Popular Post madmitch Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 25, 2021 I've been jabbed. One dose of Astra Zeneca with a second due on September 17th. Pretty well organised at the Phuket Orchid, though it does appear the times of the appointments are not adhered to as I was in the 9 o'clock group, though was due at 10. Not sure how they'd take to a 3pm appointment turning up at 9am though. Process, as someone asked: check in with the phone or a print of the appointment, when you're given a health declaration form. Blood pressure taken then a wait until your number's called. A bit of seat shuffling before you're allowed upstairs where ther's more seat shuffling before your details are entered onto the computer system, followed by another desk where you're given a card and straight to the nurse doing the vaccine. Half an hour cooling off afterwards before you're released with a slip of paper which as well as the second appoinment date, allows you to exchange it at Chalong Hospital for a certificate which allows you to leave and return to Phuket Province. 2 hours start to finish. 5 2
skatewash Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, madmitch said: I've been jabbed. One dose of Astra Zeneca with a second due on September 17th. Pretty well organised at the Phuket Orchid, though it does appear the times of the appointments are not adhered to as I was in the 9 o'clock group, though was due at 10. Not sure how they'd take to a 3pm appointment turning up at 9am though. Process, as someone asked: check in with the phone or a print of the appointment, when you're given a health declaration form. Blood pressure taken then a wait until your number's called. A bit of seat shuffling before you're allowed upstairs where ther's more seat shuffling before your details are entered onto the computer system, followed by another desk where you're given a card and straight to the nurse doing the vaccine. Half an hour cooling off afterwards before you're released with a slip of paper which as well as the second appoinment date, allows you to exchange it at Chalong Hospital for a certificate which allows you to leave and return to Phuket Province. 2 hours start to finish. Same place, same experience. Showed up for my 9:00 appointment at about 8:40, waited about 10 minutes in the sun before the line progressed under the canopy. If I had arrived earlier I guess I would have been standing in the sun longer. Very well organized. No real surprises. It was nice to have the water I brought although once out of the sun quite comfortable. You're sitting most of the time, almost no standing at all except in the very beginning. Well done. 2nd jab appointment in 12 weeks same place. 2
Popular Post oldcpu Posted June 25, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, madmitch said: I've been jabbed. One dose of Astra Zeneca with a second due on September 17th. I also had my jab too, at Karon Orchard Spa hotel. My appointment was for 09:00am and I showed up at 08:35am, and I was already one of the last in the 09:00am group. By the time I went through all the steps, my jab was at 09:45am, and after that was the 30-minute wait to see if I lived. ???? Next jab also tentatively same place and tentative 17th September. They did recommend I check online (I think) over coming weeks to ensure date doesn't change. Some details ... One can't park in Orchard Spa hotel parking lot, as that is being used for organizing the people showing up for the vaccination. I was able to park on the street in front of the hotel, and many others did the same. It was very much a mix of internationals, with different caucasian nationalities, Japanese, Burmese, Philippine, ... Some enterprising food vendors set up stands outside area where people were gathered. Approximate steps (my numbering): 1. go to 1st desk, show appointment (on my phone) and show passport. They gave a one-page A4 sized Thai language form to fill in. I learned later this was subsequently replaced by an English language paperwork (which was not available when I showed up). 2. Fill in paperwork. They had tables setup to do this, with Thai people by each chair to assist one with the Thai language - and later my understanding is this was not needed. 3. Blood pressure taken. If blood pressure too high, one gets to wait and try again. 4. Go to a station where paperwork is checked. 5. Sit down in an area in outdoor parking garage , cordoned off in a very organized fashion, and cycle through seats (about 15-people at a time), until can move upstairs to convention hall 6. Arrive in Convention Hall, and again cycle through seats until next step\ 7. Sit in front of a computer operator who takes the information one filled in, and enters it into a computer. Then go to next station 8. At this station one's paperwork is again checked (for final time) 9. Receive the vaccination. 10. Wait for 30-minutes after vaccination. One is given a piece of paper afterward that has appointment date hand written on it. One is also advised they can go to Chalong Hospital if one wants a formal certificate for this single AZ dose, to ease traveling to other parts of Thailand to avoid a quarantine. My Thai wife's view is one could skip that and simply show the paperwork as given - but I would not want to put that to the test. Some tidbits - and I am not sure how true. While waiting someone on a loudspeaker said anyone who had been drinking alcohol the night before, would not / should not be vaccinated, and should instead come back on the next day. Then later after the vaccination, the nurse who gave me the shot said no alcohol for 2 weeks !! (but her English not the best, and I think maybe she meant 2 days ? ) ... ???? Overall, I thought they were very organized. There were a LOT of people there (in excess of a couple hundred) for the brief time in which I was there. I am still surprised I have not been asked to pay anything for this, as I was more than willing to pay for the vaccine. This is vaccine is given complement of the Thai people and for that I am grateful. 4 2
