Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[beautifulthailand99]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO no one with sense "signs up" unless they think they will be on the winning side. Seems that Ukrainian men have the opinion they will not be winning.

In this event, it's normal to introduce conscription. Is it significant that Zelensky has of now not done so? Perhaps he fears a revolt from the populace, like happened in the US over Vietnam, or worse.

 

Whatever, if he can't convince Ukrainians to go fight, the end can't be too far off.

Maybe these Ukrainians should see their supporters here and see if they will step up to the plate. I see Zelenskiy has sacked another long term ally with no reason given, but he did diss the Chinese.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/zelenskyy-yanks-outspoken-security-council-boss-appoints-spy-chief-in-his-stead/

 

Danilov’s firing came after he expressively criticized Chinese Special Representative for Eurasian Affairs Li Hui, as well as a Chinese peace initiative, on air during a Ukrainian national telethon.

“As for Li Hui, I want to remind everyone: No one will decide our fate but us,” Danilov said on March 19. “I don’t understand who can trade our territories, our lands like that. Because some Hui, I’m sorry, or whatever his last name is, or someone else think they should decide it.”

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I see Zelenskiy has sacked another long term ally with no reason given, but he did diss the Chinese.

Desperate men do desperate things and Zelensky must be a very desperate man by now.

Perhaps Zelensky is sending all his loot to China and intends to follow it. A guy like that could become an advisor to Xi, on how not to run a war.

[Wobblybob]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO no one with sense "signs up" unless they think they will be on the winning side. Seems that Ukrainian men have the opinion they will not be winning.

In this event, it's normal to introduce conscription. Is it significant that Zelensky has of now not done so? Perhaps he fears a revolt from the populace, like happened in the US over Vietnam, or worse.

 

Whatever, if he can't convince Ukrainians to go fight, the end can't be too far off.

Get away with spreading misinformation by using expressions like "IMO" and "seems that". Facts usually work better on a forum! 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 3/26/2024 at 1:05 PM, Mavideol said:

Attack could be linked to 'neo-Nazi' Kyiv, Putin says

https://au.yahoo.com/news/attack-could-linked-neo-nazi-202119321.html

 

Now, unsurprisingly enough, the Russians are claiming US and UK involvement.

 

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The United States, Britain and Ukraine are behind the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall, the chief of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) Alexander Bortnikov has told the media.

 

US, Britain, Ukraine behind Crocus City Hall attack — FSB chief

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

 

Now, unsurprisingly enough, the Russians are claiming US and UK involvement.

 

 

US, Britain, Ukraine behind Crocus City Hall attack — FSB chief

the latest one it's a funny one, Putin ally is contradicting him 555

Lukashenko contradicts Putin’s claims about Moscow attackers fleeing to Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/lukashenko-contradicts-putin-claims-moscow-214834368.html

 

[Mavideol]

the same old propaganda/treats from Medveded

Missiles Fired at Kyiv as Moscow Threatens Terror Reprisals Against the Wrong People

https://au.yahoo.com/news/missiles-fired-kyiv-moscow-threatens-145930988.html

[Mavideol]

everyday we found out what many people can/will do for some.... Indians, Nepalese, Chinese, Africans and BRITS, who have thought 555

Brits fighting for Russia in Ukraine should be arrested and jailed, says ex-Army chief

https://au.yahoo.com/news/brits-fighting-russia-ukraine-arrested-081515986.html

[beautifulthailand99]

3 hours ago, Mavideol said:

everyday we found out what many people can/will do for some.... Indians, Nepalese, Chinese, Africans and BRITS, who have thought 555

Brits fighting for Russia in Ukraine should be arrested and jailed, says ex-Army chief

https://au.yahoo.com/news/brits-fighting-russia-ukraine-arrested-081515986.html

 

If my memory serves me right, the Wagner Group has 450 Russian ex French Foreign Legion vets working for them and even more Ukrainians left to join the Ukraine forces. They bring battle hardened NATO strength training and are some of the best. These Brits look like some pathetic malcontents that are employed for propaganda purposes rather than any military skills they probably don't have. If they don't die in Russia, then I'm not sure why wasting money on incarcerating them at huge public expense would serve if they ever come back.

 

Wagner is the ultimate mercenary army - full of psychopathic soldiers who love war and get to share in some of the treasure they plunder for their bosses, and it looks like they have survived the offing of their founder and CiC. Who can forget his expletive filmed rant against Shoigiu and Gerasimov that was a step on the way to him getting his just desserts. Russia is indeed a mafia state but there's only room for one Godfather.

