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Thailand to “focus on quality tourists who can spend more”

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  • BritManToo
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    Thailand wants quality tourists, but Thailand isn't a quality destination.

  • worgeordie
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    "Thailand to “focus on quality tourists who can spend more” Like those that can spend more than a 1000 Thb a day....???? they should just be happy with any tourists they get , and stop t

  • A couple of problems with this philosophy, the first being have a good look around, wealthy people have much better places to go to, cleaner & safer. & secondly this kind of thinking does not

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quality tourists don't spend at the local level, when was the last time you saw a quality tourist eating chicken rice on the cure side stall

3 hours ago, ed strong said:

What a backward country this is, those in charge have no idea what they are doing.

 

Draconian laws, water shortages, electrical outages, total mismanagement of any scheme they attempt to introduce.

 

Thank god or anyone that i did not move to Thailand, the place is literally a car crash (no pun intended)

I finally moved to Thailand over 20 years ago and it was the best move I have made in my life.

 

Having said that however I live in rural Kamphaeng Phet far from the madding tourist places I have lived and worked in Bangkok for about 5 years in the late 1990s and also out in the provinces and I much prefer it in the rural areas.

 

Most of the time the government is in the background and ignored. Draconian laws rarely affect us, water shortages sometimes, floods sometimes, electrical outages once a month or so, but it is possible to work round most of them or simply live with them.

 

As for government mis-management that happens everywhere and it rarely affects that many people anyway.

 

quote "What a backward country this is, those in charge have no idea what they are doing". Now there I agree with you, and the only way to remove them is to have more and bigger guns, which takes us back to where we are now.

How is this going to help the average Thai country bumpkin? fewer tourists mean fewer restaurants and fewer bars can be supported even if all of these people went out every night which they will not because like many people said they will stay at their fancy hotel most of the time. they will take private tours. first time a taxi says no there will be hell to pay on social media. 

I think they have talked about attracting quality tourists for 3-4 years now. They would have come by now if their strategy (whatever that is?) was actually working...

 

I'm glad the Energy minister is on it though, definitely his department! It's hard reading news here with a straight face nowadays...

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Quality doesn't mean wealthy. Thailand needs Arts galleries, museums, orchestras  race tracks  casinos, parks. Money follows art. Thailand also needs a modern enlightened drug policy.

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Thailand to “focus on quality tourists who can spend more”.

Well, those quality tourists will spend their money in the higher quality tourism businesses (mostly owned by the richest and well-connected upper-class) and leaves the smaller operators, the Mom-and-Pop shops, . . . and the ten thousand lower class Thais without proper income . . .  

9 hours ago, Bassosa said:

I guarantee you that the average digital nomad in Thailand spends more per month than the average foreign pensioner, and that's taking into account that they don't build houses in Isaan.

Brett Dev on YouTube paints rather a different picture of the "average" Thai based digital nomad. He's a freelance web developer, living in Chiang Mai, whose channel specifically targets digital nomad wannabes.

13 hours ago, Thailand said:

Problem solved, brilliant, incomparable etc!

But it is not official yet from what I was told by Thai embassy in Austria.

13 hours ago, webfact said:

The post pandemic recovery of Thailand’s tourism sector will focus on quality rather than quantity,

Instead they should focus on Recovery for all

 

First off since when does any business etc choose their customers?

 

Secondly if by some fantasy only really rich tourists visited Thailand who would that help?

Thailand is made up of many classes of people the majority are not going to benefit from only rich tourists

 

Focus Thailand Focus ! Recovery not Fantasy

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Anyone that looks after a Thai wife or any other Thai person

should be classed as best quality and welcome.

Rich folk are not necessarily high quality, I know some rich b-s

that would steal candy from little girls.

Thailand will get nowhere with this unless they qualify the word quality.

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This type of article projects an attitude of snobbery and wealth-shaming of people surviving on lower-income tiers.  Words to the effect, "we don't want your type here", "you're not welcome here", unless you show the money.  

Doesn't make you feel like wanting to come and spend here IMO.

The nation is throughly bereft of coastal property even condos with good views.

 

Outside the national parks there are perhaps a few dozen nice beaches in the country.

 

Next, if you found a property you'll need 60-100m to put a small villa all in. This must be done through a corporation and vest of luck getting the money out lol.

 

Or...for the same money you could buy a fully deeded dream home in Florida. Huge stretches of beaches. That sort of money will still get you a very nice home in Southern California as well.

 

Lack of ownership and repatriation of investment especially profit if any

 

Immigration hassles. Even non US citizens on 10Y B stay six months without reporting.

 

2m € in the south of Spain, Italy or Greece. Imagine that's a nice home as well.

 

They've been pushing this for decades and no one has shown up. Now, with the Chinese RE market crashing and 75% of Chinese wealth in RE Thailand better rethink that old, tired wet dream.

 

Never met a global nomad with money. Now, with covid all those inspid travel sites that brought in beer money are toast. All those online shops selling trinkets no one can buy without jobs.

 

Not many freelance IT workers. Who would trust them especially working remotely from a sketchy county like this?

 

Finally, Thailand keeps on about salaried income. Most wealthy people that draw a salary still need to be at their workplace. They've completely missed the fact that wealthy people have investments that at best pay quarterly.

 

I had a Thai professor from hkust pitching HKG and the university to my students. He basically said in Thailand you'll learn accounting and basic business. In Hong Kong you'll learn high finance. The Thais just don't get it.

