Soi Nana bars deserted: Thai media doing everything to link and blame Omicron for nighttime woes

[natway09]

Interesting article but not much truth to it.

Obviously saying what the Government wants to hear or writer not in the know.

If you want to open your bar in Nana area (not gogo) Mr Plod will oblige, just make the stipulated donation. Been like that for a month now when bar owners took it into their own hands.

To the best of my knowledge no bars "prosecuted in lower Sukhumvit & if you think worth opening,

go for it

[Will B Good]

They are all in soi 7........so much better than Nana.

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

Answer me this, how come the UK has approx 70000 covid cases a day still, this country now has approx 7000 a day and the UK is pretty much back to normal and we are still in this rut all muzzled up??

You've answered your own question. The UK has opened up and has 10x more cases than Thailand, which hasn't opened up (despite the government saying it has).

[LoeiI]

4 hours ago, RichardL said:

As for masks, I hate wearing them, and I know that the masks most people wear aren't very effective at all in preventing you from picking up the virus. They are more effective (albeit far from perfect) at stopping you spread the virus if you have it.

I'm not sure anyone particularly enjoys wearing them but why wouldn't you want to try and stop the spread of the virus if indeed you did have it ?? ????

[Thunglom]

4 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

If a quick google search is correct UK is around 90 per cent double vaccinated and Thailand is about 66 per cent at best. In Australia there were changes to mask rules at 70 and 80 per cent. Basically I think at some point the government can wash there hands of it and say that anyone who wanted a vaccine could have gotten one so responsibility passes from the government to the individual.

I booked a cheap ticket in February but masks are a factor in my decision of whether to go or not. Doesn't sound like fun walking around the hotel to Karon beach in Phuket wearing a mask all the time. 

 

UK - is reintroducing masks in various situations

Vaccination not only reduces the severity but also the transmutability.

Omicron however is still an unknown.

I wouldn't travel at present because I don't know what restrictions will be introduced in the next few days/weeks at either end of the trip.

[Megasin1]

5 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

5 hours ago, Megasin1 said:

Thats an easy one to answer - higher vaccine take up. Currently stuck in UK, but received my booster on 29th November and although I like going to Thailand I'm in no particular hurry to go anywhere at the moment, especially not to a complete fluster cluck. Maybe the world will never be as global as it was but who really cares. Im looking at a nice Hymer and if I commit that will be the next 4 years sorted and my only concern will be how to travel around Europe without going through France ????????????

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True enough about the vaccine take up, but lets face it this will still be pretty much the same when more get vaccinated, and I don't know the figures but it must be pretty high here now % wise.

To be fair I doubt that anybody knows and most likely they just guess the numbers in Thailand. It wasn't particularly surprising that for all their preposterous beaurocracy they couldn't actually locate a few Africans and  their vaccination records are probably as well organised as a mad old ladies poop. They achieve an excellent mark (and gold star) for creating complicated systems, but unfortunately they don't score anything for data management and control, ????????????

[cncltd1973]

5 hours ago, kenio said:

Maybe that´s why UK have 70.000 cases aday, and 145.000 dead.

 

you can trust UK's numbers as accurate, you'd be foolish to trust this regime's numbers. they have a lot to hide and a lot of face to save

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

It's just an utter disaster, I am utterly sick of everything now. Also sick of wearing these damned muzzles and being looked at like I'm evil personified if heaven forbid the thing isn't covering my nose..

 

Answer me this, how come the UK has approx 70000 covid cases a day still, this country now has approx 7000 a day and the UK is pretty much back to normal and we are still in this rut all muzzled up?? Both countries have similar populations.

Fear of the walking dead. It is working for the goons. They are continuing to use Covid as a cover, to impose draconian restrictions on protestors and they are employing fear and panic as a weapon. 

[pomchop]

10 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

There's been talk for many years that Nana Plaza was to be redeveloped, maybe this will be a catalyst?

