Thailand reports 3,995 new COVID-19 cases, 42 more deaths

[James105]

28 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

And a third way -- which is what the WSJ acturally reported -- is that Israel is saying no matter if you are fully vaccinated, do not let your guard down. Which I guess could apply to here in Thailand as well.

 

Maybe that part is behind the paywall, but the way that this is written gives the impression that the vaccines are not working against this variant and seeing some of the responses on this thread that is what some people are believing.    Irresponsible journalism at best, purposely deceptive at worst.   

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, HandsomeTallFarang said:

Obviously, the solution is to just shut down everything forever. Just close every single business, and you will be allowed two tokens per week: one token to visit the grocery store, and one to go outside to stretch your legs,  for 1 hour.  At all times you will be able required to stand in a queue, not unlike the Soviet Union.
 

The entire world should definitely be put on hold, and countless people should be subject to destitution and poverty, because this doomsday virus threatens everyone. After all, unless you are an elderly older person, you may have a less than 1% to die from it, statistically speaking.

 

 

Look, I’m not denying the science of COVID, and I recognize that it’s a contagious and deadly virus to certain demographics. That much is true. 
 

I just don’t agree with that it’s the ultimate doomsday virus that everyone needs to put their life on hold for, for Christ’s sake. Thai Culture is obsessed with the idea of saving face, as if being wrong is the ultimate shame and no one could ever recognize your mistakes as normal and just human nature.

 

Admitting that you are wrong sometimes is not shameful. That is the human condition. Nobody knows the answers 100%, and it’s purely selfish to insist that you are always right even when the sciences or real world outcome says you are wrong.

 

I seriously don’t understand the notion behind the idea that if you are wrong sometimes, it means you are a worthless person or a dishonorable loser or social leper. Learning from mistakes and admitting when you are wrong is not a bad thing. I don’t understand why Thai people just can’t admit to mistakes or missteps. 

 

 

You pose a straw man solution of total lockdown and then say that Covid19 is not so bad as to warrant your solution.

 

What’s your point?

[anchadian]

The Marine Department launched measures in Phuket on Sunday to screen travellers arriving and departing by water transport in a bid to prevent the spread of Covid-19

The move came after the Cabinet on Tuesday approved the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA)'s proposal to reopen Phuket on July 1 and three islands in Surat Thani – Koh Samui, Koh Phangan and Koh Tao – on July 15.

 

The measures are as follows:

▪︎ Three piers -- Ao Chalong, Rassada and Ao Po -- will be checkpoints for screening travellers' arrivals and departures via water transport.

 

▪︎ Foreign travellers can leave Phuket by yacht at five yacht piers -- Yacht Haven Marina, Ao Po Grand Marina, Phuket, Royal Phuket Marina and Marina Ao Chalong -- but they must inform the officials at least six hours before departure.

 

More:

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002522

 

[Daithi85]

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

That was just a story spread by the media.

 

The official procedure for determining  cause of death in the UK remains the same as before Covid19.

 Ah fair enough. 

[jerrymahoney]

8 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe that part is behind the paywall, but the way that this is written gives the impression that the vaccines are not working against this variant and seeing some of the responses on this thread that is what some people are believing.    Irresponsible journalism at best, purposely deceptive at worst.   

The headline of the article as in the post:

 

Delta Variant Outbreak in Israel Infects Some Vaccinated Adults

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

Yes and there are still many out there who just claim it is the same as the flu.

 

 

Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.

The new figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other groups were published Dec. 13 in The Lancet medical journal.

Flu deaths will now be lower in many countries. Countries that understand the importance of mask wearing. Before all this happened in Japan people wear masks when they are sick and do not want to transmit their virus to others. Idiots in western countries still cannot see this. I'm astounded. I am also astounded by the lack of understanding about what is actually happening by some on this forum.

[jacko45k]

6 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Several of my Thai wife's friends have bought self test kits back from the UK to Thailand. They are available for free from pharmacies.

Irresistible to Thais......

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The headline of the article as in the post:

 

Delta Variant Outbreak in Israel Infects Some Vaccinated Adults

Daily infections in Israel are drastically lower now than 2 or 3 months ago, despite the Delta variant.

[jacko45k]

Just now, Danderman123 said:

Daily infections in Israel are drastically lower now than 2 or 3 months ago, despite the Delta variant.

Too many attention grabbing headlines being employed, scare mongering actually. Israel is not in a bad place now.

[Bkk Brian]

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Last night, there was an order to close worker camps in Bangkok and its vicinity for a month. Today, Mittraphap Road from Muak Lek to Pak Chong is very congested. Coincidence? #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1409064847954702337

 

Songkran revisited! Well done Prayut!!

