

I mean, it’s a huge success story to see cases rise so quickly and then fall just as quickly. So there must be articles on it,  not least because every country in the world would like a falling case chart like that. So there should be some very good lessons to be learned. I for one am happy to learn about them, because although I am not a Covid skeptic, I’m happy to receive information that adds to my knowledge.

 

so, to be practical, what did India do that Thailand should also now do, so that Thailand’s cases fall as quickly as India’s has done?

[Marvin Hagler]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

 

560b per dose

I had a dose for 1,000thb once on Soi 6

[wensiensheng]

43 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Didn't the PM baulk at his first jab.

Perhaps brand he didn't like? 

I don’t think so. If I recall he was due to get AZ, but then heard about blood clots so delayed a bit, but then went ahead with AZ anyway.

[anchadian]

The latest map for #Thailand shows every province has at least one #COVID19 case today. Three provinces (green) have 1-10 cases, 24 provinces (yellow) have 11-50 cases, 12 provinces (orange) have 51-100 cases and 38 provinces (red) have more than 100 cases.

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1418441900000878599

 

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Are you 100% confident that you will be able to obtain AZ for your second shot in the required time frame?

 

I wouldn't be completely confident. Possible on offer sinovac or nothing.

I suppose anything is possible but I regard that as a pretty remote possibility.

[Taboo2]

3 hours ago, MikeyIdea said:

Ventilators withheld for certain patients. Very sad development but Thailand is in good company. Sweden was even worse. They took a political decision to prioritize people still contributing to society, verbal orders to retirement homes to not send elderly in need of hospital care to hospitals. Verbal orders only of course but some were so appalled by it that they refused to keep quiet. 

 

That's what happens when health care systems are near collapse. That's the main reason why lockdowns are crucial. And we're just at the beginning of it in Thailand ???? 

Logan's Run.....is coming!

[gk10012001]

If all these new case figures are true, then by the number of new arrivals, clearly can not be due to any newly entering travelers.  If so, then why keep blaming incoming tourists or expats or other travelers, that have tested negative prior to travel, have all sorts of mandatory COVID insurance, and could all be vaccinated prior to travel if required to do so?

[ABCbangkok]

2 hours ago, The Cipher said:

 

... One might call it a pandemic of confirmation bias.

 

There ain’t no real pandemic? Just billions of people confirming a bias? Whew! What a relief to find this out!

 

 

Edited July 23, 2021 by ABCbangkok

[anchadian]

If you haven’t watched it already, can I recommend watching the panel discussion hosted by

@FCCThai

and

@pakhead

last night on “Thailand’s Vaccine Strategy: What went wrong?” You can watch on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/EpsYMPfH8KQ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418442985671331841

 

Edited July 23, 2021 by anchadian

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

For travelers caught out in other Thailand cities by this week's shutdown of domestic air travel into and out of Bangkok, Nok Air starting tomorrow/Saturday is launching a series of alternate domestic flights into and out of the U-Tapao International Airport in unrestricted Rayong, with the airport located right on the edge of Chonburi.

 

The destination cities that Nok will be flying to daily from U-Tapao between July 24 and July 31 are Phuket, Chiang Mai, Udon Thani, Ubon Ratchathani, Sakon Nakhon and Nakhon Si Thammarat. The theory is that people who need to travel into or out of Bangkok can arrange ground transportation between Rayong and Bangkok to complete their trips.

 

The move is kind of a replay of late 2008 when, because of anti-government protests at the time, U-Tapao briefly served as the main airport for Bangkok due to protests at the other airports, including the temporary siege of and then closure of Suvarnabhumi Airport.

 

From Nok via Google Translate:

 

"Nok Air opens U-Tapao Air Base Connecting the North, Northeast, South for those who need to travel, transport organs, equipment and medical personnel that are urgently needed. Starting to fly on Saturday, July 24, 2021, you can reserve your seat today via www.nokair.com or call 1318

 

Nok Air understands the need for air transport in times of crisis....

 

The service is available under strict hygiene and disease control measures set by the relevant agencies, such as “Social Distance Seats” for all seats, HEPA air filtration systems and passenger screening measures according to the requirements of each province, etc."

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nokairlines/posts/4147090258659582

 

https://www.thainewsreports.com/2021/07/23/nok-air-to-fly-from-u-tapao-airport-to-6-destinations-in-thailand-including-phuket/

 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

If all these new case figures are true, then by the number of new arrivals, clearly can not be due to any newly entering travelers.  If so, then why keep blaming incoming tourists or expats or other travelers, that have tested negative prior to travel, have all sorts of mandatory COVID insurance, and could all be vaccinated prior to travel if required to do so?

I think you might be a tad confused.  No one is blaming the tourists for the numbers Thailand has.  The only issue are in the Sandbox and Samui+ locations where vaccinated tourists who have tested positive have been whisked off to hospitals and those with them taken to quarantine locations.

[anchadian]

#COVID19 update in #Thailand on Friday :

 

Since 1 April

438,844 people infected (+13 imported and +14,562 local)

3,717 dead +114

143,744 in care

3,984 in ICU and 900 on ventilators

7,775 discharged from care

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418444327072657409