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What Do You Think Is Good Value here?

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10 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Met a girl on Beach Road today took her for lunch only 700 b.

The meal was very good outstanding value I thought.

Did it include sex?

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9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Hotels are an amazing value here. They have skyrocketed in price in the US, due to Covid related gouging. Not here. When I travel here I stay in nice four star hotels in Bangkok. 1200-2000 baht. In the US? $150 for a crappy hotel. $200 to $500, and up for a nice room in a hotel. 

 

Restaurants can be a great value here. Also, Foodpanda. Had some friends over recently. We all selected from the menu. 7 dishes for 460 baht and 10 baht to deliver. Of course, I am in a smaller town. In big cities the prices are alot higher. Tried the same thing when I was recently in the US, on a similar app. 2 dishes were $44, plus the fees were $19. No thanks. Passed. 

I eat well here. In a smaller town you can get a three course meal for 200-250 baht. In the US? 2000 baht and up, plus tax and a nearly mandatory 15% tip.

And I get attitude for leaving a $15 or $20 tip. Here, I get nothing but gratitude for a 20-40 baht tip. 

 

Rent. I know people who pay 10,000 baht a month for newer 3 bedroom houses in nice towns. In major cities in the US? $2500-3800 a month. That is 138,000 baht!

 

Anything labor related here is reasonable.

I had my motorbike seat recently redone on my scooter. 400 baht. A friend of mine had similar work done in the US. $275.

 

I recently had a guy come over and insulate my ceiling. I bought the insulation and paid him 2000 baht for labor. In the US? $800 and up.

I recently had an electrician do some work on the house. Nearly a full day of work. Paid him 1000 baht. In the US? $800 and up.

 

An oil change for my scooter costs me 200 baht, with Castrol oil. In the US? $75.

 

I visit the emergency room here to visit a specialist, and with x-rays I am out the door for 2000 baht, at a private hospital. In the US? $300-2000.

 

Friends of mine, who are single, enjoy the company of a young, beautiful woman for a couple of hours, for 1500 to 2500 baht. In the US? $800 an hour now for a pretty gal, with alot of attitude.

 

A quote from a friend recently:

 

My neighbor told me she got a quote for a wood fence around her house.

 

It was around $8,800 ($2800 for the materials, labor (2 days), $6,000. 2 days at 8 hours a day = 16 hours of labor)

 

For $6,000 labor/16 hours that works out to be around $375 an hour labor.

 

Another neighbor got some quotes to get the outside of his house painted.

 

Average quote was around $5,000. He bought all the paint and supplies for $1500. Labor $3,500 and the house would have been finished in 1 day.

 

$3,500 divided by 8 hours of labor = $437 an hour to paint a one story ranch house.

 

He painted it himself.

 

It seems like all of the trades collude to keep the prices sky high. Tradesmen make more than most professionals here.

 

There is so much new construction going on in this area it is sick. People moving to Florida from everywhere.

 

I had a leaky faucet on the outside of the house. Called about 6 plumbers. None available for days. Average estimate was $375.

 

I could go on and on, all day long. I live at a level here, that I would never be able to live at, in the US, in most of Europe, in Oz, or Canada. Things are more expensive than they used to be. But, it is very relative.

Have a seasonal financial business in the US.  Been in CM for 6yrs going back the the US for 4mo while my family gets to live here for 12.  Been going on now for 6 years.  Have queried my clients recently about coming back to live in the US and their resounding opinion is, why!?

25 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Met a girl on Beach Road today took her for lunch only 700 b.

The meal was very good outstanding value I thought.

How was the dessert? 

35 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Met a girl on Beach Road today took her for lunch only 700 b.

The meal was very good outstanding value I thought.

A nice Noodle soup and a beer for 2 where I live 180 baht. 

9 hours ago, Celsius said:

 

It's not us dollars.

 

The fact that's built in 1967 just proves its worth. Show me how 1967 house looks like in Thailand .

