Twenty percent of donated Pfizer vaccines from US must go to foreigners living in Thailand, says CCSA general

[rbkk]

6 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

Lets hope there is enough survivors by the time it gets here lol. 

And who is going to keep count I wonder??  Its like handing out a bunch of 1,000 baht notes to a stranger and asking him/her to hand them out to any foreigner they pass.  ????

 

This month, July and August 2021.

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/1-5-million-pfizer-doses-donated-by-us-to-go-to-senior-citizens-pregnant-women

 

2 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

Presumably this 1.5 million batch is part of Joe Biden's 500 million doses which he announced as his Great Vaccine Giveaway prior to last month's G7 summit. IMHO it is only right that local American expats should be at the front of the queue.

 

I look forward to reading on another thread that the chief of Thailand's National Security Council and head of the CCSA has also told the Thai media that foreigners living in Thailand must receive 20% of whatever number of doses have been donated to Thailand by the UK as part of Boris Johnson's Great Vaccine Giveaway of 100 million doses, which was announced at the same time as Biden's. Needless to say, we Brits, of course, should be at the front of the queue in this case.

It's part of a separate 80 million doses donation.

 https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/us-announces-plan-share-80-million-excess-vaccine-doses

[rbkk]

With the low storage temperature requirements for Pfizer mRNA, I'm guessing there will be a large number of people who will have to travel further than their local hospital, to receive it. A logistics nightmare here in Thailands heat.

[Scott]

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[Albert Zweistein]

15 hours ago, pseudorabies said:

I'd take one shot of Pfizer/Moderna vs 2 or 3 shots of the Sino-stuff any day

I take one shot of Famous Grouse daily.

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32 minutes ago, rbkk said:

With the low storage temperature requirements for Pfizer mRNA, I'm guessing there will be a large number of people who will have to travel further than their local hospital, to receive it. A logistics nightmare here in Thailands heat.

I'm assuming you're referring to the early days when the vaccine was recommended to be stored at a temperature no greater than -70 Centigrade. That's long since been revised upwards. Now it can be stored for up to 6 months in a freezer at -25 to -15 degrees Centigrade. Many household freezers can do that. In addition, once defrosted, it can be stored in a refrigerator for a month at 2 to 8 degrees centigrade.

[Soikhaonoiken]

Another freebies from Another Country...... 

But at least  farang might get vacciated ????

Edited July 6, 2021 by Soikhaonoiken
Missed words

[vinci]

to be honest, i don't think we American will see a dose of those donate vaccine, i already register private hospital for Moderna even that might fail, hope for the best

[aussienam]

16 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

WOW!

 

That's 300,000 doses, so enough for ~ 140,000 people.

 

One assume U.S. citizens will be at the front of the line.

 

China donated vaccines with the stipulation that their citizens here got vaccinated.

 

 

Natives will get restless. Seeing a protest on Wireless Road this week.

 

 

 

 

The majority of the foreigners therefore will be the Chinese.  They pull the strings here.  300,000 to the Chinese. 

[misterjames]

5 hours ago, kennw said:

Why cant they be honest?

That is the question that we will never fully get an answer to, it makes no sense and often the lies are much harder to maintain than the truth, seems to be something cultural but I still haven't figured it out yet even after 10+ years of living in LOS.

[cdemundo]

17 hours ago, Thailand said:

I thought Pfizer only required one dose?

I guess that is half right.

[cdemundo]

8 hours ago, Magenta408 said:

They are saying it's nothing but the gosh darn flu.

Golly.

 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, moe666 said:

Does it matter who gets the shots, every person who gets a shot helps everyone else.

Not exactly.

Vaccinated people can still get infected and they can still infect others. 

The main benefit of getting vaccinated is to greatly reduce the chance of a severe case or death if infected.

Look at the U.S. now.

Pretty high vaccination rates by now.

But people are still getting infected and people are still dying.

99 percent of people that are dying are unvaccinated.

Everyone that can should get vaccinated ASAP.

Which brings up the issue of vaccine access.

Living in Pattaya, I can tell you that at the current time there is NO PATH for a typical expat in Pattaya to even register for a vaccine in Pattaya. 

This Pfizer announcement seems incredibly vague.

I'm not seeing the details of what that will exactly mean for expat access.

I still think this is an emergency and our EMBASSIES should get involved.

End of the year and first quarter next year will be TOO LATE for many people. 

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Not even the PM, the Cabinet, senators, MP's and Army Generals.......seriously?

They likely had them already......

[mtls2005]

Hopefully this gets sorted out soon. This vaccine could arrive in a matter of days.

 

 

 

Malaysia received their 1 MM doses donation of Pfizer on Monday.

 

 https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/us-donation-of-one-million-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-arrives-in-malaysia

 

 

Thaiger article suggest similar, doses to be administered this month and August.

 

 

1.5 million Pfizer doses donated by US to go to senior citizens, pregnant women

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/1-5-million-pfizer-doses-donated-by-us-to-go-to-senior-citizens-pregnant-women

 

[J Town]

If you take a step back, this pandemic has exposed what a stupid species we are. It doesn't matter what your nationality is, until we vaccinate the world, we all stay in danger. Selfish nationalism and greed is killing us off.

