sadly, thai culture precludes this guy's underlings from asking "ummm, boss, since we all know that thailand is the best in the world, why arent all those rich folk coming here already?"

14 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

If America had to fight another war in Cambodia, or Laos, Vietnam, R and R could save Nana.

If America has to fight a war with China because of Taiwan, this time they'll have to 'fight' (well, scare those Thai soldiers with a loud "booh"), Thailand, as I'm sure Thailand will side with the PRC...

1 minute ago, Chad3000 said:

So, 1-2 days of quarantine. PCR tests, CoE.

 

Just like I said in my early posts they will never get rid of quarantine or tests vested interests are fixed forever. Endemic corruption.

 

BTW why does some bureaucrat from TAT have any say in this at all???!

Im happy with my shop Bar, and there was a few around my area, I don't think they will close them down ,but Walking street and a few others I can only guess will fall to Chinese establishments.

The bar areas will move a bit but will reinvent themselves, just as if my wife sold sausages on a corner , soon another sausage seller will open next to her.

4 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

It seems  yes.  I got a COE today for 23oct.  If i were coming in mid November i would have waited.  Things change by the day….er hour

I applied for COE before the "big announcement" re: Nov 1st.

 

Plus, the wife's permission to stay in the U.S. is close to expiring, so not much choice there...

You don't decide the market, the market dictates.

 

So they want families....... so the flights from Europe for a family of 4 is going to be Eur3,000 and the whole family with everyone vaccinated will spend 12-16 hours on the plane with a 6 hours time change to deal with. When they get there the kids will be complaining about the heat and the wife will be unhappy about her husband being chatted up by the local girls. Why would they do that when for 1/4 of the money and travel time they can go to Spain, or in the winter, the Canary Islands?

 

They think if they wave a magic wand they can create a country they want.....good luck with that.

In one breath they announce that there will be a big concert @ Phuket with Lala Lisa to celebrate the re-opening of tourism and in the next they say there will no longer be any nightlife. Brilliant.

Has anybody asked him what he wants to be when he grows up? rather endearing in his innocence though, the bars and the girls will appear again as if by magic, can't stop a rolling ruble.

Make Pattaya Disgusting Again.

MPDA

May as well throw in STD testing while we're doing the other compulsory stuff since we're going for a more wholesome market.   

I’m curious to know what the “ new model” of tourism is???? These decision makers must be on hallucinating drugs! They are putting an end to tourism in Thailand, good luck with that????????????

2 hours ago, Thunglom said:

This is not any real policy, it is purely a statement that reflects the "snobbism" of the minister. It is a personal wish that has no basis in reality.

Thailand has almost totally lost its income from tourism and thousands of people are unemployed as a result - simply wishing for a 'high end" market is not going to be=ring back these people's livelihoods.

Quite obviously, this approach is not viable or practical. 

Policies that are directed for the popular collective are much more useful in the long run. 

 

Even in the best of times, a high-end market is purely a clique thing - not sustainable.

Even this goofball is on board with the purification program, of ridding Thailand of one of it's primary attractions. It's nightlife. They just to do not get it. They think Thailand is so much bigger, better, more appealing, and irresistible than it really is. 

 

The goons in charge are focusing their efforts in all the wrong areas. They are trying to make Thailand a Quaker State. A land of purity. Total BS. Nonsense. Misplaced priorities, and wasted efforts. And likely completely fake and hypocritical. No doubt these terribly misguided fools are trying to rid Thailand of one of it's most popular attractions. The nightlife. And we are not just talking about the "industry". Little do these ninnies know, the girls will just go underground, and online, but it will operate more in line with the enormous sex industry in the US. Illegal, underground, unprotected, unregulated, potentially overpriced, and potentially more dangerous for all involved. So, they would be moving the nation backwards, and harming their people, and tourism, in the process.

I think tens of thousands of nightlife venues will ever re-open. Many are permanently sabotaged. And I would venture to guess this was intentional sabotage. The fake puritans want to remake Thailand, in their own image. At least the image they perceive of themselves, which we all know is a major form of pathological delusion.