 

The solar house for 1.6 million baht with no running electric just looks ridiculous. Probably submerged in water by now.

 

 

 

And here's detached. Many many more

 

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Saskatchewan?  Now that IS in the middle of nowhere! ????

9 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Seriously, you forgot, or deliberately left out that it:

 

1) Was built in 1967

2) Is semi-detached (not freestanding), is timber and adjoins a neighbouring dwelling, i.e. it has a common wall between it.

3) Has 3 bedrooms and 1 bathroom

4) Below from the advertisement

 

The main floor offers an eat-in kitchen and bright living room. Upstairs offers three bedrooms and a full family bathroom. Lower level is unfinished with lots of usable space. This house will require some TLC to bring it back to a higher standard 

 

When you convert CDA $68,000 to baht, you end up with just under 1.881,500 mil baht, that said, like I said in my previous post, a brand new 6 bedroom 3 bathroom 320 square metre (freestanding) brick ant tile, steel roof, concrete slab house built on a 1,000 square metres of land in 2015 cost me 2,120,000 baht all up.

 

The land size is similar 1,115 square metres vs 1,000 square metres, but we would be clutching at straws/

 

Come to think of it, what would the cost be to bring it up to scratch and of course, what would the cost of living be there ?

 

Now if you can't see the difference in value, then you just don't get it, and trust you me, I will NOT try to convince you, New Brunswick awaits you. 

 

 

    I looked at the listing, too, and came to your same conclusions.  Never a good sign when you see 'needs some TLC'.  Translated: Needs some big bucks.  Someone can always cherry-pick and find some dump somewhere to try to back up their argument.  Speaking of fruit, he could at least compare apples to apples and find a dump in a place that matches Thailand's year-round nice climate.  

6 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Sex is illegal?

Forum rules prevents me from answering ????

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10 hours ago, Celsius said:

Ok, let's try to be a bit realistic here.

 

As a matter of fact, you can find many houses in 1st world countries for cheap. They are not in NY, London or Vancouver. They are in the middle of nowhere, just like where your house is.

 

Try buying a house in Bangkok and then let us compare.

 

Even better, compare the 26 square meter influencer condo in Bangkok with nice amenities and a room where you can't even swing the cat. Then compare it to the average condo 60 square meter 1 bed condo in the big city first world country. Here an oven, dishwasher or God forbid a bathtub is a luxury. To rent or buy an equivalent condo you'd have to rent at Shangri La

     Not sure exactly what you're getting at with your Bangkok condo description but my partner and I actually own a 52 sqm condo in central Bangkok, next to Phetchaburi MRT.  Not quite 60 sqm but not too far off.  We're on the 37th floor of a very nice project, with a doorman--apparently a big thing.  Recently read about a condo buyer suing a developer in NYC because she bought a condo for 19 million dollars (not baht!) believing the salesman that there would be a full-time doorman.  And, there wasn't.  19 million bucks and no full-time doorman.  Oh, the humanity!

    Q Asoke condo, also nice, is next door.  The Address Asoke condo is across the street.  I will be the first to say that none of the 3 projects is a 98 Wireless.  Few are.  But, all 3 would be considered on the higher rather than the lower end for Bangkok condos, with a desirable location quite near to a metro stop and the Airport Link.  Nice neighborhood with a number of private schools, a large, new sports field, and we've been watching a spectacular new Mormon Temple complex being built across the street.  

    Our project has large pool, air-con gym, 5 floors of garage parking, sauna, men's and women's shower/ locker rooms, yoga room, big library, large sky lounge, sky garden, theater, big lobby with concierge, children's playroom, a meeting room, and a games room.  Not sure what other amenities an American condo would have--I know the US condos I owned, in nice projects, had far fewer amenities.  

    Anyway, we paid 6 million baht (not dollars) for our doorman condo.  About $171,000.  Spent another 500,000 baht doing some upgrading.  Doubt you could buy something similar for that price in the 'big city first world country' you speak of.  No oven but gorgeous granite counters and backsplash in our custom kitchen.  Can't say we miss an oven--prepared food and restaurants are everywhere and so reasonable.  