DaveC Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 It is good to hear of the success stories and I personally have an appointment for next Monday. Unfortunately I hear that Phuket Central yesterday was a train wreck and an interesting article has just been posted on The Phuket News - Phuket vaccination push riddled with confusion and claims (thephuketnews.com) Many non working expats however are absolutely caught up with problems with the website phuket.win I have set up a site to try to help them - promise no advertising, no cookies, and no unsolicited personal data collected. https://phuket-expat-vaccinations.com
Agusts Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 I read one of the items they said need to show is proof of address, with a few examples on that website somewhere..., from memory the 90 day reporting slip on back of passport has no address, just name/date...., both my Thai driving licenses have my address on the back though, did they not ask for that....!? The 2 weeks no alcohol advice after the jab is correct, I heard it from Thais too..., I told you before LOS is moving towards a Muslim Khalifa state....lol...!!! ???????? 1
oldcpu Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 9 hours ago, DaveC said: Phuket vaccination push riddled with confusion and claims (thephuketnews.com) Many non working expats however are absolutely caught up with problems with the website phuket.win I have set up a site to try to help them - promise no advertising, no cookies, and no unsolicited personal data collected. https://phuket-expat-vaccinations.com Setting up that is most appreciated IMHO. I know of a couple retired expats who struggled to book. It turns out thou, they filled in the software wrong initially when registering on line, raising questions as to their status in Thailand (as what they entered made no sense), and it proved difficult for them to cancel their registration and start again. I suspect had they registered correctly in the 1st place, it would have gone much smoother.
oldcpu Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Agusts said: I read one of the items they said need to show is proof of address, with a few examples on that website somewhere..., from memory the 90 day reporting slip on back of passport has no address, just name/date...., both my Thai driving licenses have my address on the back though, did they not ask for that....!? I had no issue with paperwork. I brought what the web site stated, plus brought my Thai Driver's Licence and Thai Pink ID card. They only wanted the passport were were not interested in my Driver's License nor my Thai Pink ID card. 10 minutes ago, Agusts said: The 2 weeks no alcohol advice after the jab is correct, I heard it from Thais too..., Two weeks !! ???????? ... lol ! I surfed the internet on AZ on alcohol and ones AZ dose, and the recommendations are all over the map. I laughed at a recommendation of a Russian doctor (for Sputnik V vaccine) who recommended 2 months with no alcohol ... only to have the Spunik V 'developer' then chime in and say, no, only 2 to 3 days recommended for no alcohol, but not essential. That of course a different vaccine. I suspect there is no definitive duration of how long its safe to have alcohol after the 1st jab. .... I think all of us have been lectured occasionally by those, who gave up drinking, where those who gave up drinking say all alcohol, no matter when one has such, is dangerous and unhealthy - no matter how infrequent. ... Then we get into a degree of healthy and unhealthy which IMHO is difficult to measure for the average person. 1 1
DaveC Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 My research on the alcohol issue is similar. I do know the Thai advice is no alcohol for 2 weeks after the first jab but my own take is that it is just the Thai (Prayut) line of thinking. I couldn't find any specific (medical based) similar recommendation and I agree with oldcpu. Relating to the input of registration details - Yes that is correct. Many people have made a mistake in their input which has prevented their registration from being accepted BUT there is no facility to change the input once it is submitted. You cannot re-submit because you will get the duplicated Passport Number error. That is why I suggest contacting your Orbortor (Tambon chief ie. head of local council) 2
