Pattaya is a high risk place to visit with all the old self entitled retiree's walking around with no masks on.

[davidst01]

I just had a visit to Pattaya and stayed at the Hilton. My buddy has a condo next door at View Talay condo building. 

 

I was surprised about the number of old guys walking around with no masks on. 

 

I visited my pal at his VT condo. He showed me around and I saw a lot of old guys with no masks around. We got in the lift and a guy (from America) walks into the lift with no mask. I said something. He said 'I can put a mask on if it bothers you'....

 

If you fall into the anti mask category please explain your decision not to wear one. It seems a bit selfish not to wear one around other people in public. 

[dj230]

Same thing in Bangkok as well, 

[Ohyesuare]

The same ones that never wear condoms either, what do you expect. 

[connda]

27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

They don't seem to work, so why bother.

Especially in a lift, you'll be breathing his exhaled air, mask or not.

Safer to take the steps if the thought of infection worries you.

The OP is no doubt double or triple vaxxed so he's perfectly safe as the Covid vaccines are 'effective.' 
Don't worry, be happy!  Modern science will keep you perfectly safe.
But for those who worry - wear a N95 or N99 mask.  You'll be fine.  Don't worry about the other guys.  They'll all die for sure! 

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

27 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:

The same ones that never wear condoms either, what do you expect. 

They were a high risk even before the lack of masks, producing many other risky emanations. There's the lack of personal hygiene, the smoking, the flatulence from somtam ped ped. And indeed, when they send nongchai diving without any gear. ????

Edited January 13, 2022 by CrunchWrapSupreme

[scubascuba3]

i wear a mask to follow the rules but most of us know it's a waste of time and makes little difference especially outside. Vaccines on the other hand were a game changer

[The Hammer2021]

Yes its irritating but I'm not sure about your  demographic description. Last night in Pattaya  the mask less were exclusive young, pale foreigners often couples but in the  supermarket elderley  male foreigners  were in evidence wearing masks wrongly

[ezzra]

Those chavs, and there are many of them running around, thinks that just because they're in Pattaya they can do whatever they like, hopefully these berks will fall ill and it will cost them a bundle to get better, IF they get better...

Edited January 13, 2022 by ezzra

[The Hammer2021]

50 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

i wear a mask to follow the rules but most of us know it's a waste of time and makes little difference especially outside. Vaccines on the other hand were a game changer

Actually  as more and more information  is collated even as recent  as yesterday mask wearing is proving to be, along with social distancing, very effective at cutting down on covid spread. There is some very interesting research  on droplet spread and survival which is very encouraging BUT people will believe  what they want to due to confirmation bias. Fortunately I like masks and think they are great fun..

[Chris.B]

48 minutes ago, Ohyesuare said:

The same ones that never wear condoms either, what do you expect. 

How do you know? Ohh!   hahaha 

 

[The Hammer2021]

https://guardian.ng/news/world/masks-block-99-9-of-large-covid-linked-droplets-study/

[Chris.B]

4 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

https://guardian.ng/news/world/masks-block-99-9-of-large-covid-linked-droplets-study/

Well there you, in black and white for all you doubters!

What a fine newspaper is the Nigerian Guardian.  ????

 

[jacko45k]

Was in town today... quite a few with masks down walking outside in the streets.... better discipline in the Mall. With daily cases in Banglamung high, there is reason to beware.

[The Hammer2021]

21 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

Well there you, in black and white for all you doubters!

What a fine newspaper is the Nigerian Guardian.  ????

 

Actually  The Manchester  Guardian published a similar  articles yesterday and I thought  I was linking  to that..

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/covid-loses-90-of-ability-to-infect-within-five-minutes-in-air-study

Edited January 13, 2022 by The Hammer2021

[TropicalGuy]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

They don't seem to work, so why bother.

Especially in a lift, you'll be breathing his exhaled air, mask or not.

Safer to take the steps if the thought of infection worries you.

Agree cloth masks are medically near useless but it’s seen as anti social not to mask up in public unless at table, or in nightlife zone where everyone is presumed vaxxed with around 80% farang not masked. .

[RubenRemus]

10 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said:

Agree cloth masks are medically near useless but it’s seen as anti social not to mask up in public unless at table, or in nightlife zone where everyone is presumed vaxxed with around 80% farang not masked. .

Except the data shows that there is a benefit. 

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2022/1/12/22881114/do-masks-really-prevent-omicron-heres-what-we-know-covid-n95-risk

[The Hammer2021]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/covid-loses-90-of-ability-to-infect-within-five-minutes-in-air-study

[TropicalGuy]

2 minutes ago, RubenRemus said:

Except the data shows that there is a benefit. 

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2022/1/12/22881114/do-masks-really-prevent-omicron-heres-what-we-know-covid-n95-risk

I’m clearly referring to single layer std cloth masks worn here by 99%!not N95 or medical grade masks.

[onthedarkside]

Properly and consistently worn masks, especially the better ones, help prevent the spread of the virus.

 

CDC weighs recommending better masks against omicron variant

 

Agency is likely to say that people who can consistently wear N95 or KN95 masks, rather than cloth masks, should do so

 

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is considering updating its mask guidance to recommend that people opt for the highly protective N95 or KN95 masks worn by health-care personnel, if they can do so consistently, said an official close to the deliberations who was not authorized to speak publicly.

