Why should I inject a vaccine that could kill me when I have no risk to be sick with covid ? A Thai boy told me, what can I reply him to push for vaccination ?

[salsajapan]

27 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

I wouldn't bother.  Vaccines haven't been approved for children.

Only 18 and over.

 

He'll be older and wiser by the time he's able to get vaccinated in Thailand.

 

so wrong, they started vaccinating kids all over the world !

 

[Artisi]

45 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Tell him Thai girls get the 'hots' for boys that have been vaccinated - apparently, it makes their willy bigger.....

how many injections are allowed each month????

[MrJ2U]

1 minute ago, salsajapan said:

 

so wrong, they started vaccinating kids all over the world !

 

Not in Thailand.

You are right though some countries are vaccinating kids 12-18.

 

 

[Artisi]

2 minutes ago, salsajapan said:

Are they stupid just because they think different than the masses ? or because unlike the massed they are able to think ?

 

when the leader of the so called centre of the world promoted bleach as a cure and described it as just like a common cold - seemed "unlike the masses" believed it , and what was the result ?

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, samtab said:

Can I ask you what I can reply him to push for vaccination please ?

Why, just ignore the situation. If he gets COVID he will likely be just fine anyway. If not then that's also not a problem, not for you anyway.

[Phoenix Rising]

9 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Why, just ignore the situation. If he gets COVID he will likely be just fine anyway. If not then that's also not a problem, not for you anyway.

Except for the fact that even asymptomatic persons can infect others.

[3NUMBAS]

hes got more chance of winning the lotery than get sick from a jab tell him

[Airalee]

Have you ever been able to convince a Thai to change their mind about anything?

 

Hard enough just trying to get them to try a new cuisine.

[bluezircon]

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

hes got more chance of winning the lotery than get sick from a jab tell him

Well, chances of feeling sick and having mild side effects are pretty common especially with younger people. If you meant dying less likely than winning lottery then it's a valid point.

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 hours ago, fishtank said:

Don't bother.

You can't fix stupid.

And there seems to be an abundance of "new members"  who  live in stupid at the moment.

[Rampant Rabbit]

37 minutes ago, salsajapan said:

This Thai boy is smart and knows a lot more than most old foreigners in this country !

I support him and will also never vaccinate !

People who do not want to die just have to protect themselves !

Do you know anybody smart who got covid ? I DON'T ! All people that I know who got covid didn't do half of the correct things to protect themselves.

Happy to find some smart Thai people !

 

 

Yeah right, thatll  be  all those smart Thais wearing crash helmets  eh, I mean what did crash helmets ever do for anyone........right

[sucit]

I would not reply at all. He sounds like he is doing perfectly fine without your help. 

[sucit]

3 hours ago, fishtank said:

Don't bother.

You can't fix stupid.

The stupid people are actually the ones thinking they know the long term effects of a new vaccine.

 

Nobody knows. Fact. Get it through your heads. This is not a long term, proven vaccine. When it does become proven in a decade or so, feel free to spout off and call people stupid all you want. 

[wprime]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

 

CDC has stats on deaths by age.

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[sezze]

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

I wouldn't bother.  Vaccines haven't been approved for children.

Only 18 and over.

 

He'll be older and wiser by the time he's able to get vaccinated in Thailand.

In Thailand maybe , in my country they vaccinating +12y old . 12-16 is own initiative , 16 and up get invitation. 

 

On topic , vaccinating makes you also less sick and faster recovered , and also makes chance less that you give it to other who might die . And also , the sooner this 1 goes away the higher the chance everything going to be back to normal , tourism would be able to return , less chance of dying of poverty .

[sungod]

Condoms and crash helmets....

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Except for the fact that even asymptomatic persons can infect others.

Is that right?

 

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55 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Is that right?

