1 minute ago, morrobay said:

There is natural cellular T cell immunity in some individuals. Scroll down to: CD8+T cell response in covid 19, ' A higher proportion of CD8+Tcell responses was observed in patients who only developed mild disease. Also see section on those who have cross immunity from circulating common cold viruses. https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-is-the-role-of-t-cells-in-covid-19-infection-why-immunity-is-about-more-than-antibodies/

Yes but they would still test positive no matter how mild the symptoms

20 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

Someone should go on trial in the International Criminal Court in the Hague for crimes against humanity for getting all those prisioners infected.  They don't derserve biological torture as well as incarceration.

The biggest international criminals which hopefully will be uncovered and brought to justice is the CCP. Complicit to this is the WHO.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The biggest international criminals which hopefully will be uncovered and brought to justice is the CCP. Complicit to this is the WHO.

The WHO never toured China so you can't blame them????

2 minutes ago, Excel said:

The WHO never toured China so you can't blame them????

 

I won't get fooled again !

2 hours ago, Excel said:

Prisoners are still part of the population yet you choose to ignore them because it makes your assumptions a total nonsense. So who else should we ignore. The people who died over 60 because they would have died anyway at sometime, or perhaps should we ignore the migrant workers in Thailand because they are not Thai ?

Just barging in here (and I"m good at that), 

Thailand is the only country that is including those "horrid" prisoners.  There isn't anyone else doing it.  And it's purely ludicrous.  The effects on the health care system are the same - it doesn't matter if you're a pigeon keeper, you get COVID it matters.  

 

The only way out of this is vaccines or lockdowns.  What will it be Madame?  

10 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

The only way out of this is vaccines or lockdowns.  What will it be Madame?  

Can't/won't be lockdown.

Poor/limited supplies of vaccine.

Got a 3rd option?

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Can't/won't be lockdown.

Poor/limited supplies of vaccine.

Got a 3rd option?

The option is to 'let that bandaid rip off'.  

There you have it.  And you're not going to like it any better than option 1.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protection-from-covid-19

Seem like someone got the idea from here.

J & J Janssen single dose vaccine has just been approved for use in the UK.

4 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

J & J Janssen single dose vaccine has just been approved for use in the UK.

Is it approved in Thailand?

Thailand should approve it tomorrow.

23 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protection-from-covid-19

Seem like someone got the idea from here.

Yep T-Cells, not buying it as the future way for making a vaccine.  But hey it was a nice read.

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

What's going on with the government's supposed COVID vaccine registration program for foreign nationals in Bangkok remains pretty much a mystery, with silence from both the government and the two designated vaccination centers throughout this week.

 

One of the two designated centers, Vimut Hospital, posted online last Saturday inviting pre-registrations for the official government program that's supposed to start June 7. But by Wednesday, the hospital shut down its online pre-registrations system, and hasn't said if or when those who managed to pre-register will get their vaccines.

 

 

The other designated center in Bangkok, the Bangrak Vaccination and Health Center run by the Ministry of Public Health, has not responded to public inquiries and has not posted any information at all online on its newly created Facebook page -- although the site reportedly is operating and dispensing vaccinations to Chinese nationals with vaccines donated by the Chinese government.

 

Vimut Hospital, for its part, originally told those pre-registering that they should expect an SMS message within four or five days telling them about their scheduling. But as of Friday, a week after their pre-registration system opened briefly, comments on their Facebook page suggest pretty much no one thus far has received any scheduling messages from the hospital.

 

Instead, Vimut Hospital during the week posted the following update to their Facebook page:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/vimuthospital/posts/181697367196166

 

As of Friday, it remained unclear what if anything either of the two designated vaccination locations for foreign nationals will be doing come the June 7 official start of the government's supposed vaccination program for foreign nationals, and whether Vimut Hospital has any plans to reopen registrations at any point.

 

On Friday, all phone calls to Vimut Hospital went to recorded voicemail messages.

 

Elsewhere, for example, despite the government telling foreign nationals they could register for the government's vaccine program at the local hospital where they have medical records, a representative at Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok said they have yet to receive any guidance on if/how the hospital will participate in the government vaccine registration program for foreign nationals.

 

Separately, Bumrungrad has been keeping an informal contacts list of patients interesting in receiving a Moderna or Pfizer vaccine that might ultimately become available through Thailand's Private Hospitals Association. But as of Friday, the hospital said it also had no update or details on that prospect either.

For what it’s worth, I think:

 

1. Those two hospitals were told to set up registration sites for foreigners so as to make it look like Thailand was doing something vis a vis vaccinations for foreigners.

 

2. The hospitals know that there is no vaccine supply to cater for the registrations and since they have completed the task they were given (set up a registration mechanism) they have now washed their hands of it because it’s all a colossal waste of time. No vaccines are available to meet the registrations!

 

but if the thai authorities are asked by any interested party about what they are doing for foreigners, they can lay out a very pretty story, backed by nothing of substance whatsoever.

 

all speculation.

Channel 31 has an Op-ed on the news right now discussing the cock up with the vaccines.

3 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

This was always going to be the plan.

prisoners are considered to be a burden upon the Nation, and therefore will not receive the proper Care or Medical attention that is required to quell the outbreaks in the Prisons.

Prisoners are also locked away from Society, so therefore pose no threat of being carriers or spreaders of the Virus

I hope that the Death rates in the Prisons are kept low, and published daily, as these are people who are really in harms way.