    Monthly maintenance fee is 45 baht a sqm, so 2,340 baht a month, about $67.  Wonder what the average condo monthly maintenance fee is for your first world condo.  I know I was paying $250  a month with the last condo I owned in Virginia.  Plus a homeowner's community fee and property taxes.   

14 hours ago, Celsius said:

Worst value on the entire planet.

Agreed. When selling land or a house I think Thais just make up the price based on how much money they dream of having someday. 

4 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

A nice Noodle soup and a beer for 2 where I live 180 baht. 

Beer's 140, soup's 40..... Hope the other way around...... Beer's 40 and who the f care soup!

5 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Beer's 140, soup's 40..... Hope the other way around...... Beer's 40 and who the f care soup!

2 noodle soups 30 baht each 2 large bottles chang beers 60 baht each.

 

Try adding that dumbo.

University girls. And factory girls. Cheap as chips. 

Som dtam 

 

All joking aside, fresh fruit sold from those side carts on motorcycles/push trollies. Peeled, diced and chilled. Ready to serve in just a few seconds. Dirt cheap and  usually good. Served with a smile from somebody earning a decent living. 

10 hours ago, CharlieH said:

My total shave head/face/ears nose etc is hard to beat for 100 baht. ????

Dare I say it ....Cheap Charlie. ????

Honestly speaking? 

 

One of the most valuable things I have enjoyed here is:

 

Eating Panang Gai with Jasmine Rice and a slice of Magroot at a beanery near the university, and overhearing students talk about their inept teachers. 

 

By the way, does anybody here know the difference between Magroot and Bai Magroot? 

 

And, for that matter, what is the difference between a Farang on a tree, and a Farang in the bush? 

 

So many riddles do we encounter here in Thailand. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

what is the difference between a Farang on a tree, and a Farang in the bush

Farang in tree......... ????

 

Farang in bush.......sex offender 

55 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Farang in tree......... ????

 

Farang in bush.......sex offender 

Totally agree with your interpretation....sometimes...

 

 

13 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Met a girl on Beach Road today took her for lunch only 700 b.

The meal was very good outstanding value I thought.

Try 120 baht

On 9/15/2022 at 7:47 AM, 2009 said:

Anyway, what do YOU think it GOOD VALUE over here?

The ladies....

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

    Thanks for posting.  I compared Pattaya, a beach city in Thailand, to Myrtle Beach, SC, a beach city in the US.  Apples to apples.  The calculator told me Myrtle Beach is 3 times as expensive to live in as Pattaya.  Knew it would be more expensive but 3 times as much was a good confirmation of what I've said a number of times that it is much cheaper for me living here than somewhere similar in the US.

14 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Internet 

Ah right! I forgot that one & yes internet is a great deal in Thailand! Cell Phone rates too!

Spooky! did an interesting sum yesterday of checking my electric usage so far this month compared to the UK as there was a tiny bit of news on BBC that stated almost 35p per unit and 10.5p for gas .

 

Right now here 520 units used at 5bt a unit 2,600 bt same in UK 520 units 18,200 bt I predict a riot ????

 

21 hours ago, pomchop said:

yeah right...go rent a condo in most any city in europe and compare it to rents in most any city in thailand,,,,,send me the difference in price please...

I wrote:" Except for the double pricing" it is exactly the same in Europe!


I wanted to say: Unnecessary operations, healthy teeth are "Treated", there is also in Europe!

 

Rents have never interested me.


But I think that it always depends on the claims!

 

In Thailand from 6000.-THB normal apartment.


But also 65.000.-THB and more are feasible ????

 

In the EU.....????  I do not know, am already too long away!

 

 

58 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Bit expensive

Any photo to prove where it’s cheaper?

 

Didn't think so. 

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