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1409064847954702337

 

[Cake Monster]

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

eplying to

@ThaiEnquirer

Of the 3,995 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 2,563 via tests at medical facilities

- 1,352 via pro-active tests at known clusters

- 45 via pro-active tests in prisons

- 35 imported cases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1409022250825654279

 

I see the Vaccinations are still trending toward a " One shot to fix all " outcome.

The number who have one shot has gone up +450 K in the last couple of Days, and the 2 shot fully Vaccinated number has only gone up about +300 K over the same period.

Madness, just sheer Madness.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Cake Monster said:

I see the Vaccinations are still trending toward a " One shot to fix all " outcome.

The number who have one shot has gone up +450 K in the last couple of Days, and the 2 shot fully Vaccinated number has only gone up about +300 K over the same period.

Madness, just sheer Madness.

One shot might not be a bad route if it were not Sinovac or Sinopharm...........

[metisdead]

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[Bkk Brian]

Over 450 Thai, Myanmar workers test positive for Covid-19 in Mae Sot

 

Over 450 Thai, Myanmar Workers Test...

The number of Covid-19 cases in Tak Mae Sot district has hit a record on a single day after 452 of 840 workers tested positive.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002523

[hotchilli]

9 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

As of Saturday, Thailand has administered 8.98 million vaccine doses, with 2.55 million people now fully vaccinated. 

Pitiful numbers, considering the want to open up the country and encourage travelers to return.

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[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

Yes and there are still many out there who just claim it is the same as the flu.

 

 

Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.

The new figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other groups were published Dec. 13 in The Lancet medical journal.

With a total in the same length of time I think the flu has proven to be much more deadly in the past.If you add up the total including the Spanish flu then I think Covid kind of pales into insignificance.Just depends on how one wants to compare the two.How many have died of covid in the past 200 years?Do you want to compare totals or just pick some years when the flu wasn't so bad?

[FarFlungFalang]

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Over 450 Thai, Myanmar workers test positive for Covid-19 in Mae Sot

 

Over 450 Thai, Myanmar Workers Test...

The number of Covid-19 cases in Tak Mae Sot district has hit a record on a single day after 452 of 840 workers tested positive.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002523

Gees Brian that's only a positivity rate of more than 50%.

[GroveHillWanderer]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I have learned not to believe such reports until they become the medical consensus. We get lots of conflicting claims about Covid in the media.

The reports are coming from Australian medical authorities.

 

What we know about the 'fleeting' spread of the COVID-19 Delta variant in Sydney

 

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Australian health officials are warning it no longer takes up to 15 minutes to pass on the deadly virus.

 

It can be a "fleeting moment" of just five to 10 seconds.

 

[riparian]

59 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

I see the Vaccinations are still trending toward a " One shot to fix all " outcome.

The number who have one shot has gone up +450 K in the last couple of Days, and the 2 shot fully Vaccinated number has only gone up about +300 K over the same period.

Madness, just sheer Madness.

 

Cant have the second dose until ?? weeks after the first.  They got off to such a pitifully slow start there are probably not many people 'eligible'.

 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Daily infections in Israel are drastically lower now than 2 or 3 months ago, despite the Delta variant.

Israeli health officials are returning to mask mandates at indoor facilities following a small spate of positive COVID Delta variant cases in adults who had been fully vaccinated with Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine. That is, these adults had received two doses of the vaccine, and it had been two weeks since their second dose, the generally accepted timeline for full vaccination.

https://fortune.com/2021/06/25/covid-delta-variant-in-israel-vaccinated-adults/

Think you will find 2 or 3 months ago there was no Delta virus in Israel. Israel is also known to have done a very good job with this pandemic. I believe the numbers coming out of there. I've never believed the the numbers here.

Edited June 27, 2021 by dinsdale

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

That was just a story spread by the media.

 

The official procedure for determining  cause of death in the UK remains the same as before Covid19.

Have you told Public Health Rngland?

 

PHE uses two definitions of death in a person with COVID-19 in England, one broader measure and one measure reflecting current trends:

1) A death in a person with a laboratory-confirmed positive COVID-19 and either: died within 60 days of the first specimen date or died more than 60 days after the first specimen date, only if COVID-19 is mentioned on the death certificate

2) A death in a person with a laboratory-confirmed positive COVID-19 test and died within (equal to or less than) 28 days of the first positive specimen date

[anchadian]

The Thai Public Health Ministry's Pre-Admission Center has announced that it is temporarily closed to migrant workers, as many infected with COVID-19 were being abandoned at the center.