KarenBravo Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 They don't go on your appointment time, but on the time you submit your paper-work at the first desk, where you get your number. Even though my appointment was for 13:00, I arrived early and processing started at 12:00. For each designated time, there are 220 numbers on a ticket of a certain colour. After number 220 has been called, the numbering goes back to 001, but on a different coloured ticket. The colour is announced when it changes. At 14:00 they finally completed the 11:00 group. As I had been designated the 12:00 group, my group was next. There are 30 seats available that they call green and yellow. Once your number is called, you take a seat in the yellow section. When they are ready upstairs, a woman directs the 15 people in the green zone to go upstairs. The people sitting behind in the yellow seats move up to the green zone seats and 15 more numbers are called and they take your place in the yellow zone. The important stuff is knowing which time group you are in (it's written on the ticket), the colour of the ticket and the number. What happens before and after this is well documented in the posts above. 2
LivinginKata Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 Went very well for me. In and out exactly one hour. Very well organised and staffed. My appointment was 09.00. I arrived 08.25 and had very little waiting time at the various stations. Jab at 08.55. 30 min wait. Different story when I walked through car park. Packed. Long queues. 2
DaveC Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 Just an update relating to the unlucky people who are having problems with their registration on phuket.win Don't hold out hope that it will come good! I'm reliably informed the the Orbortor's are showing little interest in Expat registration problems. (They are good for Thai nationals.) You can try https://depa.or.th the Digital Economy Promotion Agency website, There is a chat line (typical replies within 1 day - as quoted) Failing that - Your local consulate or showing up at a vaccination centre and asking questions. Sorry, but this appears to be a deliberate snow job on these unfortunate people. Terrible website support with virtually no SMS advice of appointment times. If it was me, I would also be contacting the local hospitals. 1
Agusts Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 I have been today given the option to book an appointment (well, two appointments 1st and 2nd jabs), I registered a few days ago... It's only given option for Jungceylon in July, for Sinovac jabs only (I'm under 60) and the 2nd Jab is only 17 days after first, also in July...!? I think AZ will be more effective, but I guess 2 Sinovacs might do the job, beggers can't be choosers ...! ???? Or I can go back to UK and get one AZ, though I think they don't give the 2nd AZ in UK for many months anyway... (PS. need to check on the grey button everyday for this, it first shows fully booked, then turns to available appointment...) 1
skatewash Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Agusts said: I have been today given the option to book an appointment (well, two appointments 1st and 2nd jabs), I registered a few days ago... It's only given option for Jungceylon in July, for Sinovac jabs only (I'm under 60) and the 2nd Jab is only 17 days after first, also in July...!? I think AZ will be more effective, but I guess 2 Sinovacs might do the job, beggers can't be choosers ...! ???? Or I can go back to UK and get one AZ, though I think they don't give the 2nd AZ in UK for many months anyway... (PS. need to check on the grey button everyday for this, it first shows fully booked, then turns to available appointment...) Interesting. Recently in the latest round it has been all AstraZeneca being administered. Glad you succeeded in getting to the appointment stage. Tough choice, though. If you accept the Sinovac (even though less effective than AZ after the first jab) you would be getting your second jab in only 17 days so you would be fully vaccinated sooner than many who have recently just received their first AstraZeneca jab (because many of those will have to wait for 12 weeks to get their second AZ jab). Assuming they offer AstraZeneca in the near future your choice boils down to do you want to be fully vaccinated with Sinovac or partially vaccinated with AstraZeneca. Of course, you also have to consider that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. You know you could get the Sinovac now (well, in July), whereas the AstraZeneca is only a possibility (although maybe a good one). 2
LivinginKata Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, Agusts said: I have been today given the option to book an appointment (well, two appointments 1st and 2nd jabs), I registered a few days ago... Interesting. I register on Monday 21 and got appointment next day for the Saturday 26. With full option of places and times. AZ only offered. I assume they must have run out AZ after the big rush that I saw. 1
Agusts Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, LivinginKata said: Interesting. I register on Monday 21 and got appointment next day for the Saturday 26. With full option of places and times. AZ only offered. I assume they must have run out AZ after the big rush that I saw. Are you below 60....?
LivinginKata Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Agusts said: Are you below 60....? Aaaah .... no Edit but I did see some quite young foreigners while as was there. Only AZ being administered in that session.
sonos99 Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 I just registered today. I wasn't given any choice of date or location. The only date offered was 6 July although there were a few different times I could choose. The location was Jung Ceylon. The vaccine is Sinovac. I am under 60 (just).