 

3 hours ago, nausea said:

Brett Dev on YouTube paints rather a different picture of the "average" Thai based digital nomad. He's a freelance web developer, living in Chiang Mai, whose channel specifically targets digital nomad wannabes.

This is not big money work. There are facets of this industry that still pay something like e-commerce, complicated back end stuff and custom sites.

 

If they were good enough most would be in Bay area making bank.

 

Passive income, making money on adsense, sponsored links...lol. Go get a job teaching English.

Huge tax on beef, wine, cheese and all foreign foods outside ASEAN.

 

Foreigners don't like Thai food!!

 

No such thing as fine dining here for all intents and purposes.

They have the tourist industry ruined by changing the visa rules years ago already.. They wanted to get rid of all the people living here, spending their money and took care of families, but who could not get another visa than a tourist visa. The visa system is so outdated, but these people left the country already.. Than the backpacker were the target to get rid of.and  so fewer tourists came. In the meantime they have crackdown all kind of jobs , such as teachers who are working without a workpermis. I know you have to follow the rules, but sometimes it is by all the bureaucratic rules it is impossible to get your papers for a workpermit. But they don't care that these people contribute to the economy by travelling in their freetime and spending their earned money. All these measures are tighted after the coup. It seems that tey wanted to get rid of the foreigners. Now they want quality tourists, but in the meantime Thailand has got a bad reputation already, by double pricing, draconic alcohol rules, the incompetent and corrupt RTP, and the general feeling of being unwelcome here. Quality tourists will surely go other places and for Thailand, which never needed to do anything to get the cheaper tourists , because they came all by themselves, they have to change a lot to be attractive again. But therefor they need a vision and they lack of that They only can assume, predict, hope, expect and so, instead of making things easier, better, and attractive for those who wanted to come. If you say we only want quality tourist is wrong. People who have less money or backpackers, feel that they are not welcome anymore and find other destinations... But Thai logic is unlogical    

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Yeah ! that is why they introduced the Immigration "65K transfer a month rule" for long stayers (for some in a "eternal 65K carrousel move"... same 65K in & out & in again ) ????....

 

So they can spend that  800K rule better so at least they have that for the Thai economy  already  ????????

 

Having their "quality tourists".... Thai gov. left hand does not work with right hand as always ????

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Well! That excludes my entire family then ????????????????

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But let's make it more difficult for long term expats who might for example buy 2 new cars in the past year and buy furniture and home improvments (not to mention keep the relative's buffalo in good health)...what does that work out to per day ?

Yaaaaay. That will put an end to the thousands of Chinese buses on the roads as well as tens of thousands of flag bearing peasants ????

I think they will find it hard to get any tourists here. 

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10 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Quality doesn't mean wealthy. Thailand needs Arts galleries, museums, orchestras  race tracks  casinos, parks. Money follows art. Thailand also needs a modern enlightened drug policy.

They are world leader in "Arts".

 

The art of lying.

The art of cheating.

The art of not losing face.

The art of corruption.

 

And and and...

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Thailand owe the backpackers a lot from years previously. First they come back when qualified from University having got good jobs and money in pockets. Secondly they are very vocal about their adventures and sell their experiences very well, so more come. Street traders and food venders do very well from them too. The rich just stay in their little cocoons spending their money in the big hotels just making the rich richer.

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1 hour ago, tonray said:

But let's make it more difficult for long term expats who might for example buy 2 new cars in the past year and buy furniture and home improvments (not to mention keep the relative's buffalo in good health)...what does that work out to per day ?

Khun farang was cheated for many years by his lovely girlfriend.

 

One week, the buffalo was sick, the other week, the elephant.

It went on for years.

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5 hours ago, Chad3000 said:

 

If they were good enough most would be in Bay area making bank.

No doubt. But you said digital nomads in Thailand. What's teaching English got to do with the price of tea in China?

22 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thailand wants quality tourists, but Thailand isn't a quality destination.

How DARE U? I ????????????????????

Ask prospective victims to declare in advance how much they intend to spend, then decide whether you allow them.in or not haha 55555

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Out with the 40 million cheapskates (except they weren't,  they were spending $62 billion in 2019) and in with the 1 million rich as croesus folk, if you can find them. Goodbye to backpackers, full moon parties, surfers, lonely guys looking for some company. Away with you, you're not wanted!

 

But stop to imagine an industry shrunk so dramatically in size. Think of all those empty airline seats, all those unfilled hotel vacancies, deserted restaurants, bars, unsold tatty tourist souvenirs, unused taxis and tuk-tuks etc.  Then there are the all the people making a living from people working in the tourist industry, food vendors, motorcycle taxis etc. Just how many people would lose their livelihood? 

 

Has this policy really been thought through?

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I've lived here for close to 15 years now; Governments have come and gone but the TAT never stops playing its Broken Records !  Truth is they have no idea what's needed to 'lure' wealthy people; they think a few Resorts and Golf Courses, the odd 5-Star Hotel and a Steak Dinner with NO WINE will keep them happy.   No serious money has been ploughed into Local Infrastructure despite the literally Billions of Baht that has been taken from Tourists in the last 25 years; there are no CASINO'S, which rich people love to spend time in, just visit Macau or the Highlands in Malaysia to see the rich at play (including the rich Thai's).   I could go on but they will never 'get it' because they think that Thailand is Gods Gift, so people should just 'flock' to these shores to spend more money that will never be used in the right way !

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I understand now why they want rich tourists, if you get tested positive, even you got your double vaxx, you end up with 150K + hospital bills.

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