An autopsy has found that the death of a 46-year-old Thai woman Tuesday night, just hours after receiving an AstraZeneca vaccine shot, was due to a heart attack.

 

The right atria of the woman’s heart was found to be ruptured, causing a haemorrhage of 180cc of blood and severe pulmonary oedema, in which excessive amounts of fluid builds up in the lungs, said Dr. Atthasit Dulamnuay of Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital, where the autopsy was conducted.

 

It remains unclear if the death of the woman was linked in any way to the vaccine, pending further medical examinations, he said, adding that the chance of undesirable side effects is less than one in 100,000, so it is still considered safe.

 

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So the  question is left hanging in the  air like a toxin !

There will be those that will grasp on to the result as some form of proof "the Vaccine" is  to blame.

The opposite  will be the defense that even if  that was so that such  risk is minimal in fact.

What we are not (at this moment  and nor  should the public expect ) given detailed information as to her cardiovascular status in a historical sense and/or a pathological analysis resulting from an autopsy can or  has identified any associated evidence to being vaccinated beyond  perhaps an outcome of elevated stress generated  by  negative media commentary precipitating an epileptic  seizure !

A European country that quite some months  back which halted vaccinations in the elderly due to the reported  number of  deaths shortly thereafter eventually disclosed the fact that the number of  deaths in that age group was statistically no different to that prior to the pandemic or  vaccinations when never exposed to the virus.

But as usual there is no news more saleable than bad news and if it is not bad  twist it so it seems so !

 

 

39 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

It remains unclear if the death of the woman was linked in any way to the vaccine

 

That is how all of the stories will remain, cannot associate it with the vaccine, period !

Great that this has been cleared up.

 

58 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The right atria of the woman’s heart was found to be ruptured

I doubt a vaccine would cause a ruptured atria, what would be the mechanism? The vaccine made her faint and fall, with a subsequent thoracic trauma....?? 

 

It doesn’t matter what an autopsy and medical expert reports there will be some who simply cannot fathom that any death after a vaccine is not caused by the vaccine, they will claim the governments and vaccine companies have too much power and will force the cover up etc etc.... 

 

There were previous reports of 27 post vaccine deaths for which the blame has also been placed on ’non-vaccine causes. 

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/12-recent-deaths-not-related-to-covid-19-vaccines/

 

 

These updates are not going to please some people who seem so bias against the vaccines they want to blame the vaccines for as many deaths and complications as possible. 

 

It must be remembered that people die anyway - on average about 1500 people per day in Thailand, some of those will die of ‘other causes’ on the same day they were vaccinated.

 

A good summary of the AZ vaccine controversy and vaccine side effects generally. Though it does mention the AZ vaccine and association with some risk of blood clots and heart attacks, statistically it's likely related to this women's case. (But it is certainly coincidental a middle aged lady dropping dead of a heart attack shortly after getting the vaccine. It doesn't say if she had any history of coronary or heart disease.)

 

The EMA said that the concern is related to blood clots with “unusual features” including low levels of platelets, which are involved in creating clots. Still both the EMA and AstraZeneca emphasized that the number of blood clot-related events, which could include clots in the legs and also more severe outcomes like heart attacks or strokes, seem not to be higher than the rate seen in the general population. [Emphasis added] Side effect scares are common with vaccines, but they also very often do not pan out. The reason is that so many people receive vaccines that some will experience what seems like a side effect by chance when, really, it is not related to the vaccine at all.

“Vaccines protect against one thing: the infection or the infection plus disease,” said Susan Ellenberg, a biostatistician at the University of Pennsylvania. “They don’t protect you against everything else that might possibly happen to you.”

 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/15/the-curious-case-of-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine/

The CCSA spokesman said yesterday that this death, and 12 of the 27 others, was "coincidental". His word, he repeated it twice, probably for effect.

 

I have to ask again, should this woman have received a vaccination, given her health history?