 

Department of Medical Services (DMS) Director-General Dr Somsak Akkasilp said some employers have abandoned infected workers at the center, without advance notice, leading to problems with bed management and possible unexpected virus transmission.

 

He said the center has had to temporarily stop the admission of infected migrants at hospitals and field hospitals in Bangkok and its surrounding provinces. The center was designed to screen infected people, prior to sending them for treatment.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158108703557050

Edited June 27, 2021 by anchadian

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

Last night, there was an order to close worker camps in Bangkok and its vicinity for a month. Today, Mittraphap Road from Muak Lek to Pak Chong is very congested. Coincidence? #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1409064847954702337

 

If the majority of workers are migrant workers, where could they possibly be going? Traffice was heavy yesterday, but mostly normal travellers. Didn't see and migrant worker convoys. 

Edited June 27, 2021 by DavisH

[superal]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Random testing going house to house or street to street would be what I could see, but outside of the cluster areas and the known locations.

Exactly and weekly reports on testing from every province along with hospitalisation , vaccinated rates per province and availability of hospitals that have vaccines , other than sinovac , for private treatment and if Thailand is anything like India in reporting its numbers ( India reports in reality should be x 40 according to W.H.O. ) they will need outside aid , sooner rather than later but they will not want to lose face at any cost , even if human fatalities .

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[wensiensheng]

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

This is quite a comedown.  The lowest doses administered in a single day.

 

 

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (June 27, 2021) About 3.90 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 6,475,826 (+40,930) people received the first dose, while 2,579,315 (+33,145) received the second dose. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #ฉีดวัคซีน #COVID19 #Thailand #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1409023755888697360

 

Pitiful, just pitiful.

 

that blue line figure just keeps going up and up. A few months time and they will be scratching their heads trying to think of a reason why so many doses have to be done a day to reach 100 million.

[sapson]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Songkran revisited! Well done Prayut!!

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1409064847954702337

 

 

Yep ship then all back to the provinces of Issan and the north east, minimal testing, few or no vaccines to be had but plenty of cardboard bed space still available.!

 

 

[wensiensheng]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Thai Public Health Ministry's Pre-Admission Center has announced that it is temporarily closed to migrant workers, as many infected with COVID-19 were being abandoned at the center.

 

Department of Medical Services (DMS) Director-General Dr Somsak Akkasilp said some employers have abandoned infected workers at the center, without advance notice, leading to problems with bed management and possible unexpected virus transmission.

 

He said the center has had to temporarily stop the admission of infected migrants at hospitals and field hospitals in Bangkok and its surrounding provinces. The center was designed to screen infected people, prior to sending them for treatment.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158108703557050

Seems like there is chaos and nobody wants a migrant worker for love nor money.

 

the stupid thing is, if they aren’t taken/dumped at the centre, where do they go? They don’t just dematerialise, and they don’t suddenly become uninfected. Do they wander the streets?
 

Surely having them in one place ready for treatment or at least segregation from the general population is better? If the problem is beds, get more beds! Turning them away is just closing the eyes and pretending the problem isn’t there.

 

those poor migrant workers. SMH.

[anchadian]

Thailand’s Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) has reported that the results of the first phase of human trials of a COVID-19 vaccine candidate, being developed by the GPO and Mahidol University's faculty of tropical medicine, are promising and the official results will be released next month.

 

GPO Director Dr Vitoon Danwiboon said the first phase trial of HXP-GPOVac, which uses inactivated virus technology, has produced positive results in terms of safety and triggering an immune response. Samples have been sent for analyses in labs, run by the Department of Medical Sciences and National Science and Technology Development Agency, as well as to labs overseas.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158108705557050

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[wensiensheng]

3 hours ago, Caldera said:

Knowing that hospitals in Bangkok have been sending away people seeking a test, to avoid having to find a bed for them in case they happen to test positive, the number for Bangkok has basically become meaningless and it's anyone's guess what the true number might be.

The scary thing about that is not that you, I or anyone on this forum, doesn’t know how many people are infected. The scary thing is that the people masterminding Thailand’s response to  Covid don’t know how many people are infected.

 

without data, any decision is a shot in the dark. Any decent general should know intelligence is worth its weight in gold.

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, sapson said:

 

Yep ship then all back to the provinces of Issan and the north east, minimal testing, few or no vaccines to be had but plenty of cardboard bed space still available.!

 

 

Repeat, rinse and repeat again.  One has to think he seriously wants the country to implode so he can then place Thailand under Marshall Law and deploy the military.  A few of the GF's friends have just made it to Chantaburi where they plan on staying until BKK goes unlocked.  They have saved money fortunately.