Poll: More grandparents than parents are bringing up Thai children

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A Suan Dusit University poll has revealed that more family members and grandparents are bringing up Thai children than parents themselves. 

 

The poll - about the problems facing families with children up to 15 years old in the Covid-19 era - suggested that 49.14% of children were raised by grandparents and other family members and just 45.45% by mums and dads, reported Daily News.

 

77.64% said that raising children was harder in Covid times compared to pre-pandemic.

 

Finding activities for children and keeping them healthy were chief concerns.

 

74.57% were worried about their children getting Covid and 62.9% expressed concern about their education. 

 

It was reckoned that costs related to bringing up children were on average 7,974 baht for each child a month.

 

The total number polled between 15th and 18th November was 1,154. 

 

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[RafPinto]

A lot ofThai men don't care about their children.

Bum bum and off you go.

 

The burden is on the young mothers.

In order to support their child/ren, they often most go to bigger cities to earn some money to support child and parents.

No legal requirements for men to support their children.

 

For this, many thai women are keen to get a farang.

[GeorgeCross]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

A Suan Dusit University poll has revealed that more family members and grandparents are bringing up Thai children than parents themselves.

 

good for them.. i can't even get mine to baby sit

 

 

[connda]

3 minutes ago, webfact said:

A Suan Dusit University poll has revealed that more family members and grandparents are bringing up Thai children than parents themselves. 

Academics living above the strata and vulgarities of the normal Thai social classes need to conduct a poll in order to find out a fact that anyone who has lived in a Thai village can affirm as true.  In fact, even a farang like me knows as I live in the heart of Thai-Land.  The academics no doubt were raised by a live-in au-pair and then sent to an upscale boarding school and university in Farang-Land, so obviously they don't have a clue about their own culture.

[ChipButty]

I thought that was always the case in Thailand, Kids live with G/P while the mother are working as cashiers in Nana Plaza

[ikke1959]

And then in the past days I read about adoption of samesex couples, and all the so called problems if kids grow up with with same sex couples.... Now it seems , what we knew already, that most kids don't even grow up with their parents... I am wondering if kids living with 2 fathers or mothers not will be better educated than with the grandparents or /and other familymembers....

[ChipButty]

10 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

And then in the past days I read about adoption of samesex couples, and all the so called problems if kids grow up with with same sex couples.... Now it seems , what we knew already, that most kids don't even grow up with their parents... I am wondering if kids living with 2 fathers or mothers not will be better educated than with the grandparents or /and other familymembers....

I know some sad stories about kids living with G/P up in sticky rice land

[Tropicalevo]

And the least vaccinated age group are the over 60's. (Reuters)

[Lite Beer]

It has always amazed me how a mother can give her kids away.

If they cannot take care they should not have any.

[Joseph98765]

1 hour ago, RafPinto said:

A lot ofThai men don't care about their children.

Bum bum and off you go.

 

The burden is on the young mothers.

In order to support their child/ren, they often most go to bigger cities to earn some money to support child and parents.

No legal requirements for men to support their children.

 

For this, many thai women are keen to get a farang.

I'm talking with a girl, 35 years old and she told me she has kids but they don't live with her.... I was shocked because I thought the same as you, bum bum and go...

but this girl left the kids to the guy and she is looking for a farang (that is me for now) 55555

I still don't get it...5555

[jacko45k]

Needs must......

I see an opposing example in my wife's brother , who dotes on his daughter, a great example of a father. He and his wife both have responsible all-day jobs and depend on the wife's mother to take care of the child in the daytime. Fortunately living in their home. The mother is not in great health, so I imagine it is a struggle for her, and wonder what would happen if she became too frail to do the job. A much better situation than is commonplace, child with grandma in rural Issarn, mother plying her trade in the tourist spots, father unseen for a long time. 

[ChipButty]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that kids have been sold

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

1 hour ago, RafPinto said:

many thai women are keen to get a farang.

Heh, can't tell you how many times I've heard "Do you have any single friends in America?"

 

I just wrote about this in another thread, grandparents having to bear the burden. In the case of my village it's not the escaped fathers, they're actually still around. Hard working, usually staying out on the farms. It's their bratty daughters who are out of their control.

 

They can't deal with them with their hands full farming. They've repeatedly told them to do this and that, get a decent job, do housework, help out the fam. But they ran off to be bar girls, and now back in the village are princesses who can't be bothered to do much. When scolded it's off to the sympathetic grandparents they go, then eventually to live with their boyfriends. Then when their lazy boyfriends also aren't doing much either, it's back to the grandparents they go with a hand out.

[Geoffggi]

I have been living here quite a few years and this has been the norm as far back as I can remember, nothing new what so ever

[Orinoco]

1 hour ago, Lite Beer said:

It has always amazed me how a mother can give her kids away.

If they cannot take care they should not have any.

Kids to  most Thai people are just pension funds.

[kingstonkid]

I thought that this was the way it worked long ago in this country.

 

Grand parents look after the kids while mom and dad work to support grandparents and kids.

 

This is not a Thai thing only.  I was raised for the most part in my early years by my grandmother during the day.  I got up mom or dad dropped me off at Grandmothers and then if it was a school day I went to school and came home to grandmothers.  Mom or dad at tend of the day would pick me up and take me home.  

