Thailand reports record high of coronavirus infections and deaths

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Thailand on Saturday (July 31) reported 18,912 new COVID-19 cases and 178 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

● 18,102 new infections
● 810 prison / prison infections

Saturday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 597,287 with 4,857 deaths. 

(Total infections since April 1: 568,424)

The news comes as Thailand will order an additional 10 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, its health ministry said on Friday, as the Southeast Asian country battles its biggest COVID-19 outbreak to date. 

Since April, Thailand has been tackling a surge in infections driven by the highly contagious Delta variant of the coronavirus, pushing hospitals in the capital Bangkok to the brink.

 

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[DonniePeverley]

Absolutely awful. This Indian variant has been horrific. 

 

Out of all this i still don't understand how the virus entered Thailand - is it safe to assume the borders were never secure at any point? The unstable situation in India and Myanmar was probably the route into Thailand. Surely those borders should have been manned with the military. 

Edited July 31, 2021 by DonniePeverley

[Bkk Brian]

Total of 18,912 new infections, with 810 of those from prison and 18,102 in the community. 178 covid deaths recorded.

 

With the introduction of the Antigen Rapid Tests the official daily covid positive case numbers now appear to be missing clusters that have been identified in some Provinces and not included in official counts. The government said that any positive case found with ART would then go onto to have a pcr test. That's the theory but we've yet to see the evidence of this in the numbers announced.

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 29^th July) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases from daily official announcements.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

[ukrules]

I wonder what they think the 'actual rate' of infection is, for example, do they believe they're currently detecting 10% of all infections or do they think this is it and they've detected 100% of all current infections?

 

Hint - tomorrows infections (and the next 3 to 7 days) are not tested yet so we know it ain't 100% or anywhere near that and that's for sure.

[DonniePeverley]

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

I wonder what they think the 'actual rate' of infection is, for example, do they believe they're currently detecting 10% of all infections or do they think this is it and they've detected 100% of all current infections?

 

Hint - tomorrows infections (and the next 3 to 7 days) are not tested yet so we know it ain't 100% or anywhere near that and that's for sure.

What is the testing capacity in Thailand? They aren't doing a million tests a day like in the UK i assume. 

[ukrules]

Just now, DonniePeverley said:

What is the testing capacity in Thailand? They aren't doing a million tests a day like in the UK i assume. 

I've never read that information, do they release it at all?

[Bkk Brian]

NEW HIGH - #COVID19 Update on Saturday: 18,912 new cases (810 from prisons) and 178 deaths. 10,750 released from care.  

28 July: 16,533 - 133 dead

29 July: 17,669 - 165 dead

30 July: 17,345 - 117 dead

31 July: 18,912 - 178 dead

https://twitter.com//status/1421271126739587074

 

[internationalism]

that thread title will be well repeated (sadly) for the next 2 months.

They do expect pick of infection between 14 and 29.9, with daily 400-500 deaths and some 45 000 cases.

What went wrong?

suppose to be all over in 4-6 weeks?

 

[ChipButty]

1 minute ago, DonniePeverley said:

What is the testing capacity in Thailand? They aren't doing a million tests a day like in the UK i assume. 

You can safely assume that

[Bkk Brian]

NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 1,062 new cases and 6 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (236), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (239), and Si Racha (221). 11,950 patients are in care

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1421256712825098245

 

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1421270726661660677/photo/1

Edited July 31, 2021 by anchadian

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Surely those borders should have been manned with the military. 

And that would have kept Delta away?

Nup.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Total of 18,912 new infections, with 810 of those from prison and 18,102 in the community. 178 covid deaths recorded.

 

With the introduction of the Antigen Rapid Tests the official daily covid positive case numbers now appear to be missing clusters that have been identified in some Provinces and not included in official counts. The government said that any positive case found with ART would then go onto to have a pcr test. That's the theory but we've yet to see the evidence of this in the numbers announced.