 

 

Nothing to do with this then.........https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/thailand-compensates-400000-baht-for-death-or-total-disability-from-vaccination-356010

 

There is a Video online of her death. She was vivaciously showing how to cook a dish. She looked very healthy. Then she just dropped like a rock. What could cause a Blood Vessel to burst? A Blood Clot idiots.

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

It doesn’t matter what an autopsy and medical expert reports there will be some who simply cannot fathom that any death after a vaccine is not caused by the vaccine, they will claim the governments and vaccine companies have too much power and will force the cover up etc etc.... 

 

Then there are those who just do not believe when things are under their noses.

 

Did you not read that a 17 year old boy had blood clots in his brain shortly after being vaccinated with Pfizer, oh yes that's right, coincidence, or a conspiracy, and then his father days after the son also ended up with clots, hundred of clots in his lungs from the Moderna shot, again, coincidence.....lol

 

Apparently they had both been infected with Covid unbeknown to them and the vaccines made some kind of reaction that cause them to have the clots, so I would suggest anyone thinking of being vaccinated get screened, not by a PCR test, but an antibodies test because this could be why other have had clots and or died, i.e. they could have been infected with the virus and not known and had the vaccination which acted in the same way as the father son in Utah USA, the mother also had the Moderna vaccine at the same time as the husband and the son but had no reaction, and the reason for that was that the son and father travelled for basketball and the wife stayed home looking after the girls and as soon as the husband and son returned they went and got the vaccines so the wife wasn't infected.

 

More and more information is surfacing, call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but the vaccines did create the clotting, not some rare even, i.e. these two had the virus unbeknown to them and got the mRNA jabs and ended up with clots, so you can't say it was a rare even, more research needs to be done on these vaccines, but if people are brave or stupid enough, choose your word, then at least get your antibodies tested before the jab to make sure you haven't been infected and if you have, well you won't need the vaccine as recent studies have shown you will be immune and your chances of getting reinfected is like 1 in a million. 

 

https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/draper-teenager-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccine-shot/

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w

11 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

I doubt a vaccine would cause a ruptured atria, what would be the mechanism? The vaccine made her faint and fall, with a subsequent thoracic trauma....?? 

I also doubt that covid 19 being a flu causes heart attacks or cancer or falling from the stairs but those died for these reasons and been found positive to covid have been counted as covid19 deaths?

anybody have an antobody test for CV19, be interested to know where and how you got it - I don't mind paying for it 

5 hours ago, josthomz said:

 

The 5G chip got lodged in her heart, overheated while trying to establish connection from inside the heart, and burned through the atria, causing a hole in it 55555. 

 

 

(Disclaimer: No, I don't believe in those conspiracy theories. I am just making fun of covidiots and conspiracy theorists.)

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13 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

That is how all of the stories will remain, cannot associate it with the vaccine, period !

One must remember this company Siam Bioscience has never made vaccines before. A great  company like J&J got contamination in some of their vaccines and they were taken off the market for some time.

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

It remains unclear if the death of the woman was linked in any way to the vaccine, pending further medical examinations, he said, adding that the chance of undesirable side effects is less than one in 100,000, so it is still considered safe.

So no conclusion then?

There are so many "doctors" on this forum. Nice to see you all the comments.

Why is it we only seem to hear bad messages about Astra Zenica and Jansen, and it seems never hear anything bad about the US vaccins?

They will never admit that a vaccination is the proximate cause that triggers a pre-existing condition leading to death.  Especially if the vaccines in a locally manufactured vaccine.  Conflict of interest.

We'll only hear, "Nothing to see here. Move along."

It's entirely possible this women had an undiagnosed heart condition and that maybe the vaccine nudged her over the edge.  I'd guess that happens a lot particularly with elderly people.  But it's unlikely the vaccination is really implicated.

5 hours ago, exparte said:

There is a Video online of her death. She was vivaciously showing how to cook a dish. She looked very healthy. Then she just dropped like a rock. What could cause a Blood Vessel to burst? A Blood Clot idiots.