(There was talk for about 10 years that Washington Square was to be redeveloped......then it wasn't.......and then it was).

and the soi 7 beergarden has been torn down and redeveloped for decades...according to rumours...yet it is still there...pretty much same same with some different girls

[daveAustin]

9 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

Answer me this, how come the UK has approx 70000 covid cases a day still, this country now has approx 7000 a day and the UK is pretty much back to normal and we are still in this rut all muzzled up?? Both countries have similar populations.

A, UK is mostly vaccinated

B, UK is grown up

C, UK figures are accurate

D, UK is moving on

E, Thailand’s figures are still bs

F, Thailand is run by utter despotic, self-aggrandising nincompoop children

G, The people are easily swayed, cajoled, controlled

 

[kiwikeith]

11 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Looks more like a slum area.

The whole world is being driven into panic over omicron, while there has been no official studies released yet, they are expected to be released in about 2 weeks time. 

Most of what has been spoken of from SA Dr's is that this variant will take over from Delta and looks like its only causing mild sickness, we will get those answers soon, but meanwhile the media are drumming up a storm over little O. 

[kiwikeith]

2 hours ago, cncltd1973 said:

you can trust UK's numbers as accurate, you'd be foolish to trust this regime's numbers. they have a lot to hide and a lot of face to save

If you want to look up the official figures you’re going to find countries with the highest vaccination rates are experiencing huge spikes  in infection 

Israel, Germany, Netherlands,England etc.

[The Deerhunter]

10 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

All news media here is tightly controled by this government.

 

You can easily find the truth online though.

 

 

A VPN is essential though!

[Thunglom]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

A, UK is mostly vaccinated

B, UK is grown up

C, UK figures are accurate

D, UK is moving on

E, Thailand’s figures are still bs

F, Thailand is run by utter despotic, self-aggrandising nincompoop children

G, The people are easily swayed, cajoled, controlled

 

UK new cases 3rd Dec were  50k, average 44k.

UK has reintroduced mask wearing and compulsory testing of ALL new arrivals.

[Thunglom]

2 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

If you want to look up the official figures you’re going to find countries with the highest vaccination rates are experiencing huge spikes  in infection 

Israel, Germany, Netherlands,England etc.

this spike will without doubt begin in Thailand in the next 2 weeks. A lot depends on how much they can slow down the advent of omicron.\thailand is almost completely out of the wet season (except in the South) and this is a good thing for reducing close or indoor contact and concomitant transmissions.

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by Thunglom

[The Hammer2021]

14 hours ago, RichardL said:

The UK has much higher vaccination rates, and also a higher tolerance to death numbers. Thailand gets 50 deaths a day, and the nation panics. The UK gets 200 a day, and nobody bats an eyelid.

As for masks, I hate wearing them, and I know that the masks most people wear aren't very effective at all in preventing you from picking up the virus. They are more effective (albeit far from perfect) at stopping you spread the virus if you have it.

 

There does seem very little point making people wear them outdoors though.

 

I don't think I'd want to take a holiday anywhere where I have to wear a mask most of the time though. I find it too uncomfortable. It feels 'mildly suffocating', like the annoyance of having a blocked nose. I also don't really like having things on my face/head. I hate wearing hats, even when it's really cold, for example. I have to wear glasses to drive, and it's always a relief to take them off. I can fully understand why nations bring in such restrictions. I'm just against the logic of where they are applied.

You don't like wearing hats!?

[Boomer6969]

17 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Nana was no good anyway. 

I tend to agree with you.

 

But I might change my mind by midday. 

 

Had good sex with Mrs. Boomboomer  last night.

[Johnny Mac]

10 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You've answered your own question. The UK has opened up and has 10x more cases than Thailand, which hasn't opened up (despite the government saying it has).

Come on fella. let's get it right. I don't know exact figures of course, but I believe cases in the UK have stayed more or less the same since they reopened?

 

You also completely missed my point, which was why have the UK decided to live with Covid, like many other countries have, yet we are still cowering behind our sofas and all masked up? But as some have already said this country doesn't have as many vaccinated as some other countries, so fair enough, but have this gov gave a target to open up after a high level of vaccination percentages like Aus and NZ did?? I highly doubt it.

