"Reefer Madness": Thai media continue to attack marijuana use blaming it for violence/addiction

[Pouatchee]

1 hour ago, RandolphGB said:

The British boiler room boys who've poured millions into those tacky neon-lit shops across the country won't be happy when the drug is criminalised again.

Nor will I and I can't even smoke anymore. But... what are they going to do about it?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

His friends introduced the drug to him and he felt good when he had it and irritable when he didn't.

Good work Anutin...

[Grandpa Cool]

28 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

It's amazing how powerful the big dope lobby is. Who would have thought that Thailand would have legalised it? Fact is that dope causes mental illness in some of its users.

Major causes of mental illness : religion, television, movies, newspapers, education systems, societal pressure, propaganda, social conditioning and expectations, lust, greed, envy, etc, etc, etc.....the causes and manifestations of mental illness are endless. 

We live in a world where madness is the norm. 

War ( conspired mass murder) manifests itself between nations, but actually echoes the pervasive craziness of us as individuals.

We love to hate! We love to condem! We thrive on divisiveness!

It's very convenient to blame cannabis for the ills of society, but really speaking, the problems of human beings are our personal responsibility and the solution can only be by becoming self aware .

It's this writer's opinion that pointing the finger at others and blaming is just another way of avoiding oneself.

[watchcat]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Tell me again that canabis is worse for Thai scoiety than tobacco, alcohol and meth.

I can't as its not.

[Spock]

34 minutes ago, LiamB80 said:

Cannabis isn’t as harmless as people think especially for teenagers and young adults when the human brain isn’t fully developed until 25yo. It can severely alter the psyche of these young people. Modern strains are highly potent and basically zonk people out of their mind. I myself was a regular cannabis and quit a few years ago when I noticed things in my life i didn’t like. Irritability and even outbursts when I didn’t have it and I also felt its better to face the world with a clear mind. Occasional users won’t have these issues but when it becomes a habit it can be harmful.

I have a couple of vapes every night and have used cannabis for 52 years without any negative affects. Looking forward to returning soon to Thailand to enjoy the benefits of legalisation. 

[sidneybear]

20 minutes ago, Grandpa Cool said:

Major causes of mental illness : religion, television, movies, newspapers, education systems, societal pressure, propaganda, social conditioning and expectations, lust, greed, envy, etc, etc, etc.....the causes and manifestations of mental illness are endless. 

We live in a world where madness is the norm. 

War ( conspired mass murder) manifests itself between nations, but actually echoes the pervasive craziness of us as individuals.

We love to hate! We love to condem! We thrive on divisiveness!

It's very convenient to blame cannabis for the ills of society, but really speaking, the problems of human beings are our personal responsibility and the solution can only be by becoming self aware .

It's this writer's opinion that pointing the finger at others and blaming is just another way of avoiding oneself.

 Marketing messaging brought to you by the big dope lobby. Here's what real medical professionals say: https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/index.html

 

Smoke it, if you wish, but be aware of the various risks and don't pretend that it's harmless, because it isn't despite all the marketing by the Big Dope industry. 

Edited March 21, 2023 by sidneybear

[jvs]

I was away for a few days in a town lets name it Cannabisburi,many  people

openly smoking and being happy.

No angry or paranoid people to be seen,all a very big party.

Anything wrong with that?

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by jvs

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Anutin always said that medicinal weed and allowing people to grow it to make money was his aim. Not recreational use

Well he sure screwed that one up, and walked away from the problem when the Thai populous decide it would be a free-for-all.

[dinsdale]

Everyone posting seems to have missed the point of media bias. Problem is Thais are socialised to believe even the absurd. Ghosts for instance. Still wearing masks were there is no need to. This whole thing about legalisation is about politics, the conservative right, the Buddhist lobby and keeping the mushrooms in the dark and feeding them s.... . I have seen absolutely nothing based on the science of marijuana being a narcotic or not. Even the WHO has downgraded it.