3 weeks ago a friend of our son,age 26 dropped dead of a heart attack,no warning ,at autopsy it was found that he had heart problems that he obviously never knew about.

5 hours ago, Sundown said:

I also doubt that covid 19 being a flu causes heart attacks or cancer or falling from the stairs but those died for these reasons and been found positive to covid have been counted as covid19 deaths?

False. Influenza viruses are not coronaviruses. Not even close.

21 minutes ago, connda said:

They will never admit that a vaccination is the proximate cause that triggers a pre-existing condition leading to death.  Especially if the vaccines in a locally manufactured vaccine.  Conflict of interest.

We'll only hear, "Nothing to see here. Move along."

Never? 

Got any other unsubstantiated claims to make?

15 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Why is it we only seem to hear bad messages about Astra Zenica and Jansen, and it seems never hear anything bad about the US vaccins?

If you check the adverse reaction databases in the UK Yellow Card system.  These are the totals from the Yellow Card system for June 2, 2021.  Moderna and Pfizer have their fair share but AZ has the lion's share of adverse reactions. 

7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Then there are those who just do not believe when things are under their noses.

 

Did you not read that a 17 year old boy had blood clots in his brain shortly after being vaccinated with Pfizer, oh yes that's right, coincidence, or a conspiracy, and then his father days after the son also ended up with clots, hundred of clots in his lungs from the Moderna shot, again, coincidence.....lol

 

Apparently they had both been infected with Covid unbeknown to them and the vaccines made some kind of reaction that cause them to have the clots, so I would suggest anyone thinking of being vaccinated get screened, not by a PCR test, but an antibodies test because this could be why other have had clots and or died, i.e. they could have been infected with the virus and not known and had the vaccination which acted in the same way as the father son in Utah USA, the mother also had the Moderna vaccine at the same time as the husband and the son but had no reaction, and the reason for that was that the son and father travelled for basketball and the wife stayed home looking after the girls and as soon as the husband and son returned they went and got the vaccines so the wife wasn't infected.

 

More and more information is surfacing, call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but the vaccines did create the clotting, not some rare even, i.e. these two had the virus unbeknown to them and got the mRNA jabs and ended up with clots, so you can't say it was a rare even, more research needs to be done on these vaccines, but if people are brave or stupid enough, choose your word, then at least get your antibodies tested before the jab to make sure you haven't been infected and if you have, well you won't need the vaccine as recent studies have shown you will be immune and your chances of getting reinfected is like 1 in a million. 

 

https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/draper-teenager-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccine-shot/

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w

 

 

  Interesting theory.  Fortunately Thailand can research this (and probably is) by vaccinating prisoners and construction workers already infected with the virus.  Research that Dr Mengele would have been happy to undertake. 

7 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

 

 

  Interesting theory.  Fortunately Thailand can research this (and probably is) by vaccinating prisoners and construction workers already infected with the virus.  Research that Dr Mengele would have been happy to undertake. 

Guess next you will be promoting the lampshade sales ????

10 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

A good summary of the AZ vaccine controversy and vaccine side effects generally. Though it does mention the AZ vaccine and association with some risk of blood clots and heart attacks, statistically it's likely related to this women's case. (But it is certainly coincidental a middle aged lady dropping dead of a heart attack shortly after getting the vaccine. It doesn't say if she had any history of coronary or heart disease.)

 

The EMA said that the concern is related to blood clots with “unusual features” including low levels of platelets, which are involved in creating clots. Still both the EMA and AstraZeneca emphasized that the number of blood clot-related events, which could include clots in the legs and also more severe outcomes like heart attacks or strokes, seem not to be higher than the rate seen in the general population. [Emphasis added] Side effect scares are common with vaccines, but they also very often do not pan out. The reason is that so many people receive vaccines that some will experience what seems like a side effect by chance when, really, it is not related to the vaccine at all.