 

Yes it is:

Asymptomatic coronavirus infections contribute to over 50% of spread, according to UChicago study

Asymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 contributed significantly to community spread in New York City during the initial phase of the pandemic, according to a new paper from a team of researchers at the University of Chicago. The research, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on February 10, reinforces the continued importance for all people, regardless of symptom status, to follow public health guidance to curb spread of the coronavirus.
In the first mathematical model to incorporate data on daily changes in testing capacity, the research team found that only 14% to 20% of COVID-19 individuals showed symptoms of the disease and that more than 50% of community transmission was from asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic cases.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/asymptomatic-coronavirus-infections-contribute-to-over-50-percent-of-spread

 

 

[cdemundo]

 

On 7/28/2021 at 5:49 PM, ukrules said:

On 7/28/2021 at 4:09 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

Except for the fact that even asymptomatic persons can infect others.

 

 

That is the main reason why COVID has been so hard to control.

SARS showed symptoms immediately and was possible to track, trace and isolate.

That is why it was limited in it's spread and COVID is not.

 

"According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a total of 8,098 people worldwide became sick with SARS during the 2003 outbreak. Of these, 774 died."

https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/fs-sars.html

[tonray]

11 hours ago, simon43 said:

Tell him Thai girls get the 'hots' for boys that have been vaccinated - apparently, it makes their willy bigger.....

Is that why they're called booster shots ?

[tonray]

9 hours ago, sucit said:

The stupid people are actually the ones thinking they know the long term effects of a new vaccine.

 

Nobody knows. Fact. Get it through your heads. This is not a long term, proven vaccine. When it does become proven in a decade or so, feel free to spout off and call people stupid all you want. 

In a decade you might be remembered at a 10 year memorial service.

[smylee52]

In a country where they ride motorbikes without wearing helmets ,drive cars without putting on their seatbelts and  pile the extended family into the open box of the pick up  truck  the notion of prevention is not widely accepted . If you want him to get the jab offer him a thousand baht . 

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17 hours ago, sucit said:

The stupid people are actually the ones thinking they know the long term effects of a new vaccine.

 

Nobody knows. Fact. Get it through your heads. This is not a long term, proven vaccine. When it does become proven in a decade or so, feel free to spout off and call people stupid all you want. 

Actually, the stupid people are those who discount the long term effects of covid. 

[salsajapan]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the stupid people are those who discount the long term effects of covid. 

 

Are you sure that the real real stupid ones are the ones who are not able to protect from a virus by just wearing a mask and washing hands ?

 

Why people who do not get it are considered as exceptions ? In a country of 70 millions people, when only 7 millions people get covid, who are the idiots ? the ones who got it or the 63 millions who didn't get it ?

 

In this world people have such a weird way of thinking... if I get covid I will consider myself as an idiot, and everybody should think exactly the same way, because this is what I would be !

 

 

 

 

[Heng]

Plenty of Youtube videos of people sharing their Covid experiences/being treated while on a ventilator.   Surely they aren't all paid actors (as the antivax crowd might believe).      

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, salsajapan said:

 

Are you sure that the real real stupid ones are the ones who are not able to protect from a virus by just wearing a mask and washing hands ?

 

Why people who do not get it are considered as exceptions ? In a country of 70 millions people, when only 7 millions people get covid, who are the idiots ? the ones who got it or the 63 millions who didn't get it ?

 

In this world people have such a weird way of thinking... if I get covid I will consider myself as an idiot, and everybody should think exactly the same way, because this is what I would be !

Wearing a mask reduces one's odds of catching covid. But they actually are more protective of the mask wearer passing it on to others. And washing hands and other measures may improve yours chances of not catching it, but they don't eliminate the risk entirely. And not everyone can afford to avoid situations where it's more likely one can be infected with covid.

[Kevin Taylor]

The kid is right, not sure where the age cutoff is but there is one  where the vaccine is more dangerous to the young than covid. We are supposed to be the responsible adults here. If everyone in danger are vaccinated that's it, they have protection, the kid already has protection via a kids immune system. Don't force children to take unnecessary risks so old people can feel safer.

[salsajapan]

So smart boy, a lot smarter than 40000 foreigners queuing to get infected by a jab...

 

[billd766]

On 7/29/2021 at 2:24 AM, tonray said:

In a decade you might be remembered at a 10 year memorial service.

OTOH he might well be correct, and you and many others could be wrong.