 

‘We were brothers in the Legion. Now we fight each other in Ukraine’
Men who once stood shoulder-to-shoulder in the French Foreign Legion have found themselves on opposite sides after the Russian invasion, writes Anthony Loyd in Kyiv

 

https://archive.is/KJjBm

 

 

[tgw]

6 hours ago, Mavideol said:

everyday we found out what many people can/will do for some.... Indians, Nepalese, Chinese, Africans and BRITS, who have thought 555

Brits fighting for Russia in Ukraine should be arrested and jailed, says ex-Army chief

https://au.yahoo.com/news/brits-fighting-russia-ukraine-arrested-081515986.html

 

the same guys?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps

 

[Rimmer]

An off topic conspiracy troll post and a reply have been removed

[Mavideol]

the guy has no soul, no heart and no brain, what to expect from him??? ... not much

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Moscow may have used new guided bomb to attack Kharkiv injuring 19

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-putin-121324773.html

Putin looks to exploit Moscow ISIS-K attack

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-looks-exploit-moscow-terror-090000441.html

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

15 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

the guy has no soul, no heart and no brain, what to expect from him??? ... not much

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Moscow may have used new guided bomb to attack Kharkiv injuring 19

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-putin-121324773.html

Putin looks to exploit Moscow ISIS-K attack

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-looks-exploit-moscow-terror-090000441.html

 

 

The FAB Glide bombs are nothing new and are similar I believe to NATO'S JDAMS. What it allows is for the cheap upgrading of inertia fall dumb bombs into smart bombs carried by planes up to 70km away from the target with guidance to an accuracy of 10m. Cheap FPV drones are used for target locating. The current largest are 1500kg, but a 3000kg mega bomb is in production. These are raining down on poor Ukrainian conscripts on the frontlines and inflicting devastating damage.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-ukraine-war-trench-attack/

 

The 1.5-ton FAB-1500 bomb is a conversion of an old Soviet-era weapon. It is delivered by fighter jets some 70 kilometers from the target then directed by a guidance system and uses pop-out wings to glide toward its target.

FAB bombs were used in the recent Russian offensive in the Donetsk region and played havoc with defenses at Avdiivka, a town in eastern Ukraine that fell to Russia last month.

“We will need very deep fortifications to withstand these aerial guided bombs,” Pavlenko said.

“The Russians fortify whenever and wherever possible, regardless of whether they’re on the offensive, and that is sound war logic,” he added.   

 

They have done the same with T90 ammo as well with smart Telnik shells which are programmed to air burst over target locations with deviating impacts.

 

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/02/03/all-russian-t-90m-tanks-in-ukraine-may-have-received-telnik-shells/

 

Then's the proliferation of loitering munition drones the Lancet, which are being mass-produced in pop up factories in abandoned shopping malls

 

https://kyivindependent.com/how-russias-homegrown-lancet-drone-became-so-feared-in-ukraine/

 

The Lancet fills an important gap for mid-range precision strikes and counter-battery fire, which Russia, lacking a system like the U.S.-built HIMARS, has otherwise struggled with in Ukraine due to the lower range and precision of their tubed and rocket artillery.

“Even when our equipment is hidden in the bushes, it (Lancet) sees the silhouette from far away, and just dives at it like a falcon,” said Oleksandr “Hollywood,” an air defense specialist in Ukraine’s 47th Mechanized Brigade, to the Kyiv Independent.

 

Finally, the TOS Thermobaric has been deployed at the front.

 

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-using-thermobaric-weapons/31734007.html

 

The United Kingdom has accused Russia of deploying thermobaric weapons systems in Ukraine, raising fears there could be an escalation of the damage being done as Moscow intensifies its assault on major cities a week after invading its neighbor.

"How far (Russian President Vladimir Putin) will go, what weapons he will authorize to achieve his ultimate aim, is unknown but we've seen the use of massive amounts of artillery. We've seen the deployment of thermobaric artillery weapon systems and we worry how broad those could go," British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said on March 3 during a visit to NATO ally Estonia.

 

The combination of these weapons, coupled with a massive imbalance in artillery shells, means the Ukrainians are facing unprecedented threats on their frontlines. No wonder so few are prepared to conscript, as it's a virtual death sentence.

[kwonitoy]

 

[rabas]

WARNING

 

Note the timing:

1. Putin reelected (days ago).

2. Massive 'Middle East' terror attack in Moscow.

3. Russian pacific fleet has entered the Red Sea.

 

Note: only a few ships have entered the Red Sea. Not the entire fleet. The below image is historical. 