DaveC Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 3:54 AM, DaveC said: Just an update relating to the unlucky people who are having problems with their registration on phuket.win Don't hold out hope that it will come good! I'm reliably informed the the Orbortor's are showing little interest in Expat registration problems. (They are good for Thai nationals.) You can try https://depa.or.th the Digital Economy Promotion Agency website, There is a chat line (typical replies within 1 day - as quoted) Failing that - Your local consulate or showing up at a vaccination centre and asking questions. Sorry, but this appears to be a deliberate snow job on these unfortunate people. Terrible website support with virtually no SMS advice of appointment times. If it was me, I would also be contacting the local hospitals. Another update: I have heard of non working expats who have had problems with their vaccination appointments just turning up with a barcode (anybodys) and receiving a vaccination. Phuket Expat Vaccinations (phuket-expat-vaccinations.com)
beechbum Posted June 27, 2021 Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, DaveC said: Another update: I have heard of non working expats who have had problems with their vaccination appointments just turning up with a barcode (anybodys) and receiving a vaccination. Phuket Expat Vaccinations (phuket-expat-vaccinations.com) Qrcode
oldcpu Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 I am thinking one possible way to use Sinovac to one's advantage, ... making the most of this lower efficacy vaccine is to go for a booster as soon as feasible ... SinoVac is only about 3 weeks between doses ... which means one will be eligible for a booster jab sooner, where that booster could be a higher efficacy vaccine such as Moderna or Pfizer. Those of us who received AstraZeneca, because of the 8 to 10 week separation between jabs will likely need to wait longer for a booster. Even AZ is not much better than Sinovac vs the Beta & Delta virus variants. 2
Popular Post oldcpu Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 28, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 3:40 AM, DaveC said: Relating to the input of registration details - Yes that is correct. Many people have made a mistake in their input which has prevented their registration from being accepted BUT there is no facility to change the input once it is submitted. You cannot re-submit because you will get the duplicated Passport Number error. That is why I suggest contacting your Orbortor (Tambon chief ie. head of local council) My wife has a Thai friend with a falang husband (in his 70s) who initially entered the data incorrectly when registering, and has been unable to successfully register for the vaccine as a result. His Thai wife, to help him sort it, actually had to go to Phuket immigration a couple of times, to have his vaccine registration attempt via the vaccine web site cancelled, so he could try again on line. We heard earlier today that he finally succeeded. I have no idea as to how immigration are tied into this registration (for a vaccine) but somehow, if what I was told is correct, they are in the 'loop' and to restart with a clean registration attempt, they are involved in cleaning out the old incorrect registration attempt. .... Hopefully that tidbit will help - and I apologize in advance for my not having more detail, but I am hearing this information about immigration involvement 3rd hand. 1 2
skatewash Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, oldcpu said: My wife has a Thai friend with a falang husband (in his 70s) who initially entered the data incorrectly when registering, and has been unable to successfully register for the vaccine as a result. His Thai wife, to help him sort it, actually had to go to Phuket immigration a couple of times, to have his vaccine registration attempt via the vaccine web site cancelled, so he could try again on line. We heard earlier today that he finally succeeded. I have no idea as to how immigration are tied into this registration (for a vaccine) but somehow, if what I was told is correct, they are in the 'loop' and to restart with a clean registration attempt, they are involved in cleaning out the old incorrect registration attempt. .... Hopefully that tidbit will help - and I apologize in advance for my not having more detail, but I am hearing this information about immigration involvement 3rd hand. Immigration using Nationality and Passport Number would be in a position to determine what the currently registered address for the foreigner was (determined by the filing of a TM-30) which Phuket immigration has required for some time when getting an extension of stay. Even short-term visitors possibly have a TM-30 filed on their behalf by hotels where they have stayed. I think this is the likely reason for the involvement of the immigration bureau in the vaccination program. 1 1
Agusts Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 So I waited and today checked again, now I also get another venue option offering AZ jab , first shot on 2 July, next 22 Sep.... , as well as the two Sinovac jabs option I had in July....., decision decision....! ???? ? 1