 

With the highly transmissible omicron variant spurring record levels of infections and hospitalizations, experts have repeatedly urged the Biden administration to recommend the better-quality masks rather than cloth coverings to protect against an airborne virus, and to underscore the importance of masking.

 

“The agency is currently actively looking to update its recommendations for KN95 and N95 in light of omicron,” the official said. “We know these masks provide better filtration.”

 

(more)

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/10/cdc-weighs-n95-kn95-masks-guidance-omicron/

 

[The Hammer2021]

26 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

theoretically certain masks maybe helpful but in the real world they do little, In Scotland people still wear masks and Omicron is widespread

..Many variables  are at play.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/covid-loses-90-of-ability-to-infect-within-five-minutes-in-air-study

Believe  what you want

Edited January 13, 2022 by The Hammer2021

[a3tsw]

1 hour ago, Ohyesuare said:

The same ones that never wear condoms either, what do you expect. 

I tried using a condom once , but my specs wouldn't stay on!

[Screaming]

It's a matter of choice, many people choose to smoke and therefore put themselves in danger of cancer. I do not go around and tell them to stop smoking. Also many foreigners are grossly obese, I also do not tell them to go on a diet or stop eating.

[daveAustin]

“all the old self entitled retiree's”

 

Like the generalisation—I’m neither btw. So if I were to say everyone visiting Pattaya was a perve, that encapsulates you too right? See what I did there?

Masks: in the lift he was out of order, but the policy on the street is oppressive. Do you wear to stop you catching colds and flu? In case you hadn’t noticed it’s everywhere, stuffing a mask over your face while sunbathing and swimming won’t do much bar make you look a tool and ruin quality of life. Bemused at those so quick to accept the latter. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

In case you hadn’t noticed it’s everywhere, stuffing a mask over your face while sunbathing and swimming won’t do much bar make you look a tool and ruin quality of life. Bemused at those so quick to accept the latter. 

 

The practical point of wearing a mask against COVID is to do so when you're going to be in relatively close contact with others, especially in an indoors setting. 

 

Reasonable people exercise some common sense in their mask wearing practices to protect their health and the health of others.

 

But that doesn't include avoiding face mask wearing entirely based on silly arguments such as in talking about mask wearing and swimming.

 

[Bangel72]

Consensus is that we will all get covid at some point, if you are not boosted though you are still at high risk so should probably just stay home until you get your booster.

 

The boosted though should likely live life as normal, the faster everyone gets omnicron the quicker herd immunity will build up.

 

This is different now from the early mad ideas about herd immunity purely because we are talking about groups with two jabs and a booster alongside a potentially milder strain that likely puts less pressure on the hospitals.

 

Consider UK currently, yes it skyrocketed but looks like its coming down again within a month.

 

If we slow the spread too much then we will still be here in years to come.

 

The lack of jabs for under 18's though remains a risk.

 

Not quite suggesting covid parties just yet though, likely though a market for covid positive only zones to party in.

 

 

[rott]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

i wear a mask to follow the rules but most of us know it's a waste of time and makes little difference especially outside. Vaccines on the other hand were a game changer

In my experience it's the long stayers, retirees or whatever who do wear masks. It's the know-it-all tourists who think they are clever by not wearing them. This is Thailand, I am a foreigner, if Thailand says wear a mask I wear a mask. No big deal. 

[bbko]

17 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The practical point of wearing a mask against COVID is to do so when you're going to be in relatively close contact with others, especially in an indoors setting. 

 

Reasonable people exercise some common sense in their mask wearing practices to protect their health and the health of others.

 

But that doesn't include avoiding face mask wearing entirely based on silly arguments such as in talking about mask wearing and swimming.

 

Pattaya has more than it's share of contrarians.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I actually began wearing N95 face masks regularly in Bangkok a couple years ago before COVID ever came along -- to protect my health against the seasonally bad air pollution/PM2.5 epidemics.

 

I don't think ANYONE particularly enjoys wearing a face mask every time they go outside. But after a couple years of doing so now -- first for air pollution and now for COVID -- it's just become a routine habit that I don't think about much and certainly doesn't bother me or create any unbearable burden.

 

Yes, I want my "free-dumb" just as much as the next person -- the "free-dumb" to protect my own health, and to help protect the health of those around me. It's me doing my small part for the greater social good.

 

 

Edited January 13, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[The Hammer2021]

44 minutes ago, Screaming said:

It's a matter of choice, many people choose to smoke and therefore put themselves in danger of cancer. I do not go around and tell them to stop smoking. Also many foreigners are grossly obese, I also do not tell them to go on a diet or stop eating.

Obesity is not infectious

As smoking is clearly  illegal  indoors in most countries  you do not need to tell people to stop as the law does that for you already. Your comparisons are not logical.

[bkk6060]

I see most wearing masks.

But, believe or not there are people out there that want to get Omnicorn.  All the "it is like a cold" reports are making some not care and I guess they feel after they recover immunity will kick in.

Interesting, western countries are seeing big hospital surges and still deaths sure seems like more then just a cold.

 

 

The idea of intentionally trying to catch omicron is "all the rage," said Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, with an exasperated sigh.

"It's caught on like wildfire," agreed Dr. Robert Murphy, executive director of the Havey Institute for Global Health at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.

"And it's widespread, coming from all types of people, the vaccinated and boosted and the anti-vaxxers," he added, with a warning. "You'd be crazy to try to get infected with this.

It's like playing with dynamite".