Thailand reports 4,662 new COVID-19 cases, 36 more deaths

[wensiensheng]

These days I am not so interested in the specific daily case number because of the issues surrounding testing, or not testing, some people who turn up at hospitals. The number may be inaccurate enough to make it less useful than it otherwise would be.

 

I am more interested in whether the delta strain is making up a bigger percentage of the number that do get tested. That would give some indication of whether it is indeed on its way to becoming the predominant strain in Thailand.

 

could be good or bad news, depending on which way it goes.

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Just now, robblok said:

Ok then credit where credit is due Germany. But then why is the production in the US if the research was in Germany ? But anyway the top vaccines are made in the US. 

Pfizer had the manufacturing expertise and the facilities to get it done quickly.

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Pfizer had the manufacturing expertise and the facilities to get it done quickly.

So what your saying is the research was done by Germans in Germany and the production in the US. Nice then i would say its more European then US. (I mean idea wise). Seems then that Germany needs to get the credit for inventing the best vaccine against covid in Europe.

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9 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Sorry, the article is behind a pay wall, but that does not matter.  The above sentence implies my question is very valid. Which future variants. Why?
 

Because SARS2 is new to humans. It is therefore making major adaptive changes to better attack humans, and to evade immune system defences. It is not currently driven by antigenic drift.

 

The researchers will need to step up to the plate and address such questions.

You think that these researchers didn't the points you raised into account? They might just possibly have a lot deeper understanding of these issue than you or I. And their research was published in Nature. Not exactly one of the shabbier scientific journals out there.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said:

10 prison cases ???????? yeah right.

They think we zip up the back mate. 

[FarFlungFalang]

17 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

These days I am not so interested in the specific daily case number because of the issues surrounding testing, or not testing, some people who turn up at hospitals. The number may be inaccurate enough to make it less useful than it otherwise would be.

 

I am more interested in whether the delta strain is making up a bigger percentage of the number that do get tested. That would give some indication of whether it is indeed on its way to becoming the predominant strain in Thailand.

 

could be good or bad news, depending on which way it goes.

Testing numbers of people receiving an initial test each day would be pretty handy and it doesn't seem to be as important to publish this information which is what indicates a withholding of the real situation and I have not scene this issue raised in any local media.Not even any explanation And no noises from Dick Wheelbarrow.Not a peep anywhere.It's like a brick wall limiter past which this info cannot pass.

Edited June 29, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[rabas]

17 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

These days I am not so interested in the specific daily case number because of the issues surrounding testing, or not testing, some people who turn up at hospitals. The number may be inaccurate enough to make it less useful than it otherwise would be.

 

I am more interested in whether the delta strain is making up a bigger percentage of the number that do get tested. That would give some indication of whether it is indeed on its way to becoming the predominant strain in Thailand.

 

could be good or bad news, depending on which way it goes.

 

Read the BP post this morning.  It's up to 25% in Bangkok.  They now plan to sequence a percentage of all local cases to keep track of delta's growth in the city.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

18 minutes ago, robblok said:

So what your saying is the research was done by Germans in Germany and the production in the US. Nice then i would say its more European then US. (I mean idea wise). Seems then that Germany needs to get the credit for inventing the best vaccine against covid in Europe.

Pfizer is an American company and the vaccine is manufactured in Europe by BioNTech.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13154699/who-owns-pfizer-where-company-based/

[smedly]

12 minutes ago, robblok said:

So what your saying is the research was done by Germans in Germany and the production in the US. Nice then i would say its more European then US. (I mean idea wise). Seems then that Germany needs to get the credit for inventing the best vaccine against covid in Europe.

is it manufactured in Europe ?

 

and what is the point of this conversation

 

The drug is being produced at BioNtech and Pfizer facilities in Germany and Belgium as well as in other countries, Pfizer said in a statement.

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31 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Sorry, the article is behind a pay wall, but that does not matter. 

https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/covid-19-vaccine-generates-immune-structures-critical-for-lasting-immunity/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

is it manufactured in Europe ?

 

and what is the point of this conversation

 

The drug is being produced at BioNtech and Pfizer facilities in Germany and Belgium as well as in other countries, Pfizer said in a statement.

Point was that i thought it was a 100% American thing but its not according to the other poster. I thought Europe only made B vaccines like Astra but it seems we also have the capability to design and produce A vaccines. 

[Lorry]

 

47 minutes ago, rabas said:

the article is behind a pay wall

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2

This is the article NYT refers to, without paywall.

BTW if you register NYT gives you several free articles per week

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/health/coronavirus-vaccine-immunity.html

An optimistic follow-up.

 

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[blackcab]

A post containing a graphic has been removed. This is because the post did not contain a link to the source.

 

If you post graphics, charts or statistics relating to Covid-19, please include a link to the source, otherwise your post will be removed.

[dinsdale]

41 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

These days I am not so interested in the specific daily case number because of the issues surrounding testing, or not testing, some people who turn up at hospitals. The number may be inaccurate enough to make it less useful than it otherwise would be.

 

I am more interested in whether the delta strain is making up a bigger percentage of the number that do get tested. That would give some indication of whether it is indeed on its way to becoming the predominant strain in Thailand.