[jeffandgop]

So this guy, the head of the CCSA says "The supplies are due to arrive before the end of the year said Gen Natthaphol Nakphanich speaking to Thai PBS yesterday. "

 

The Bangkok Post posted today "Some officials of the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) had said earlier that 1.5 million doses donated by the US would arrive this month and next month."

 

The ongoing mis-communication, re-direction, and total lack of transparency.

[Scott]

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[mtls2005]

So close...draft agreement.

 

The cabinet has also approved a draft agreement between Thailand and the US on the latter's offer to supply Thailand with an additional amount of Pfizer shots, he said.

 

 

So still being negotiated. CCSA General leaked this for a reason, I'm guessing.

 

 

Edited July 7, 2021 by mtls2005

[mikebell]

On 7/6/2021 at 8:12 AM, webfact said:

The media did not explain why a proportion of the donated lot would have to go to foreigners such as whether it was a stipulation of the donation. Or whether it would be free.

Farangs get nothing free in Thailand except disdain.

[Presnock]

17 hours ago, John Drake said:

Before you gloat over the vaccine, better wait and see how things play out. US government/embassy are the same people who cancelled our income letters because it was too much work for them.

from what I heard the embassies cancelled because ex-pats were not able to justify what they claimed they were receiving.  The missions lost a lot of monies by cancelling the letters so I am of the opinion that the reason they gave was justified.

[Presnock]

8 hours ago, aussienam said:

The majority of the foreigners therefore will be the Chinese.  They pull the strings here.  300,000 to the Chinese. 

Chinese have already had theirs just like the govt officials care givers...now they'll probably be the ones to get the donated for ex-pats!

 

[joebrown]

12 hours ago, tonysilly said:

If someone gave you a gift, would you go out and sell that gift?? Americans should be 1st in line, them of course the Rich or connect Thais. FREE!!!!!!!!

The Thai Government gifted the land in Wireless Road to the UK on which the Embassy was built. If the UK can sell a gift, I'm sure the Thais are equally capable of doing the same.

[Almer]

On 7/6/2021 at 8:25 AM, Surelynot said:

This is going to do wonders for our image..........I imagine many Thai's will be rejoicing at the news we will get 20% of 'their' vaccines.

They will understand I'm sure

[jomtienisgood]

On 7/6/2021 at 8:45 AM, Thailand said:

I thought Pfizer only required one dose?

J&J is only one dose (for the moment).

[jomtienisgood]

9 hours ago, placeholder said:

I'm assuming you're referring to the early days when the vaccine was recommended to be stored at a temperature no greater than -70 Centigrade. That's long since been revised upwards. Now it can be stored for up to 6 months in a freezer at -25 to -15 degrees Centigrade. Many household freezers can do that. In addition, once defrosted, it can be stored in a refrigerator for a month at 2 to 8 degrees centigrade.

I can rent out my freezer for a while against a few doses. Present temp. -24 Degrs C. and can go lower if needed....

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Just a side note here....

 

NOWHERE in anything that I've read on this thus far does it say that the set-side doses will be reserved just for Americans....   All the language I've seen, based on the comments of one Thai general, talks only about foreign nationals in Thailand.  Who knows what the actual conditions really are.

 

It will be interesting to see just how this plays out, and where the set-aside vaccines end up going.... and whether the U.S. Embassy will end up getting involved in their distribution, or will wash their hands of the whole thing, and leave it to the Thai government.

 

"or will wash their hands of the whole thing, and leave it to the Thai government." I hope they don't do that, all it will do is add to the "there will be no coup" unelected PMs offshore account.

[jomtienisgood]

18 hours ago, Presnock said:

just gotta admire (not) the jealousy that pops out from locals and local foreigners when Americans get what should be provided by their country even when the US is DONATING proven vaccines for anyone and at the same time is providing access to other proven vaccines for this country's use as well as for other countries.  I have seen it for many years in many different countries where those that do not nor can not live full time in the US try to belittle the very things that they wish they could have.  I definitely am not saying that the US is best of everything but for freedom of thought, expression, benefits for its citizens that are usually earned, and only because so many liberals today want to change the govt to be more like other countries (i.e. socialist countries that have universal health care which is driving those countries to bankruptcy, free college, etc) we are a capitalist republic which means everyone has the opportunity to excel in life but it usually must be earned.  I will not apologize for being born an American, I am proud of that fact.  While we are at it, the4 US also just recently DONATED $30 million USD to the Thai govt to help them fight the virus.  So, not only are WE helping our citizens here, we are helping everyone here.  I hope all who deserve it get the vaccine of their choice and they and their families avoid the virus and I hope that the Thais that have lost just about everything due to the shutdowns can get back to work.

 

Good morning (Vietnam) Bruce S.  

[mudcat]

A good start for the Embassy would be to notify those U.S. citizens (and possibly LPRs) whose contact information is registered through the State Department's STEP program - we already receive notifications through email from the Embassy, so an RSVP invitation to a private needle party should be easy to arrange 

 

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1 hour ago, mikebell said:

Farangs get nothing free in Thailand except disdain.

Not so sure about that. How much are you paying for self-pity?

[HaoleBoy]

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

from what I heard the embassies cancelled because ex-pats were not able to justify what they claimed they were receiving.  The missions lost a lot of monies by cancelling the letters so I am of the opinion that the reason they gave was justified.

Crock of xxxx !   They didn't do ANYTHING when verifying "proof of income".  You just stated what you had coming in and signed it.  They just notified it.