It is not a problem for me to change country but I foresee that the best solution to go to another country even if it is your country to go there for a certain period and see how you are always keeping your home in Thailand, after several years also yours country has changed and therefore it is always better to be cautious and being a tourist for a certain period is always the best solution until you decide for another country and perhaps evaluate all the pros and cons you could decide to stay in Thailand, your idea of going there initially as a tourist is the best idea.

4 minutes ago, likerdup1 said:

 

The real challenge is to find good sex toys in this country... my girlfriend is at her wit's end and more jealous by the minute as her friend's expat husband brought her a Hitachi super wand with the power prikley attachment from home!  Now that's about put me over the edge ... I swear I'm on the next plane back to blighty.

Try fruit n vege

5 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Try fruit n vege

You don't know my girlfriend.. she's been over spending the budget on cucumbers and carrots while I've been away. She is complaining and jealous of her friends toys. She says.. honey carrot have no USB!!! It's back to blightly for me and a trip to the ye olde sex shoppe  to keep the woman happy. In the mean time I'll get my 2 shots of Moderna and a couple penicillin (you know just in case). 2 weeks in Quarantine and back to LOS

1 minute ago, likerdup1 said:

You don't know my girlfriend.. she's been over spending the budget on cucumbers and carrots while I've been away.

Cheap and can eat after

Double bonus

2 hours ago, Anton9 said:

Yeah I am considering it for the first time after 10 years.

And for me it's mostly about Covid, I don't see an end to the crazy restrictions and lack of freedom.

I'd rather find a quiet little island and  be a hermit for a year. Certainly better than going back to Scotland and the sideways snow. 

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

My advice is, smoke more cannabis, drink more beer, and meet the occasional young Thai Friendly women. ................ Oh and play Metallica "Nothing Else Matters" a lot.

Came back to the UK on April 22nd for 3 months. Needed heart problem resolving, vaccine and visit family.

 

Quickly discovered that my heart problem was mainly due to the heat in Thailand which quickly resolved itself. Now, after a bank of tests, have been given a clean bill of health.

 

Had both doses of vaccine followed by Indian variant of Covid. I must be bulletproof now.

 

Had nightmares with applying for Phuket sandbox and had to cancel flight. i then received news from my Thai neighbour that my wife had been cheating on me (true or not, I'll never know). It was the final straw for Thailand and I pulled the plug after 7 years.

 

I have secured a nice apartment within walking distance of my wife, my best friend and my local pub.

 

Local bar had decent metal bands on Friday and Saturday night accompanied by as much Stella as you can drink. Never seen so many big breasted women in years.

 

The town is awash with cannabis and I haven't smoked so much in years. Also a pleasure to vape without the attention of the police which has helped me to transform from a 60 a day smoker to a non smoker.

 

Biggest bonus is spending quality time with my first grandchild. Doubt that I'll ever return to Thailand.

18 hours ago, david555 said:

broke the normal "coup code " as before to return baracks after 6 to 8 month's after organizing elections

Glad some other people understand this.

5 minutes ago, polpott said:

Came back to the UK on April 22nd for 3 months. Needed heart problem resolving, vaccine and visit family.

 

Quickly discovered that my heart problem was mainly due to the heat in Thailand which quickly resolved itself. Now, after a bank of tests, have been given a clean bill of health.

 

Had both doses of vaccine followed by Indian variant of Covid. I must be bulletproof now.

 

Had nightmares with applying for Phuket sandbox and had to cancel flight. i then received news from my Thai neighbour that my wife had been cheating on me (true or not, I'll never know). It was the final straw for Thailand and I pulled the plug after 7 years.

 

I have secured a nice apartment within walking distance of my wife, my best friend and my local pub.

 

Local bar had decent metal bands on Friday and Saturday night accompanied by as much Stella as you can drink. Never seen so many big breasted women in years.

 

The town is awash with cannabis and I haven't smoked so much in years. Also a pleasure to vape without the attention of the police which has helped me to transform from a 60 a day smoker to a non smoker.

 

Biggest bonus is spending quality time with my first grandchild. Doubt that I'll ever return to Thailand.

Well, good on you mate!

 

I like the sound of the decriminalised choof.

 

And let's see if you get as lucky with the big breasted British ladies as the Thai ones.

 

As for the heat and your heart. That is fascinating. I reckon smoking 60 a day will do it too though

1 hour ago, HeijoshinCool said:

And where do you see an end to them?

The day I can get a lap dance at Club Electric Blue without either of us having to wear a mask - THAT will be a return to normal.