 

could be good or bad news, depending on which way it goes.

Yes but can I add. To be accountable I think we need true testing numbers, % of infected within those numbers, where testing is occurring and then those infected broken down into variant %.

[Bkk Brian]

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 146 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with four new deaths on June 29th.

 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/29/chonburi-announces-146-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-with-four-new-deaths/

[Misty]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the Pfizer vaccine is a German creation. And if you take account of the national origins of its creators, a Turkish-German creation.

 

Katalin Kariko, a US immigrant from Hungary, gets some credit too:

 

"The development of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine, the first approved jab in the West, is the crowning achievement of decades of work for Hungarian biochemist Katalin Kariko, who fled to the US from communist rule in the 1980s. "

 

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20201218-katalin-kariko-the-scientist-behind-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine

 

 

 

[Enzian]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Look like the AstraZeneca is just a B level vaccine compared to the more innovative US vaccines.  

I had the AZ here in Bangkok a week ago, and then decided for a matrix of reasons to fly out. It will be interesting to see what my GP at Kaiser in Oakland in three weeks recommends to follow up with. And there is no supply problem there with any of them, to my knowledge.

[Bkk Brian]

In Thailand’s conflict-hit ‘Deep South’, mistrust fuels Covid-19 vaccine hesitancy among Muslim majority

 

As Thailand contends with its deadliest wave of the pandemic yet, the vast majority of people in Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat provinces have not had a jab

Those who have are overwhelmingly Buddhist. Years of conflict and martial law have made the region’s Muslims deeply suspicious of government intentions

 

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3139074/thailands-conflict-hit-deep-south-mistrust-fuels-covid

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8 minutes ago, Enzian said:

I had the AZ here in Bangkok a week ago, and then decided for a matrix of reasons to fly out. It will be interesting to see what my GP at Kaiser in Oakland in three weeks recommends to follow up with. And there is no supply problem there with any of them, to my knowledge.

I don't think you can get inoculated with Astra zenica vaccine in the USA

[Bkk Brian]

55 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Read the BP post this morning.  It's up to 25% in Bangkok.  They now plan to sequence a percentage of all local cases to keep track of delta's growth in the city.

 

25%, thats quick, I read somewhere they thought it may take 2 or 3 months to become the dominant strain but it looks like it will be much sooner than that.

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Enzian said:

I had the AZ here in Bangkok a week ago, and then decided for a matrix of reasons to fly out. It will be interesting to see what my GP at Kaiser in Oakland in three weeks recommends to follow up with. And there is no supply problem there with any of them, to my knowledge.

Let us know as I am interested and may end up doing the same by flying out and back to the house in California, if the hoops are not to onerous to get back. I just don't want to stay away from my family here until whenever, and is why I have stayed.  I did have the AZ last week as well.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't think you can get inoculated with Astra zenica vaccine in the USA

You can not, I think he was talking about which vaccine his GP in California would recommend to complete the vaccination process that would be good for him.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Those who have are overwhelmingly Buddhist. Years of conflict and martial law have made the region’s Muslims deeply suspicious of government intentions

Which side of the fence does Scientology sit on the covid vaccines.

[Enzian]

15 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Let us know as I am interested and may end up doing the same by flying out and back to the house in California, if the hoops are not to onerous to get back. I just don't want to stay away from my family here until whenever, and is why I have stayed.  I did have the AZ last week as well.

Luckily I am renting here with no family ties, and have an apt waiting in Berkeley. My gf will go home to Khon Kaen with some ongoing help from me. I no longer care when I come back here, even if I have to let my non-O expire in Dec. It could be middle of next year; it's a big world.

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10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You can not, I think he was talking about which vaccine his GP in California would recommend to complete the vaccination process that would be good for him.

I don't think so. He said he was going to fly out and in 3 weeks ask his doctor about what to do next. Anyway, maybe he'll enlighten us further.

[Olmate]

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The Chonburi Department of Public Health announced 146 new and confirmed cases of Covid-19 today with four new deaths on June 29th.

 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/06/29/chonburi-announces-146-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-with-four-new-deaths/

 One case in Naklua,the rest well out of Pattaya and mainly close contacts of former. Well done Pattaya folk for following the guidelines.!

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 One case in Naklua,the rest well out of Pattaya and mainly close contacts of former. Well done Pattaya folk for following the guidelines.!

One case that's been sequenced you mean, I wonder how many more there are in reality, be that Pattaya or any other province in Thailand.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Well done Pattaya folk for following the guidelines

Does that include the two location in Pattaya with 2 groups having a party. One walking st area and other close by.

 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

So in comparison the AZ vaccine is a B list celebrity or Pornstar, while the Others are A-listers and no wonder why the Hi-So's flew to the US to get vaccinated just like many of the doctors here I know.

I fancy a trip to Vegas. Do you know if I could get into the US easily and get a vaccine as a tourist? 

[Olmate]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

One case that's been sequenced you mean, I wonder how many more there are in reality, be that Pattaya or any other province in Thailand.

 

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Does that include the two location in Pattaya with 2 groups having a party. One walking st area and other close by.

 

Click the link and read thecase info.