This allowed parents to work so that we could have a good house and good lifestyle.

To me it was far superior to this have a baby drop them at some strange persons house or business and leave them there.

 

At least the person looking after the kids cares about them.

Day care you are just a number and a paycheck.

[poohy]

2 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Majority of older Rural Folks here are as Dumb as Bricks and many are illiterate or semi-illiterate !

Harsh...... but totally true!

[Moonlover]

3 hours ago, connda said:

The academics no doubt were raised by a live-in au-pair and then sent to an upscale boarding school and university in Farang-Land, so obviously they don't have a clue about their own culture.

So these academics did not have a clue about their own culture and did not know that many kids are brought up by grandparents.

 

And yet they conceived a poll to find out the extent of an issue that they knew nothing about.

 

Do you not see just how illogical that notion is?

 

 

[PuaSai]

My wife and I do this and are looking to adopt ours.  I don't mind it in the least.

[Bosse137]

7974 Baht/month to bring up one child...Pensioners have 500/month from the government! Let`s say they have 3 grandchildren to bring up;thats about 30000 baht/month !! Plus x baht for their own living.Often children do not send any money,on the contrary,they often beg their poor parents to send them money! I know personally of 3 cases.How do I know? Well,because they come to beg my wife to lend them money to send to their daughters...Not even many young,fulltime working people, have that kind of money. So indeed,must be some high earning people who come up with this sums.Could be true in their families,expensive education,motorbike,mobils and so on.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

he poll - about the problems facing families with children up to 15 years old in the Covid-19 era - suggested that 49.14% of children were raised by grandparents and other family members and just 45.45% by mums and dads, reported Daily News.

With most working class adults both need to work to have a sufficient income to afford a family.

Nothing surprising.

[Expat68]

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that kids have been sold

Some years ago, I wanted to watch a particular sport while I was in Pattaya. I went to the sport bar and was quite happily sat there but there a girl who obviously did not belong (scared shirtless) after a while I decided to buy her a drink, she reluctantly sat with me, slowly I gained her confidence, I asked her in Thai why she was there, she told me that her family were paying off a debt. Once I left the bar I reported it to the tourist police, who I had connections with. Hope it turned out well for her, I often think about that day

[Orinoco]

4 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

Some years ago, I wanted to watch a particular sport while I was in Pattaya. I went to the sport bar and was quite happily sat there but there a girl who obviously did not belong (scared shirtless) after a while I decided to buy her a drink, she reluctantly sat with me, slowly I gained her confidence, I asked her in Thai why she was there, she told me that her family were paying off a debt. Once I left the bar I reported it to the tourist police, who I had connections with. Hope it turned out well for her, I often think about that day

How much money did you give her.  LOL.

[Expat68]

35 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

How much money did you give her.  LOL.

I didn't

[Orinoco]

12 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

I didn't

Why not.

Should have taken her for a St.

to help her.

if you believed her story.

They are called hookers for a reason.

 

 

 

[Expat68]

42 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Why not.

Should have taken her for a St.

to help her.

if you believed her story.

They are called hookers for a reason.

 

 

 

I did think of that but I was starting to feel uncomfortable myself (it was obviously her first day in the bar) I did not want any trouble and I thought that was the safest option, I am not a resident of Pattaya. The tourist police I contacted were from a different province but assured me they would follow it up with the local police. I have lived a long, long time in Thailand by the way, just so you understand

[Orinoco]

Just now, Expat68 said:

I did think of that but I was starting to feel uncomfortable myself (it was obviously her first day in the bar) I did not want any trouble and I thought that was the safest option, I am not a resident of Pattaya. The tourist police I contacted were from a different province but assured me they would follow it up with the local police

To be honest mate.

If you knew anything about the police in Thailand.

you would know,  your actions would result in one of two things.

A big zero. 

or very bad news for he family and her in the village, up country.

 

But, if you had gone to the same bar for two weeks straight, you may have come away with a different view of the so called situation. i did pattaya bar scene every day for about 15 years.

 See a lot and hear a lot and believe about 10% on a good day.

TIT.

 

 

[AustinRacing]

My sister in law living with her parents and no husband has three kids and does nothing for them. Stays in her room all day watching tv and going out at nights. So much so that the youngest can go to bed only with grandma. To me in these cases it is the fault of grandparents who allow this to happen. 

[Orinoco]

2 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

My sister in law living with her parents and no husband has three kids and does nothing for them. Stays in her room all day watching tv and going out at nights. So much so that the youngest can go to bed only with grandma. To me in these cases it is the fault of grandparents who allow this to happen. 

The grandparents, just take the easy root.

The kids grow up dim, selfish, and the little boys learn they are king very quick, this is carried on in to adolescence to retirement. LOL.

Ok not all are like this, but most are.

TIT. 

[BritManToo]

I'm not sure it's a bad thing.

As an old guy (65), I'm certainly a better parent now (kids aged 10 and 23), than I was as a young guy.

Much less shouting, no hitting, calmer and more considered in my parenting.

Not to mention I'm around all the time if they want anything.