[Homburg]

Cannabis, from what I have seen so far, can cause problems as can all drugs, however the problems from cannabis appear to be considerably less than those from alcohol, the misuse of which leads to violence and deaths seemingly every day.  Could it possibly be that the anti-cannabis rhetoric is being funded by the booze manufacturers, worried about losing their profits?

[robertson468]

5 hours ago, MrMuddle said:

Ridiculous stories, anyone with any inteligence can see it's propaganda.
Every village has kids, usually boys, who are uncontrollable, due to their every wish being granted by aging grandparents, who look after them, while the kid's parents chase big money, in the cities. NOTHING at all to do with Cannabis, and EVERYTHING to do with bad parenting.
There's a man who visits our village, who has tantrums, and jumps up and down like a big soft girl, when he can't get his own way, and shakes when he can't get any alcohol. All caused by his parents indulging him when he was a boy.

And your medical qualification is?

[proton]

1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

It's all about education of the young.

The BBC had a TV programme for infants in the distant past featuring Bill and Ben the flower POT Men. Their sidekick was a cannabis looking spikey leaved smiling plant uttering the catch phrase

" Bop de bop WEED" ????

 

 

 

went to a school in bkk on Saturday, there must have been 30 posters around education kids about the 'evils' of the weed

[SOTIRIOS]

...What About The Ravages Of Alcohol....(?)

[n00dle]

3 hours ago, IamNoone88 said:

Personally, I don't care if people want to trip out the stuff

Uh Huh.

[Reigntax]

If they ban all dope in Thailand they’d have to deport 95% of the population

[Wanderer555]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

This is a hotly debated subject here in this forum and in many other places and there isn't much to add then what already have been known of the properties of the weed and consequences of using only to say that on certain people the weed can have different more profound effects then others that is true

as the article above illustrates.

 

An alternative to your claim would be the boy has pre-existing mental health issues that marijuana use helps to control, and when not medicated with THC the underlying behavioral problems resurface.

 

Just an idea …????

[RichardColeman]

This is just another reason the idiots in charge here should come up with '5 years in the army ' sentencing. Misbehave when young - drugs, bikes, assaults - in you go, maybe you come out a more respecting person

[RichardColeman]

17 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

If they ban all dope in Thailand they’d have to deport 95% of the population

Well, maybe 95% of your friends, but only 5% of mine.

[AP2019]

As a former (and regular) user I can tell you that pot is a plague.  I’ve seen promising lives ruined and seen adults shrink into semi-catatonic existence.  The youth of Thailand is being sold out for pot tourist money – in coming years they will regret it.

 

The independent studies (i.e. not pot industry studies) show the risks:

 

Teen use of pot increases with legalization – adversely affects cognitive development:

• The 2015 Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse study confirmed the direct link between cannabis use and loss of concentration and memory, jumbled thinking and early onset paranoid psychosis.
• Teenagers who were already using marijuana prior to legalization increased their frequency of use significantly afterwards.
• Much more in article

https://theconversation.com/marijuana-at-school-loss-of-concentration-risk-of-psychosis-90374

 

Accidents and fatalities rise:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-07-19/where-pot-became-legal-car-crash-deaths-rose-study

 

Health problems emerge:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11789089/Cannabis-users-likely-develop-heart-disease-major-study-warns.html

 

Please don’t bother responding with how evil alcohol is – I won’t disagree.  And if you haven’t independently posted about banning alcohol, your point is merely self-serving.

 

If your objection is related to potential medical benefits - with cancer patients and nausea being the best example - then prescription use is the answer for that. 

 

Recreational legalization is a downward spiral. By the time they realize it, the damage will already be done.

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by AP2019

[Shocked farang]

3 hours ago, LiamB80 said:

Cannabis isn’t as harmless as people think especially for teenagers and young adults when the human brain isn’t fully developed until 25yo. It can severely alter the psyche of these young people. Modern strains are highly potent and basically zonk people out of their mind. I myself was a regular cannabis and quit a few years ago when I noticed things in my life i didn’t like. Irritability and even outbursts when I didn’t have it and I also felt its better to face the world with a clear mind. Occasional users won’t have these issues but when it becomes a habit it can be harmful.