[Mavideol]

and their own jet exploding/crashing, that show how reliable/good jets and pilots are

Watch: Russian jet explodes in fireball as it plunges into sea in Crimea

https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-russian-jet-explodes-fireball-212105760.html

 

[Mavideol]

and Ukraine keeps pounding their Black Sea fleet

Ukraine says a missile barrage against Russia's Black Sea Fleet was even more successful than it thought

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-says-missile-barrage-against-113305300.html

[Mavideol]

the USA and the EU should move their arxxses and delivered ammunition ASAP

Just three weapons will turn the Ukraine war back around. And the USA is back in the fight

https://www.yahoo.com/news/american-aid-finally-coming-back-133057468.html

[balo]

As you are all aware of,  Norway amongst other NATO countries have donated several F-16 planes to Ukraine and their pilots are getting the proper training right now.  

But yesterday during a speech, Putin threatened Ukraine and the countries supporting them with F-16 planes that the planes will be a target the moment they are taking off ,however it is not clear if he means they will be shot down outside Ukrainian airspace or inside. 
If he tries something stupid, like sending a missile and hit the plane while over NATO territory he is signing his own death penalty.  But I am sure he will do anything he can to stop the first F-16's from reaching an Ukrainian air base. 

 

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/03/28/putin-threatens-striking-western-air-bases-hosting-ukrainian-f-16s/

[ExpatOilWorker]

Orc well diving.

 

[Mavideol]

40 minutes ago, balo said:

As you are all aware of,  Norway amongst other NATO countries have donated several F-16 planes to Ukraine and their pilots are getting the proper training right now.  

But yesterday during a speech, Putin threatened Ukraine and the countries supporting them with F-16 planes that the planes will be a target the moment they are taking off ,however it is not clear if he means they will be shot down outside Ukrainian airspace or inside. 
If he tries something stupid, like sending a missile and hit the plane while over NATO territory he is signing his own death penalty.  But I am sure he will do anything he can to stop the first F-16's from reaching an Ukrainian air base. 

 

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/03/28/putin-threatens-striking-western-air-bases-hosting-ukrainian-f-16s/

it appears he may have just signed his death sentence

 

Speaking to Russian air force pilots late Wednesday, Putin said Moscow has no intention of attacking any countries in NATO but that F-16s could be targeted wherever they’re located if they’re being used against Russian forces. “Of course, if they will be used from airfields in third countries, they become for us legitimate targets, wherever they might be located,” Putin said, according to Reuters.

Putin Vows to Blast the West’s F-16s Out of the Sky in Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-vows-blast-west-f-100919254.html

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Great news.............lol

 

One Russian paper today warns of a fuel shortage in Russia. “Ukrainian attacks on Russia’s fuel infrastructure have resulted in a drop in petrol production.” Plus, more attempts in the Russian press to implicate Ukraine in the Crocus City concert hall attack. 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Great news.............lol

 

One Russian paper today warns of a fuel shortage in Russia. “Ukrainian attacks on Russia’s fuel infrastructure have resulted in a drop in petrol production.” Plus, more attempts in the Russian press to implicate Ukraine in the Crocus City concert hall attack. 

 

 

 

You're cheerleading on a Trump win with increased fuel prices. But you know that and do it anyway.

 

The latest U.S. consumer price reading from Tuesday showed inflation rose more than anticipated on the back of a surge in gasoline prices.

Granted, gas prices in the U.S. are now slightly lower than they were at this time last year. But they are a massive 60% higher now than they were in early November 2020, just before President Biden won the election. 

 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Rising-Gasoline-Prices-Bring-Bad-News-for-Biden.html

[beautifulthailand99]

Who is fooling who - Western governments talk big, but when it comes to the pocket book they are duplicitous as any. The truth is despite all the posturing and high blown rhetoric we can't afford to take on Putin nor he us. So poor Ukraine gets crushed like a butterfly on a wheel.

 

https://archive.is/aXjjO

 

 Western consumers continue to fund Putin’s war because we continue to import huge quantities of Putin’s oil, much of it routed through Russian-owned refineries in India in order to make it appear as if sanctions are working. Shipbrokers and insurers in London continue to enable this trade, and they are well represented by lobbyists in the EU. When the results become glaringly obvious – for example, when Russia records a trade surplus sufficient to fund its military for three years, as it did in 2022 – the West can be stirred into responding with harder sanctions, such as the price cap on Russian crude oil of $60 a barrel that was introduced at the end of 2022.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

You're cheerleading on a Trump win with increased fuel prices. But you know that and do it anyway.

 

The latest U.S. consumer price reading from Tuesday showed inflation rose more than anticipated on the back of a surge in gasoline prices.