[Johnny Mac]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Fear of the walking dead. It is working for the goons. They are continuing to use Covid as a cover, to impose draconian restrictions on protestors and they are employing fear and panic as a weapon. 

Yep. Exactly what is going on. In Aus and NZ the gov had a target of around 80% fully vax'd and then they would open up. They reached those targets and have now opened up? Have the Thai gov set any such targets?

[sandyf]

17 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

Answer me this, how come the UK has approx 70000 covid cases a day still, this country now has approx 7000 a day and the UK is pretty much back to normal and we are still in this rut all muzzled up?? Both countries have similar populations.

Back to normal?

Try looking at the NHS waiting lists or book a doctor's appointment.

People are dying while they wait and it is not from covid.

[johnarth]

well people seem to be waking up after a two year sleep lol

[Johnny Mac]

28 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Back to normal?

Try looking at the NHS waiting lists or book a doctor's appointment.

People are dying while they wait and it is not from covid.

Daily life is back to normal. That is what I meant, as you well know. Don't you have a wife to pick a fight with?

[peter zwart]

Not only in Thailand. The devastating role, in this Corona period, media plays world wide is something that is byond believe. Instilling fear, half-truths and twisting numbers is the order of the day with disastrous results.

[elgenon]

On 12/3/2021 at 6:24 PM, Danderman123 said:

I was on Soi 4 the other night. Plenty of bars operating as restaurants, with Farang customers.

Are there "takeaway girls"? Quality? Quantity?

[Danderman123]

20 minutes ago, elgenon said:

Are there "takeaway girls"? Quality? Quantity?

More than you can handle. 

[elgenon]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

More than you can handle. 

Thanks for the report.

[toofarnorth]

16 hours ago, sambum said:

Most people in the UK have been vaccinated, so if they catch Covid very few of them are seriously ill, whereas Thailand is still playing "catchup" with its Government's vaccination programme, and ill or not, you are whisked off to hospital - possibly taking up beds that are needed by people who are seriously ill - and not necessarily just Covid. And answer me this - what is the logic behind being required to wear a "muzzle" while riding a motor bike ?

Your last sentence .  When I come out of a supermarket the first thing before putting in the shopping is my blasted mask comes off and I shout OFF.  Just before sun down me and 'er indoors ride our pushbikes through the rice fields , a mile to Ban Hoi then back.  My wife puts on a mask , we may not see another soul but on goes her mask.  Worse are the locals that want to talk to you but keep the mask up. I give up , I really do.

[The Hammer2021]

17 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

True enough about the vaccine take up, but lets face it this will still be pretty much the same when more get vaccinated, and I don't know the figures but it must be pretty high here now % wise.

 

As for the masks, I can see us being 'told' you wear them for frigging years..

People in Thailand and SE Asia in general don't need to be 'told' to wear masks. It's only entitled white visitors for whom it is an imposition, for whom it is a 'human right' that need to be told.

[Johnny Mac]

10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

People in Thailand and SE Asia in general don't need to be 'told' to wear masks. It's only entitled white visitors for whom it is an imposition, for whom it is a 'human right' that need to be told.

Ooohhhh, racist!

 

I think you will find it's because entitled white visitors generally have a backbone and can think for themselves, rather than taking orders like sheep from 'authorities' with no questions asked. Yes sir, no sir, 3 bags full sir. I fully assume you fit into that category. 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Johnny Mac

[Danderman123]

40 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

Your last sentence .  When I come out of a supermarket the first thing before putting in the shopping is my blasted mask comes off and I shout OFF.  Just before sun down me and 'er indoors ride our pushbikes through the rice fields , a mile to Ban Hoi then back.  My wife puts on a mask , we may not see another soul but on goes her mask.  Worse are the locals that want to talk to you but keep the mask up. I give up , I really do.

What's worse is when you are infected with Covid and they intubate you. I understand that is quite uncomfortable.