Exactly, as a matter of fact, using Cannabis one develops tolerance, there are some receptors in the brain that get blocked, so the person want to smoke more and more. For people who understandably want the benefits of medical cannabis they should go for CBD, without the pscyco active effects of the THC. 

[zyphodb]

3 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

It's all about education of the young.

The BBC had a TV programme for infants in the distant past featuring Bill and Ben the flower POT Men. Their sidekick was a cannabis looking spikey leaved smiling plant uttering the catch phrase

" Bop de bop WEED" ????

 

 

 

I remember it as " little weeed"....

[zzaa09]

The usual results and conclusions when we have convincing ignorance among the controlling circle of authority and experts. 

[roietfortress]

2 hours ago, Wanderer555 said:

An alternative to your claim would be the boy has pre-existing mental health issues that marijuana use helps to control, and when not medicated with THC the underlying behavioral problems resurface.

 

Just an idea …????

exactly. its a medicine. put him on a chemical from Pfizer instead? what about Ritalin?

 

people abuse every medicine. the question is, does it help the people who use it correctly? the answer is yes.

 

#

[zyphodb]

3 hours ago, jvs said:

I was away for a few days in a town lets name it Cannabisburi,many  people

openly smoking and being happy.

No angry or paranoid people to be seen,all a very big party.

Anything wrong with that?

 

And may Glasto live long and prosper...

[alex8912]

5 hours ago, asf6 said:

Reefer Madness. LOL 

 

Have we moved on from 1936?

 

 

Ezra??

[alex8912]

2 hours ago, AP2019 said:

As a former (and regular) user I can tell you that pot is a plague.  I’ve seen promising lives ruined and seen adults shrink into semi-catatonic existence.  The youth of Thailand is being sold out for pot tourist money – in coming years they will regret it.

 

The independent studies (i.e. not pot industry studies) show the risks:

 

Teen use of pot increases with legalization – adversely affects cognitive development:

• The 2015 Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse study confirmed the direct link between cannabis use and loss of concentration and memory, jumbled thinking and early onset paranoid psychosis.
• Teenagers who were already using marijuana prior to legalization increased their frequency of use significantly afterwards.
• Much more in article

https://theconversation.com/marijuana-at-school-loss-of-concentration-risk-of-psychosis-90374

 

Accidents and fatalities rise:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-07-19/where-pot-became-legal-car-crash-deaths-rose-study

 

Health problems emerge:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11789089/Cannabis-users-likely-develop-heart-disease-major-study-warns.html

 

Please don’t bother responding with how evil alcohol is – I won’t disagree.  And if you haven’t independently posted about banning alcohol, your point is merely self-serving.

 

If your objection is related to potential medical benefits - with cancer patients and nausea being the best example - then prescription use is the answer for that. 

 

Recreational legalization is a downward spiral. By the time they realize it, the damage will already be done.

 

Complete BS!!!

[sherwood]

6 hours ago, Homburg said:

Cannabis, from what I have seen so far, can cause problems as can all drugs, however the problems from cannabis appear to be considerably less than those from alcohol, the misuse of which leads to violence and deaths seemingly every day.  Could it possibly be that the anti-cannabis rhetoric is being funded by the booze manufacturers, worried about losing their profits?

Not to mention the traders in meth.

 

6 hours ago, Homburg said:

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by sherwood

[fuehrio]

This article sums up about everything what's wrong with Thai society - except the legalization of cannabis. 

[bamnutsak]

18 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

As far as I know there is no tax on selling cannabis albeit you have apply for a licence to grow or sell so how is the Thai government making money from it ?

Licensing fee(s)?

 

VAT?

 

Arguably cannabis should have additional taxes as do alcohol and tobacco.

 

 

In theory the Cannabis Control Act would provide all the controls people seem to desire?

 

 

 

 

[quake]

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They have claimed it is responsible for acts of violence after users go berserk when they can't get a "fix".

Oh deer.

Total Bs. 

Grow up Thailand.