Sinovac not inferior: Anutin

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Anutin Charnvirakul. Reuters file photo.

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul has said Sinovac is not inferior to other vaccines, adding that all vaccines save lives.

 

Mr Anutin's comments came after it was revealed last week that he would require a fourth booster shot in order to attend a World Health Organization meeting in Switzerland later this month.

 

Mr Anutin first received two doses of Sinovac in February, as well as a third booster of AstraZeneca. 

 

However, it has now been revealed that he would need a fourth booster shot if he was to visit Switzerland.

 

Mr Anutin said that the reason for a fourth booster shot was not because Sinovac is somehow inferior to other vaccines. 

 

But rather was needed in order to meet entry requirements for Switzerland.

 

He said that the issue is due to Switzerland, and other countries, not yet allowing quarantine free entry for people who have been vaccinated with Sinovac or Sinopharm. 

 

He also said that Switzerland, as well as some other countries, do not yet recognise the so-called mix and match vaccination policy which has been implemented by the Thai government. 

 

Because of this, Thailand may now be forced to rethink its vaccination strategy, he conceded. 

 

He added that people who have been vaccinated with Sinovac and Sinopharm may need to get an additional mRNA vaccine if they need to travel overseas. 

 

According to the Swiss Federal Office of Public Health, people who have been vaccinated with either Sinovac and Sinopharm can enter the country. However, they are unable to apply for a Swiss COVID certificate.

 

 

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[Thaiwrath]

More <deleted> from the construction mogul, to try and save face !

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Because of this, Thailand may now be forced to rethink its vaccination strategy, he conceded. 

[mtls2005]

5 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He added that people who have been vaccinated with Sinovac and Sinopharm may need to get an additional mRNA vaccine if they need to travel overseas. 

 

 

It will get interesting when thailand starts using its own homegrown vaccine, like ChulaCov19.

 

I doubt that thailand will seek and obtain country-by-country approvals for this vaccine if/when they start using it.

 

 

[Karma80]

4 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Because of this, Thailand may now be forced to rethink its vaccination strategy, he conceded. 

 

He added that people who have been vaccinated with Sinovac and Sinopharm may need to get an additional mRNA vaccine if they need to travel overseas. 

Who could have possibly known? Everyone + science.

But, where you can you get an additional mRNA vaccine in Thailand? Nowhere.

[Jerno]

Is he retarded or just plain stupid?  Sheesh!

[Bkk Brian]

13 minutes ago, Karma80 said:

Who could have possibly known? Everyone + science.

But, where you can you get an additional mRNA vaccine in Thailand? Nowhere.

He didn't read his own Thai studies..................

 

Thai study finds 2 doses of Sinovac can’t beat Delta variant, AstraZeneca can

[Chad3000]

It would appear the scientists in Switzerland differ on the matter.

[Swiss1960]

As per the link in the main article: He would have been allowed to enter Switzerland and THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO QUARANTINE for him. 

HOWEVER: With the vaccine combination he has, he would not have gotten a Swiss Covid certificate, for which every visitor to Switzerland can apply by showing his/her vaccination status. EU certificates are also accepted, but obviously not the Thai certificates (why might that be???). This certificate he would need to enter buildings or do activities such as :

- go check his Swiss bank accounts

- enter restaurants to go eat and drink

- go into any red light establishment and bars 

- go skiing in any mountain resort

 

So he might have been able to attend a UN event, but he probably did not want to go there in the first place...

[pseudorabies]

Obviously Switzerland and many other countries do not have the same unconditional love and blind (misplaced?) trust of China that Mr. Anutin and others in this administration have.  The people of Thailand have been made to suffer because of his actions and inaction.  It's good to see that he's experiencing some of that as well.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

So he might have been able to attend a UN event, but he probably did not want to go there in the first place...

Possibly however it also barred him from......................

 

"Based on a press release issued by the Swiss Federal Council, starting from Monday, the certificate will be required to access indoor areas, such as restaurants, bars, theatres, concerts, cinemas, and other private events.

 

Access to cultural and leisure activities such as zoos, libraries, museums, fitness centres, water parks, swimming pools, and casinos will also be limited to only COVID-19 certificate holders. In addition, the certificate will also be mandatory for those who wish to access indoor sporting and cultural activities."

 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/switzerland-makes-covid-19-passport-mandatory-for-accessing-restaurants-other-indoor-spaces-including-for-tourists/

 

 

[Swiss1960]

9 minutes ago, Chad3000 said:

It would appear the scientists in Switzerland differ on the matter.

That is a wrong statement. People who are vaccinated with Sinovac are allowed to enter Switzerland, but Sinovac does not enable you to get a Swiss Covid certificate, which you need for MOST activities in Switzerland, like going to eat, skiing, concerts etc. See my post above

[poohy]

Evidently It is if you want to get into Switzerland

[ezzra]

He will have more credence to his words had he or his any of his family would be shown in public getting vaccinated with Sinovac, until than his words means nothing...

[Chad3000]

1 minute ago, Swiss1960 said:

That is a wrong statement. People who are vaccinated with Sinovac are allowed to enter Switzerland, but Sinovac does not enable you to get a Swiss Covid certificate, which you need for MOST activities in Switzerland, like going to eat, skiing, concerts etc. See my post above

Understood.