“Vaccines protect against one thing: the infection or the infection plus disease,” said Susan Ellenberg, a biostatistician at the University of Pennsylvania. “They don’t protect you against everything else that might possibly happen to you.”

 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/03/15/the-curious-case-of-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine/

This article gives a fairly good perspective on the problem. We should be grateful to modern technology for the rapid identification, took nearly 30 years with Heparin.

 

But in some people, the AstraZeneca vaccine seems to produce antibodies that react with platelets, making them stick together, leading the blood to clot. This in turn reduces circulating platelet numbers, and hence the thrombocytopenia.

These antibodies are similar to those found in some people on a blood thinning drug called heparin. The immune response to heparin generates antibodies that bind to platelets. This can lead to blood clots in some people, called heparin induced thrombocytopenia. As many as one in 20 patients receiving heparin develop thrombocytopenia.

https://theconversation.com/what-is-thrombocytopenia-the-rare-blood-condition-possibly-linked-to-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-158522

4 hours ago, connda said:

If you check the adverse reaction databases in the UK Yellow Card system.  These are the totals from the Yellow Card system for June 2, 2021.  Moderna and Pfizer have their fair share but AZ has the lion's share of adverse reactions. 

 

The strangest thing is Ivermectin which has been around since 1992 and with only 20 deaths from billions of people taking it since then is gaining traction as more large trials have taken place, vs 5,550 deaths from vaccines. Big pharma refused to fund the bog trials.

 

India is taking legal action against the WHO's chief officer, one of their own kind for Twittering that it shouldn't be used, when 5 provinces in India have shown huge reductions in deaths and lots of recoveries, the High Court in Bombay ruled in favour of the evidence for it to continue being used when they tried to stop it being used in favour of vaccines.

https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/goa-govt-to-bombay-high-court-ivermectin-to-all-suspectedsymptomatic-covid-patients-float-tender-for-vaccines-174924

 

Something very very wrong going on, but it's slowly coming out, with Fauci's emails. 

 

Dr Fauci is under a lot of pressure and his days being numbered as the tides turns, he has been a huge supporter of vaccines and recently for children when they are at low risk, but we won't speculate on that as we don't want to come across as conspiracy theorists. Time will tell.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/video/ingraham-faucis-days-numbered-042525847.html

 

 

For the record, I am not an anti-vaxer as mentioned many times before.

13 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

You strangest thing is Ivermectin which has been around since 1992 and with only 20 deaths from billions of people taking it since then is gaining traction as more large trials have taken place, when big pharma refused to fund them. India is taking legal action against the WHO's chief officer, one of their own kind for Twittering that it shouldn't be used, when 5 provinces in India have shown huge reductions in deaths and lots of recoveries, the High Court in Bombay ruled in favour of the evidence for it to continue being used when they tried to stop it being used in favour of vaccines.

https://www.livelaw.in/news-updates/goa-govt-to-bombay-high-court-ivermectin-to-all-suspectedsymptomatic-covid-patients-float-tender-for-vaccines-174924

 

Something very very wrong going on, but it's slowly coming out, with Fauci's emails. 

 

Dr Fauci is under a lot of pressure and his days being numbered in my opinion, but we won't speculate on that as we don't want to come across as conspiracy theorists.

https://news.yahoo.com/video/ingraham-faucis-days-numbered-042525847.html

 

 

Of course his days are numbered, he is 80 years old ????

5 hours ago, connda said:

If you check the adverse reaction databases in the UK Yellow Card system.  These are the totals from the Yellow Card system for June 2, 2021.  Moderna and Pfizer have their fair share but AZ has the lion's share of adverse reactions. 

 

Interesting information but it doesn’t tell the complete story.

In this case there are more fatalities per report for the Pfiezer vaccine than AZ 

 

It would be interesting to see this breakdown including the actual vaccines given. 

 

Everyone I know in the UK has received the AZ vaccine, I’m sure there were lots of Pfizer vaccine. 

 

But, I do not know how many of each vaccine have been administered in the UK and I’m not having any luck sourcing that information.