3 hours ago, fdsa said:

 

 

could you elaborate please? I actually support the lockdown and happy to be in Thailand right now because my home country looks like a zombie-apocalypse with close to one thousand Covid deaths daily. Australia is the place I plan to relocate to, once they open the borders.

 If you want to see zombie apocalypse go to Pattaya, place is becoming resident evil.

On 7/31/2021 at 7:29 PM, zzaa09 said:

Always greener pastures elsewhere.

????

Sahara desert

2 hours ago, HeijoshinCool said:

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And where do you see an end to them?

Everywhere.

Most countries in Europe,Latin America,North America,Africa have far less restrictions and life is pretty much back to normal.

Worse than Thailand there's probably only Malaysia and Philippines.

23 hours ago, bkkflyer said:

Have been here since 97/98 - it was a lot more fun around that time - THAT is for sure ????

 

Amen to that!

 

14 hours ago, cmarshall said:

 Covid deaths per hundred thousand of population, which is the ultimate "score" of how well a government managed the pandemic.

 

Thailand     6.72

Spain          173.09

US               186.76

Waste of time including Thailand on any comparison charts—serious issues with recording/collating of data from an autocratic regime, then there’s your porous borders etc etc. If something looks suspect, it usually is. 

Recommend a long break (when possible) and avoid the news Mike. But nowt wrong with having a whinge about the state of play and that scumbag regime. Doesn’t make one a hater. That’s just butthurt baby boomers miffed that someone would criticise their paradise. I’d be worried if still there as they are increasingly erratic and will change things on a whim—different now than past govs. Would like to return eventually but the place has got itself into a right old mess. Everywhere is not worse!

18 hours ago, Rocking Robert said:

Just stop all the crying and just leave

Nobody will miss them.  These guys that can't adapt to a new culture don't belong and are the ones that usually give all farangs a bad name anyways.  The less of them in Thailand the better.

7 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Recommend a long break (when possible) and avoid the news Mike. But nowt wrong with having a whinge about the state of play and that scumbag regime. Doesn’t make one a hater. That’s just butthurt baby boomers miffed that someone would criticise their paradise. I’d be worried if still there as they are increasingly erratic and will change things on a whim—different now than past govs. Would like to return eventually but the place has got itself into a right old mess. Everywhere is not worse!

I kinda agree.

 

Folks moan about a sorts of stuff, home country or wherever they currently land.

 

In Thailand it is often,and I include myself, that when boredom with the place sets in things just irritate you.

 

That's the point at which you know it's time for a change.

 

I've in cities within countries which I've become bored with and wanted a change. Didn't hate them, but just wanted something different.

 

To many on here any hint of criticism of Thailand is deemed to be a reflection on their choice  to stay in Thailand.

 

I often muse why some would get so defensive, but to quote George Smiley; 'the zealot is always harboring secret doubts'

9 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Waste of time including Thailand on any comparison charts—serious issues with recording/collating of data from an autocratic regime, then there’s your porous borders etc etc. If something looks suspect, it usually is. 

In that case no discussion of comparative Covid death rates can occur, because most or all countries undercount deaths and new infections.  As I pointed out the confirmed Covid death count in the US is 613.223.  However, based on excess deaths during the period the true number is more than 900,000.  Probably the Thai statistics undercount as well, but the relationships among the countries I cited is probably close to the truth.  Friends of mine in the US know people who have died of Covid.  No one I know in Thailand knows anyone who has died of Covid.

 

1 hour ago, GinBoy2 said:

I kinda agree.

 

Folks moan about a sorts of stuff, home country or wherever they currently land.

 

In Thailand it is often,and I include myself, that when boredom with the place sets in things just irritate you.

 

That's the point at which you know it's time for a change.

 

I've in cities within countries which I've become bored with and wanted a change. Didn't hate them, but just wanted something different.

 

To many on here any hint of criticism of Thailand is deemed to be a reflection on their choice  to stay in Thailand.

 

I often muse why some would get so defensive, but to quote George Smiley; 'the zealot is always harboring secret doubts'

Nah you see you had to have a pop at those intelligent enough to alleviate boredom and relaxed enough to negate the need to whine about occasional imperfection. Starting another brand new day, have a good one.

15 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Nah you see you had to have a pop at those intelligent enough to alleviate boredom and relaxed enough to negate the need to whine about occasional imperfection. Starting another brand new day, have a good one.

Oh silly me, it's only the dumb who get bored!

I just look forward to post Covid times ...going to book an extended stay in Malaysia for about 2 or 3 months. Spend my time planning that trip now

10 hours ago, Anton9 said:

Everywhere.

Most countries in Europe,Latin America,North America,Africa have far less restrictions and life is pretty much back to normal.