Granted, gas prices in the U.S. are now slightly lower than they were at this time last year. But they are a massive 60% higher now than they were in early November 2020, just before President Biden won the election. 

 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Rising-Gasoline-Prices-Bring-Bad-News-for-Biden.html

I am not a Trump supporter, never have been and have no ideas what his policies on oil are. Off topic nonsense. This is not about me.

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Great news.............lol

 

One Russian paper today warns of a fuel shortage in Russia. “Ukrainian attacks on Russia’s fuel infrastructure have resulted in a drop in petrol production.” Plus, more attempts in the Russian press to implicate Ukraine in the Crocus City concert hall attack. 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, balo said:

As you are all aware of,  Norway amongst other NATO countries have donated several F-16 planes to Ukraine and their pilots are getting the proper training right now.  

Hmmmmm, wonder who is going to be maintaining them. Norway can donate all the F16s it wants if they can't be fixed, and it probably takes longer to train the guys that keep them flying than it does to cross train pilots to fly them.

I wonder if they'll try and sneak some Norwegian mechanics in.

 

Plus, they require lots of spares, so is Norway donating them as well? Can't fly if a part is broken. Computer systems? I have no doubt F16s have lots of computerisation, so do they have the specialists for them, also such as communications, weapons, protection systems. Are the runways fit for purpose?

 

It's never as simple as just handing over the keys and waving the planes goodbye.

 

BTW, all Russia has to do is send a missile or 50 to damage the runways before they land. Can't land one if there are a few potholes. It's not like they can build dozens of runways and they can't be disguised under a couple of cammo nets.

 

I could be wrong, but IMO this may turn out to be Leopard tanks version 2.

 

Never mind, just keep taking the pills and it'll all be over soon enough.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

You're cheerleading on a Trump win with increased fuel prices. But you know that and do it anyway.

 

The latest U.S. consumer price reading from Tuesday showed inflation rose more than anticipated on the back of a surge in gasoline prices.

Granted, gas prices in the U.S. are now slightly lower than they were at this time last year. But they are a massive 60% higher now than they were in early November 2020, just before President Biden won the election. 

 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Rising-Gasoline-Prices-Bring-Bad-News-for-Biden.html

Great. Bring it on.

 

While you and I agree on many things, Trump is where we part ways. I just can't stand the idea that Harris may be POTUS by this time next year, and it looks like Trump is going to be the only candidate for the GOP, so it'll be on him to stop her.

( obviously I don't have much faith that Biden will last much longer than the ceremony if he wins ).

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, balo said:

If he tries something stupid, like sending a missile and hit the plane while over NATO territory he is signing his own death penalty. 

Yes, that would be stupid, but he may decide that NATO doesn't want WW3 over a few planes and do it anyway.

[Mavideol]

Ukraine-Russia war – live: Poland scrambles jets as Zelensky predicts which country Putin will target next

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-putin-121324773.html

[beautifulthailand99]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Great. Bring it on.

 

While you and I agree on many things, Trump is where we part ways. I just can't stand the idea that Harris may be POTUS by this time next year, and it looks like Trump is going to be the only candidate for the GOP, so it'll be on him to stop her.

( obviously I don't have much faith that Biden will last much longer than the ceremony if he wins ).

 

Trump is a narcissistic, inward looking blowhard who is the answer to nothing. Who will spend most of his term in office if he wins, polishing his own dirty halo and working through revenge on his past grudges. The working class dispossessed that think he is the new Messiah will be just as worse off after he's gone and even more bitter. That said he's outside the magic circle of the beltway, and he gets building stuff not war and in that specific arena his opposition to ever more endless wars destroying people, influence and wealth are to be applauded. Whoever wins the US is f**cked anyway. It really is the devil and the deep blue sea. Basically, if you vote Biden/Harris you are getting the Obama White House.

[beautifulthailand99]

Vladimir Putin may be weeks away from a breakthrough in Ukraine but the West is asleep - Comment
 

There is a growing understanding across the Western allies that Ukraine is losing the ground war against Russia, and by summer could face defeat.

Russia is pounding front lines with artillery, rocket and drone fire — and at over five times the rate the Ukrainian army can reply. Volodymyr Zelensky’s troops are exhausted — after sustaining in some sectors a heavier concentration of incoming artillery than at the Somme in 1916, or the Normandy Bocage after D-Day in 1944.

 

The Western alliance seems oddly at sixes and sevens. The American Ukraine policy is ensnared by congressional in-fighting. European partners like Germany, gas-strapped Italy and Spain covertly or overtly are looking for a soft deal with Russia.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/ukraine-war-russia-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelensky-b1148294.html