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 29^th July) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases from daily official announcements.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

You are correct as the numbers of clusters seems to be growing and they have been identified by use of the Rapid tests, like the Phetchabun Chicken plant, and then it appears they have bubbled and sealed them in without testing further or including them in the National case count.  In another OP Dr, Opas indicates the cases could have been 45k, 40k, without lockdowns, but are bubble and seals not a lockdown of 100% magnitude.  If you think about it on a widescale and those who are also isolating at home only based upon the Rapid Antigen Tests, then I believe that the numbers are in excess of 40k a day already.  There is also a discussion of increasing the lockdowns and restrictions throughout the country, but then talk is cheap and they do not have the resources to care for the country.  Th impending explosion in cases soon to overtake the bordering country of Myanmar is another issue.  You can not stop this explosion or even slow it down without vaccinating folks.  The inevitable is still to come.  Some will call my post of one who is a doom monger and doomsayer, but when your looking at the totality it is the reality.  To those folks who question this as absurd reasoning, please show me the flipside like Dr. Opas is trying to do, but then show me the science proving my view is wrong.  If I am wrong I will admit it like I do when I see the error.

[dinsdale]

So beginning of August will see the 20,000 per day and projecting the beginning of Sept will see 30,000. Tomorrow sees Thailand move into the 600,000's of infections and by September this will be the 700,000's. Once again these are official numbers and I agree with others that ART's now seem to be part of a massive coverup. Prayut tells politicians they should use sound judgement. Do as I say not as I do. What a fool. 

Edited July 31, 2021 by dinsdale

[anchadian]

Bangkok’s extremely-popular Train Night Market Ratchada, also known as Talad Rot Fai Ratchada, is to permanently close due to the financial disruption caused by Covid-19 https://globe.co.th/news/bangkok/bangkoks-train-night-market-ratchada-to-permanently-close/ #Bangkok #Thailand

 

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

NEW HIGH: Chonburi Public Health Office has just announced they have 1,062 new cases and 6 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (236), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (239), and Si Racha (221). 11,950 patients are in care

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1421256712825098245

 

Standby for further restrictions to come to Chonburi and the surrounding cities such as Pattaya. Stay safe to those that live in those communities.

[bkk6060]

Over 1,000 now Chonburi the Pattaya/Banglamung area way up from yesterday and I believe a new high.

Stay safe out there.

[DonniePeverley]

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok’s extremely-popular Train Night Market Ratchada, also known as Talad Rot Fai Ratchada, is to permanently close due to the financial disruption caused by Covid-19 https://globe.co.th/news/bangkok/bangkoks-train-night-market-ratchada-to-permanently-close… #Bangkok #Thailand

 

 Permanantly ? What even / if tourism returns?

[bkk6060]

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So beginning of Ausust will see the 20,000 per day and projecting the beginning of Sept will see 30,000. Tomorrow sees Thailand move into the 600,000's of infections and by September this will be the 700,000's. Once again these are official numbers and I agree with others that ART's now seem to be part of a massive coverup. Prayut tells politicians they should use sound judgement. Do as I say not as I do. What a fool. 

If it keeps continuing we are looking at over one million by September.

Edited July 31, 2021 by bkk6060

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok’s extremely-popular Train Night Market Ratchada, also known as Talad Rot Fai Ratchada, is to permanently close due to the financial disruption caused by Covid-19 https://globe.co.th/news/bangkok/bangkoks-train-night-market-ratchada-to-permanently-close… #Bangkok #Thailand

 

Yes the gf told me this morning. We are walking distance. Was a great place for music and market. Sadly places like this will take LONG time to return if indeed ever.

[Greenwich Boy]

At the risk of being controversial I am beginning to think we need to consider an additional angle on this.

Unless things change very quickly Thailand is not going to jab itself out of this mess. The Covid cat is out of the bag.

I think we need to consider the 'Indian example' Absolute carnage followed by a sharp drop in cases. Yes I am aware of the possibly millions of missing deaths there. It is reported that maybe 70% of the population now has antibiodies and that can only be by infection not innoculation.