CANSIAM Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, skatewash said: Immigration using Nationality and Passport Number would be in a position to determine what the currently registered address for the foreigner was (determined by the filing of a TM-30) which Phuket immigration has required for some time when getting an extension of stay. Even short-term visitors possibly have a TM-30 filed on their behalf by hotels where they have stayed. I think this is the likely reason for the involvement of the immigration bureau in the vaccination program. My TM30 is Bangkok, presently in Phuket, ( Delaying my BKK return for obvious reasons ) I just registered and says 'pending approval', so its possible my registered address will prevent me from approval ? thanks
Popular Post skatewash Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Agusts said: So I waited and today checked again, now I also get another venue option offering AZ jab , first shot on 2 July, next 22 Sep.... , as well as the two Sinovac jabs I had in July....., decision decision....! ???? ? Factors to consider: 1) effectiveness of the vaccine brand 2) time required to be fully vaccinated (2 doses) 3) whether you need to leave and re-enter Thailand in the immediate future (1 dose of AZ allows you do this). 4) where you are planning to travel, some countries may or may not recognize the vaccination you receive. 3
skatewash Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, CANSIAM said: My TM30 is Bangkok, presently in Phuket, ( Delaying my BKK return for obvious reasons ) I just registered and says 'pending approval', so its possible my registered address will prevent me from approval ? thanks Don't know. It's not uncommon to get "pending approval" initially. Can take a day or so to get to "approved" status. While I think Immigration can determine where you live based on TM-30 filings, I don't know whether they are doing this or not. I guess I would wait a day or so and check back into phuket.win (gray button option) to see if your status has changed. You can't count on being notified by SMS you need to proactively check yourself. If it's not being approved and if you think it's related to the TM-30 issue, you could self-file a TM-30 at Phuket Immigration and then see if it has any effect on your vaccination registration status. Also, strange as this sounds, vaccines are becoming available all the time apparently. People have sometimes been successful just by repeatedly checking their status at phuket.win. Sometimes, it changes and they are able to book an appointment, where minutes before it said there were no appointments. Or possibly the system is a bit flakey and sometimes for technical reasons it doesn't display all the appointments available and then other times it does. Once you have an appointment you're good but people have had different experiences getting to that point. 1
skatewash Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, skatewash said: Factors to consider: 1) effectiveness of the vaccine brand 2) time required to be fully vaccinated (2 doses) 3) whether you need to leave and re-enter Thailand in the immediate future (1 dose of AZ allows you do this). 4) where you are planning to travel, some countries may or may not recognize the vaccination you receive. 3) should be: whether you need to leave and re-enter Phuket [not Thailand]. One dose of AZ will get you back into Phuket but not Thailand. 1
DaveC Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, oldcpu said: My wife has a Thai friend with a falang husband (in his 70s) who initially entered the data incorrectly when registering, and has been unable to successfully register for the vaccine as a result. His Thai wife, to help him sort it, actually had to go to Phuket immigration a couple of times, to have his vaccine registration attempt via the vaccine web site cancelled, so he could try again on line. We heard earlier today that he finally succeeded. I have no idea as to how immigration are tied into this registration (for a vaccine) but somehow, if what I was told is correct, they are in the 'loop' and to restart with a clean registration attempt, they are involved in cleaning out the old incorrect registration attempt. .... Hopefully that tidbit will help - and I apologize in advance for my not having more detail, but I am hearing this information about immigration involvement 3rd hand. Thank you very much for the info and that is really constructive and positive news. I will try to let as many people know by sharing this link on my website
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 non- WP vax started four days ago yet no recent “jabbed” posts ... ? if you still cant register or cant get an appt. & you are over 60 with Pink ID ( or not) try just going to a vax centre 8am with your passport & pink card and plead your case; say you had an appt. but disappeared from phone they allow two “concession” appts each day where the vax appt QR code can be waived......I know that this approach can work...... 1
skatewash Posted June 28, 2021 Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said: non- WP vax started four days ago yet no recent “jabbed” posts ... ? if you still cant register or cant get an appt. & you are over 60 with Pink ID ( or not) try just going to a vax centre 8am with your passport & pink card and plead your case; say you had an appt. but disappeared from phone they allow two “concession” appts each day where the vax appt QR code can be waived......I know that this approach can work...... I was jabbed on 25/06/2021. Posted here:
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