Worse than Thailand there's probably only Malaysia and Philippines.

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Well, good luck, things are about to change dramatically in the next few months.

19 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Oh silly me, it's only the dumb who get bored!

Getting bored doing the same thing over and again might suggest to stop doing it?

Habitual whinging included?

 

12 hours ago, likerdup1 said:

You don't know my girlfriend.. she's been over spending the budget on cucumbers and carrots while I've been away. She is complaining and jealous of her friends toys. She says.. honey carrot have no USB!!! It's back to blightly for me and a trip to the ye olde sex shoppe  to keep the woman happy. In the mean time I'll get my 2 shots of Moderna and a couple penicillin (you know just in case). 2 weeks in Quarantine and back to LOS

Can i meet the friends?

10 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Can i meet the friends?

Free instructions offered

9 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Recommend a long break (when possible) and avoid the news Mike. But nowt wrong with having a whinge about the state of play and that scumbag regime. Doesn’t make one a hater. That’s just butthurt baby boomers miffed that someone would criticise their paradise. I’d be worried if still there as they are increasingly erratic and will change things on a whim—different now than past govs. Would like to return eventually but the place has got itself into a right old mess. Everywhere is not worse!

Really? I see baby boomers as the main source of Thai bashing. I also see many boomers that are gracefully loving life here but some just can't adjust to changes nor progress. The younger crowd sees a different Thailand that has moved from mostly a subsistence type of living for most to almost looking like a western society. Cars, homes, vacations, parties with friends and all the other extras a successful society represents.  The single family housing boom is incredible outside of Bangkok in the poorer provinces and very few seem to be destitute even now during Covid.  The poor seem to have adjusted to the current reality and the poor and middle class business owners are suffering is what I see.

 

As for leaving, at my older age I realize my happiness is amplified by where I'm at but the foundation is what I am.  The OP is unhappy and needs to look at his weaknesses and fragility and go into his move with a mind that sees differences as simply differences and stop the incessant judging.

On 7/31/2021 at 2:01 AM, spidermike007 said:

But, alot of it is army fatigue. And what feels like a diminishing quality of life. I am just very, very tired of the goon leaders here, the continued xenophobia from them, and their constant nonsense and lack of leadership. 

Did not read all the pages but in 2016 that is why we left.

We saw it  2 years into the coup.

Could see it was not like the rest & saw the direction Thailand was headed

For us it was the right decision & looking back we often say out loud how lucky we did.

 

We still visit a home we have there 2-3 months a year (not this last year)

But yeah if you think your tired now with this group...Wait till you see the next step

Hint: It is not better & will not even be a coup because there will be no govt to overthrow

when the current gang say bye bye & no elections nor campaigns can be held for a few more Covid years

 

Chok Dee !

25 minutes ago, atpeace said:

The younger crowd sees a different Thailand that has moved from mostly a subsistence type of living for most to almost looking like a western society. Cars, homes, vacations, parties with friends and all the other extras a successful society represents. 

You're right, I don't see that.

I see a thin veneer of civilisation thrown over a primitive tribal people.

And most of the extras from a decadent and failing western society.

 

I like it!

On 7/31/2021 at 7:03 PM, Broken Record said:

 No, I have lived here since 1990, I've got nowhere else to go.

Similar, but I have a feeling that at some time in the future the Thai Government will make that decision for me.

1 minute ago, watgate said:

Since I am very reluctant to get this experimental vaccine I am sure at some point, in order to remain in Thailand, you will be required to show proof of vaccine that I will be forced to depart Thailand. There is a very informative video on rumble named Dr McCullough- The never needed to be lockdowns, the covid myth" . If you go rumble and enter X22 report in the search box and scroll down to find the video named "Dr McCullough- The never needed lockdowns, the covid myth" you will hear the truth about the virus and the vaccines.

One truth among many possible truths.  You watched one video and many other intelligent videos state the opposite.  Maybe considering why lockdowns do work might improve your perspective. 

 

I'm not sure lockdowns work for many reasons. They have to be very restrictive and early in the virus cycle IMO.  If the virus has already spread throughout a population, a lockdown creates death homes.  See this in Peru and Indian reservations in the USA. Other factors are also at play and these are extreme examples. In the end, I just don't know and have decided to follow the consensus that they are beneficial.

 

Lockdowns might be a terrible decision societies made looking back 10 with more data.   Also, if you do a semi lockdown it may not really be accomplishing anything.   Other than vaccination, wearing a mask and social distancing make sense for a virus that spreads though the air we exhale/inhale.   I'll keep doing this and adjust my opinions as new data is available.

 

Does Dr. McCullough recommend not getting vaccinated?