Don't get me wrong, I want vaccinations available to all now but think we have to consider that a similar situation is awaiting us.

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Bangkok’s extremely-popular Train Night Market Ratchada, also known as Talad Rot Fai Ratchada, is to permanently close due to the financial disruption caused by Covid-19 https://globe.co.th/news/bangkok/bangkoks-train-night-market-ratchada-to-permanently-close/ #Bangkok #Thailand

 

This was the location where the GF had her salon before the first lockdown, when that happened she had to close it and move to another location which was in Bang Na, and that is now closed.  She has sold off the majority of the equipment to her employees who are opening up their own 1 room salons in the small soi areas they live.  People still need to have their nails done and their hair cut and colored and many of these stylists are doing a trade with using the barter system.  I cut your hair Ms. shop keeper, you supply me with needed supplies and so on, just like the old days of hundreds of years ago.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Yes the gf told me this morning. We are walking distance. Was a great place for music and market. Sadly places like this will take LONG time to return if indeed ever.

Before Covid and even up until June of last year we were there almost everyday.  I miss the BBQed ribs and seafood restaurants.  The entertainment was nice later in the evening from the tops of a few of the bars.  Sad to see it disappear much like Khao San road has, but then Covid has wiped out much of the venues.

[sungod]

At what point should one know if the current round of restrictions in dark red areas are working to any extent?

[Mr Meeseeks]

The mismanagement continues with no responsibility taken by any of the buffoons in charge. 

[tomazbodner]

It is really not much of a surprise. Saw on CNN some doctor from Harvard discussing the Delta variant and how it can spread, etc. And the title was that it's as infectious as smallpox. Found article now that says chicken pox... regardless, not sure if CNN links are allowed, but here's one that's about same subject.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/cdc-masks-covid-19-infections/index.html

 

CDC document warns Delta variant appears to spread as easily as chickenpox and cause more severe infection

Washington (CNN)The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the United States appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal document from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The document -- a slide presentation -- outlines unpublished data that shows fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people.

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky confirmed the authenticity of the document, which was first reported by The Washington Post.

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, sungod said:

At what point should one know if the current round of restrictions in dark red areas are working to any extent?

I am no epidemiologist, but as a layman I would say that 2 weeks worth of cases are baked in at the time restrictions are applied. Then another 2 weeks to break a cycle of infection. So I’m guessing 1 month minimum before any effect is seen. Then another 2 weeks before any discernible trend is identified. Then another 2 weeks to make sure.

 

the problem with putting in restrictions incrementally is that if they don’t work, it’s 2 months gone and people are fed up before doing the next increment. Short sharp seems the way to go, get it over with before people get lockdown fever. That option is not available here now of course.

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, Greenwich Boy said:

. It is reported that maybe 70% of the population now has antibiodies and that can only be by infection not innoculation.

I didn't find your post completely left field.

Not so sure about the one sentence I picked out. (yes more to your post).

Personally don't think we are anywhere near the 70% you mention.

Also deaths sound ok on paper.

I can't opt for that.

For me it's persevere with the restrictions for as long as possible. Even increase them.

[Smithson]

33 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

Out of all this i still don't understand how the virus entered Thailand - is it safe to assume the borders were never secure at any point? The unstable situation in India and Myanmar was probably the route into Thailand. Surely those borders should have been manned with the military. 

I don't think it's possible to seal the borders, they are too porous. Even if it could be done, the virus would still enter somehow. If an island like Australia with its strict borders and quarantine can't keep it out nobody can.

[dinsdale]

9 minutes ago, sungod said:

At what point should one know if the current round of restrictions in dark red areas are working to any extent?

That point has been and gone. Symtoms for delta come on more rapidly than previous variants. The spread continues. As of tomorrow it will be 21 days. The psuedo lockdown has had absolutely no impact.

Edited July 31, 2021 by dinsdale