On another tack.

The Immigrant Labour locked inside the Factory of Cal Comp, are saying they have very little Electric, and that the Food being given to them is not what they eat, and want to cook their own.

Prisons are prisons. They may be very overcrowded in Thailand but they have all the things prisons are supposed to have. Kitchens, showers, toilets, maybe even beds, for a large number of people.

 

the migrant workers in factories probably have it worse. The factories weren’t built to be lived in by large numbers of people.

6 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

No vaccines are available to meet the registrations!

Agree with your summary.

Is there any chance that Thai gov could invite private enterprise/private hospitals to acquire their own supplies and fill part of the roll out. Naturally would be provided at a cost to individuals.

Not every Thai lacks finance. Most expats same.

19 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Prisons are prisons. They may be very overcrowded in Thailand but they have all the things prisons are supposed to have. Kitchens, showers, toilets, maybe even beds, for a large number of people.

 

the migrant workers in factories probably have it worse. The factories weren’t built to be lived in by large numbers of people.

Guess you haven't been anywhere near a Thai prison then. When you turn over in bed tonight think of the prisoners who can hardly turn over. Kitchens? Showers and toilets for a large number of people maybe should be rewritten shower and toilet for a large number of people. Beds? If you call a floor covered in cheap horrible, thin disgusting 'mattresses' beds then I guess so. Shared with the rats, cockroaches, mosquitoes etc. Prisons are prisons is so off the mark. In the USA there is a big difference between state and federal prisons. I could continue but there's probably no point. As for the migrant workers there is no doubt their conitions are terrible.

 

The BP and other media have just reported that according to a government spokesperson, only 22% of the population of Phuket have been fully vaccinated. and 45% have had only one jab.

 

The Phuket governor has already stated that 50% of the population have already been vaccinated.

 

I cannot find any other media that has reported this.

 

 

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

 

The BP and other media have just reported that according to a government spokesperson, only 22% of the population of Phuket have been fully vaccinated. and 45% have had only one jab.

 

The Phuket governor has already stated that 50% of the population have already been vaccinated.

 

I cannot find any other media that has reported this.

 

 

Just a misunderstanding obviously as the governor was possibly very poor at maths at school

#COVID19 UPDATE FOR THAI PRISONS:

 

19 May: 1,117

20 May: 999

21 May: 842

22 May: 523

23 May: 499

24 May: 628 + 1 death

25 May: 1,429 + 1 death

26 May: 1,243 + 3 deaths

27 May: 1,228 28 May: 1,117 + 2 deaths <—- TODAY

 

TOTAL: 22,101 and 8 deaths

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1398256429119598596

 

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

The BP and other media have just reported that according to a government spokesperson, only 22% of the population of Phuket have been fully vaccinated. and 45% have had only one jab.

 

The Phuket governor has already stated that 50% of the population have already been vaccinated.

 

I cannot find any other media that has reported this.

 

 

It is a running joke, and several provinces like Sa Keo and Maha Sarakham are blasting the government for not providing the folks living their who are susceptible to covid, over 60, and have medical reasons for needing a vaccine before Phuket tourism.

Pattaya governor has big plans. 

"Pattaya move forward". Zero quarantine coming to a store near you. They need reach 70% vaccinated.

Another clown.

Chiang Mai Provincial Public Health Office has released guidelines for #COVID19 Vaccination Requests from foreigners residing in Chiang Mai Province #Thailand

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1398254224077512705

 

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep. It could have gone like India, but the growth in new infections tailed off, primarily due to Thailand’s policy of isolating anyone who tests positive.

So the goalposts have now moved to being India...

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month.

 

You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you.

I'm sorry, did you just claim OTHER people were gaslighting?  When this has been you in every thread??!

 

Announced case numbers increase?  Well it's not exponential!

 

Numbers increased previously that was "exponential"? Well it didn't become India!

 

Announced Numbers not decreasing and remaining at the highest numbers the country has ever seen?  It's leveled off!

 

Deaths at a record high?  Could be worse! Could be (insert country)

 

Amount of tests not stated?  Doesn't matter because they only need to test "hot spots" (or conversely, the daily deaths are all that matter)

 

Not to mention the prison cases don't count, which I'm sure will eventually lead to construction camps not mattering

36 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is a running joke, and several provinces like Sa Keo and Maha Sarakham are blasting the government for not providing the folks living their who are susceptible to covid, over 60, and have medical reasons for needing a vaccine before Phuket tourism.

 

Same in Samui, heaps of 20-25 years old are getting vaccinated this week.

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Can't/won't be lockdown.

Poor/limited supplies of vaccine.

Got a 3rd option?

Don't be so sure on the lockdown...Malaysia just announced total lockdown for 2 weeks. Apparently they were against it just a week ago, things change fast.

10 minutes ago, gearbox said:

 

Same in Samui, heaps of 20-25 years old are getting vaccinated this week.

All in the name of tourism and money. Money over health of the regular citizens. Amazing Thailand

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

All in the name of tourism and money. Money over health of the regular citizens. Amazing Thailand

And all based on the false assumptions that the tourists and their money are going to flow back into Thailand ...

The Ladprao branch of Makro, near Bangkapi Market, has been closed for 3 days following the discovery of 29 infected people.

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1398275727053639681

 

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