Thai farmers worry as Chinese-Laos high speed trains bring competing produce from China

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By Erich Parpart

 

Thai farmers and farm cooperatives are calling for the government to conduct diplomatic talks with China to solve the increase of non-tariff barriers on Thai fresh food products.

 

Fresh products from China are also flooding the country via the China-Laos rail way but Thai traders cannot send anything.

 

“The current situation is the worst its been in 20 years,” Sunchai Puranachaikere, The President of Thai Fresh Fruit Traders and Exporters Association, told Thai Enquirer on Monday.

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/35767/thai-farmers-worry-as-chinese-laos-high-speed-trains-bring-competing-produce-from-china/

 

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[freedomnow]

Haha of course - and there is an explicit current now to pivot away

even more from non-Chinese produced goods for consumption in China.

 

 

[mokwit]

You'd think the Belt and Road everyone else is borrowing money to pay for had one beneficiary and one lender (OBOL).

[ezzra]

The more the merrier i say, now when i go to the local open markets fresh produce have gone up and you ask why and the answer is Covid Covid, so let the competition begin...

[RJRS1301]

Well it is obvious with the CCP supplying the finance, rolling stock, etc that they were doing not doing it from their generous hearts.

Belt and Road is a well thought through project across the globe to bring other economies under the the control of the "benefactor" state. 

 

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, freedomnow said:

Haha of course - and there is an explicit current now to pivot away

even more from non-Chinese produced goods for consumption in China.

 

 

Wonder how that is going to work?

[Geoffggi]

At last there is a blink in the eye of the Thai farmers realising they have been sold down the river ..................

[Albert Zweistein]

Just go on hugging the Chinese, they are your brothers remember ?

[phetphet]

I avoid Chinese "fresh" produce when I go to the supermarket. Quality doesn't seem that great.

[Nicholas Paul KNIGHT]

31 minutes ago, Albert Zweistein said:

Just go on hugging the Chinese, they are your brothers remember ?

Actually histoprically they could well be your ancestors as well. okay some 15000 tears ago but still ancestors 

[MasterBaker]

speedy delivery of produce? are you kidding me?

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai farmers and farm cooperatives are calling for the government to conduct diplomatic talks with China to solve the increase of non-tariff barriers on Thai fresh food products.

Welcome to free trade... not Thai style.

 

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

The more the merrier i say, now when i go to the local open markets fresh produce have gone up and you ask why and the answer is Covid Covid, so let the competition begin...

Thais don't like competition.

[klauskunkel]

Highspeed Trains to transport produce? Does that make financial sense?

Well, I guess if the trains are empty, fill them with carrots...

[spidermike007]

China is the ultimate one way street. Everything goes out. Little comes in without the participation of the heinous CCP. We need to figure out a way to just say NO! 

[sirineou]

I hope we get some decent beefsteak tomatoes. 

    I want to make stuffed tomatoes and Peppers. Arroy mak mak

I may also reduce the wait time for items ordered from China. 

Competition is always good for the consumer. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by sirineou

[Hanuman2547]

Today its produce.  Tomorrow will probably be other agricultural products.  Later, consumer durable goods.  Then you will have a whole nation singing/crying the blues.

[Sydebolle]

"Thai farmers worry as Chinese-Laos high speed trains bring competing produce..."

Not only the farmers, the entire country will be facing the music anytime soon. Having being "protected" by governments and Phuyays for generations will backfire anytime soon as Khon Thai is not semi-divine but rather two generations behind all the rest. 

Once this coronaphobia is under control you will see that in agriculture, tourism and assembly, foreign languages, international trade laws and free competition is definitely very far behind already. The absence of any decent education - responsibility of the government - resulted in overpriced underqualified labour force to the benefit - of the same government crooks. 

Good luck Thailand, embrace the nippier weather outside Thailand as there is no way around it. 

[Orinoco]

2 hours ago, Nicholas Paul KNIGHT said:

Actually histoprically they could well be your ancestors as well. okay some 15000 tears ago but still ancestors 

We in the uk had an ambassador on this very subject for many years. LOL.

 

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

China is the ultimate one way street. Everything goes out. Little comes in without the participation of the heinous CCP. We need to figure out a way to just say NO! 

I would rather see prices fall in competition, instead of the just the Thai price.

Just wondering though if Thais will but the produce at wholesale markets and jack-up the price?

How will Chinese keeps the price reduction all the way to the street?

[Eric Loh]

I think most are reading this wrong and fault lies with the misleading headline. This article is not about competition coming in from China but rather the rather sudden change to the import process that is holding up importation of produce from Thailand. It's about the new China import rules that are creating headaches from Thai produce to European coffee. 

[oslooskar]

3 hours ago, phetphet said:

I avoid Chinese "fresh" produce when I go to the supermarket. Quality doesn't seem that great.

I've personally found their frozen fruit to be tasteless and avoid buying it.

[heybuz]

1 hour ago, Orinoco said:

We in the uk had an ambassador on this very subject for many years. LOL.

 

IS that steptoe,spittin image.

 

[Skypirate]

Come on...U got be kidding me.  The Chinese shell out BIG Baht for a high speed train, and then You think they want underprice their imported wares in competition with Thai and Lao goods.   Just because their Belt and Hose-job  initiative has raped multiple poverty stricken Countries, the Thai farmers would think that the Chinese would do the same to them?

[connda]

Well farmers.  Get your foot-dragging government to complete their end of the HS rail line and then you can flood China and other BRI connection points with your products.

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

The more the merrier i say, now when i go to the local open markets fresh produce have gone up and you ask why and the answer is Covid Covid, so let the competition begin...

Competition within any sector of Industry is really good.

The best will always rise to the top, and give consumers what they need at a realistic price, and often with added value.

The prices on Veggies rise every Year about this time, just as Tourists arrive ( historically ), but this Year the Tourists are not in Thailand in any great number, so therefore the Market is smaller and more competitive.

The Thai Farmers need to get into the real world, and start producing at realistic costs to remain in the game, and not to just plant and forget.

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

7 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Competition within any sector of Industry is really good.

The best will always rise to the top, and give consumers what they need at a realistic price, and often with added value.

The prices on Veggies rise every Year about this time, just as Tourists arrive ( historically ), but this Year the Tourists are not in Thailand in any great number, so therefore the Market is smaller and more competitive.

The Thai Farmers need to get into the real world, and start producing at realistic costs to remain in the game, and not to just plant and forget.

 

The cheapest usually becomes the most popular and prominent .

   Which means a decline in profits for farmers , some farmers in Thailand now just about break even and some have even stopped farming due to it being non profitable

[bbko]

Surely the train cars returning to China won't be empty, so what will they be filled with?

[placnx]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

China is the ultimate one way street. Everything goes out. Little comes in without the participation of the heinous CCP. We need to figure out a way to just say NO! 

Especially to fentanyl.

[placnx]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Well farmers.  Get your foot-dragging government to complete their end of the HS rail line and then you can flood China and other BRI connection points with your products.

You must be kidding. There will surely be some quality issue that blocks competing imports.