 

As ridiculous as Thailand.

[DavisH]

We must rethink this policy, because I couldn't go on my junket. 

[Saanim]

Any similar "serious" comments on Thai forums by Thai people in UK about the fired UK health minister - what was his name? Afterwards, hasn't he been supposed for another good position, however, it's not going forward? 

Edited November 14, 2021 by Saanim

[Swiss1960]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Possibly however it also barred him from......................

 

"Based on a press release issued by the Swiss Federal Council, starting from Monday, the certificate will be required to access indoor areas, such as restaurants, bars, theatres, concerts, cinemas, and other private events.

 

Access to cultural and leisure activities such as zoos, libraries, museums, fitness centres, water parks, swimming pools, and casinos will also be limited to only COVID-19 certificate holders. In addition, the certificate will also be mandatory for those who wish to access indoor sporting and cultural activities."

 

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/switzerland-makes-covid-19-passport-mandatory-for-accessing-restaurants-other-indoor-spaces-including-for-tourists/

 

 

While it is true that the UN requires visitors to prove that they are vaccinated, Mr. Anutin as a diplomat would be able to attend UN meetings, the Swiss authorities would have nothing to say about that.

He might however find it difficult to even book a hotel room in Geneva without a Swiss Covid certificate (besides not being allowed in any other place), so he would have to sleep on the couch in the Embassy of Thailand in Bern.

[DrMJA]

So Khun Anutin “Muppet”, why exactly did Switzerland refuse you entry? 

Anutiny, love you jup jup your favorite dirty farang! 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/public-health-minister-barred-entry-to-switzerland-over-vaccine-requirements

[dinsdale]

BEIJING (AP) — China’s top disease control official, in a rare acknowledgement, said current vaccines offer low protection against the coronavirus and mixing them is among strategies being considered to boost their effectiveness.

He also praised the benefits of mRNA vaccines, the technology behind the two vaccines seen as the most effective, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, months after questioning whether the then-unproven method was safe.

https://apnews.com/article/china-gao-<deleted>-vaccines-offer-low-protection-coronavirus-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9

This is from April 11 pretty well pre-Delta.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

While it is true that the UN requires visitors to prove that they are vaccinated, Mr. Anutin as a diplomat would be able to attend UN meetings, the Swiss authorities would have nothing to say about that.

He might however find it difficult to even book a hotel room in Geneva without a Swiss Covid certificate (besides not being allowed in any other place), so he would have to sleep on the couch in the Embassy of Thailand in Bern.

I don't think it would be very diplomatic to be breaking the rules and claim diplomatic status as a reason to attend UN meetings, do you have a link to that?

[Kerryd]

45 minutes ago, Karma80 said:

Who could have possibly known? Everyone + science.

But, where you can you get an additional mRNA vaccine in Thailand? Nowhere.

Surprisingly, a friend of mine posted a photo of one of his relatives getting his first shot of Moderna a couple days ago. Remember that a bunch of Moderna was donated to Thailand but there was a lot of controversy about who was going to get allocated how much and how much would be set aside for those who already paid for it.
(Not surprisingly, I'm registered at 2 different hospitals and haven't heard a peep from either one about when they think they will get the vaccine.)

Anutin has had his nose up China's *** ever since he joined Prayut's gov't (probably long before that). Remember early on in the crisis when he was spouting off about the "dirty farangs" compared to the "clean Chinese" (despite the fact that, at that time, all of the corona cases in Thailand were caused by people coming from China) ?

The whole gov't is an excuse away from joining Cambodia and Burma both in their authoritarian gov'ts and subservience to China.

 

[Orinoco]

I think it's well funny Switzerland pulling his pants down.

Could not have happened to a nicer guy

Good job 

[bobandyson]

50 minutes ago, Jerno said:

Is he retarded or just plain stupid? 

All of the above.

[Kinnock]

What's the difference between a 'second booster of Astra Zeneca' and the normal 2 dose AZ vaccination regime?

 

If possible, best to just skip the Chinavacs.

 

[djayz]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

He said that the issue is due to Switzerland, and other countries, not yet allowing quarantine free entry for people who have been vaccinated with Sinovac or Sinopharm. 

Ergo, it is THEIR fault/mistake, not the vaccines. Thank you for putting that issue to bed once and for all. 

[wombat]

Is Sinovac the one not accepted by America for travel?

[wtfracing]

Karma 

[Kadilo]

42 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

As per the link in the main article: He would have been allowed to enter Switzerland and THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO QUARANTINE for him. 

HOWEVER: With the vaccine combination he has, he would not have gotten a Swiss Covid certificate, for which every visitor to Switzerland can apply by showing his/her vaccination status. EU certificates are also accepted, but obviously not the Thai certificates (why might that be???). This certificate he would need to enter buildings or do activities such as :

- go check his Swiss bank accounts

- enter restaurants to go eat and drink

- go into any red light establishment and bars 

- go skiing in any mountain resort

 

So he might have been able to attend a UN event, but he probably did not want to go there in the first place...

Thanks for that, good to get the facts without the usual comedy show. 

[ChrisY1]

Not inferior in Thailands' view.....just rejected by the western world!