So, that included killing Thailand's nightlife. Willfully. Covid became that opportunity and it was seized with vigor. And within their bubbles of self delusion, they do not get the fact that the nightlife here is part of Thailand's charm and appeal, to a significant portion of tourists, regardless of whether or not they partake of it.

They should be focusing their efforts on traffic and public safety, easing import tariffs, making visa policy simpler, and more friendly, boosting Western tourism (of that is even possible at this late stage, after spending ten years sabotaging the industry), real crackdowns on slavery, illegal fishing (instead of nonsensical hyperbole), and police corruption, cleaning up the water, the air, the rivers, and the beaches, and other things that actually improve lives.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Even this goofball is on board with the purification program, of ridding Thailand of one of it's primary attractions. It's nightlife. They just to do not get it. They think Thailand is so much bigger, better, more appealing, and irresistible than it really is. 

 

The goons in charge are focusing their efforts in all the wrong areas. They are trying to make Thailand a Quaker State. A land of purity. Total BS. Nonsense. Misplaced priorities, and wasted efforts. And likely completely fake and hypocritical. No doubt these terribly misguided fools are trying to rid Thailand of one of it's most popular attractions. The nightlife. And we are not just talking about the "industry". Little do these ninnies know, the girls will just go underground, and online, but it will operate more in line with the enormous sex industry in the US. Illegal, underground, unprotected, unregulated, potentially overpriced, and potentially more dangerous for all involved. So, they would be moving the nation backwards, and harming their people, and tourism, in the process.

I think tens of thousands of nightlife venues will ever re-open. Many are permanently sabotaged. And I would venture to guess this was intentional sabotage. The fake puritans want to remake Thailand, in their own image. At least the image they perceive of themselves, which we all know is a major form of pathological delusion.

So, that included killing Thailand's nightlife. Willfully. Covid became that opportunity and it was seized with vigor. And within their bubbles of self delusion, they do not get the fact that the nightlife here is part of Thailand's charm and appeal, to a significant portion of tourists, regardless of whether or not they partake of it.

They should be focusing their efforts on traffic and public safety, easing import tariffs, making visa policy simpler, and more friendly, boosting Western tourism (of that is even possible at this late stage, after spending ten years sabotaging the industry), real crackdowns on slavery, illegal fishing (instead of nonsensical hyperbole), and police corruption, cleaning up the water, the air, the rivers, and the beaches, and other things that actually improve lives.

 

 

 

The learning curve is nil. 

Chances are that they will never get it.

Why let the people enjoy themselves and blow off a little steam, when it gets in the way of the overall objective of "purification of the nation"? 

 

 After all having a beer, or a glass of wine with dinner can be a very dangerous activity. 

 

This continued foolishness, and extreme ignorance will limit Thailand to just a very small trickle of tourism for some time to come. Their blindness comes at a very high cost to the economy. For some, especially tourists, why even bother eating out if one cannot enjoy a harmless drink with your meal? 

 

Woe is Thailand, with this staggering lack of leadership and courage. 

12 hours ago, ukrules said:

He just announced the death of Tourism in Thailand. 

What a ridiculous post, tourism has been dead for over 18 months, or haven't you noticed.

When your favourite fish and chip shop went bust, did it magically reappear after a few months, thought not.

The past is past and you have to accept the future, or take the road to the airport.

I had a quite unique experience a couple of weeks ago, walked into a Wetherspoons and got served immediately, Bob Dylan was certainly right.

8 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

The learning curve is nil. 

Chances are that they will never get it.

The leadership here does not have enough intelligence or humility to learn, change, progress, see the future, or realize they are decimating the economy and destroying international tourism, permanently. 

13 hours ago, webfact said:

TAT boss rules out going back to the old Thai tourism formula of crowded bars and nightlife. He insists the kingdom is instead pursuing a higher quality, more family-friendly market.

Good news, the pandemic may have been a belssing in disguies.

Get rid of Thaialnd's sex tourism for good. 

19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The leadership here does not have enough intelligence or humility to learn, change, progress, see the future, or realize they are decimating the economy and destroying international tourism, permanently. 

Do you know any country with humble leaders? 

14 hours ago, Enzian said:

The puritans in government see the pandemic as a once in a lifetime opportunity to transform their shame about the "lower orders" into an image of glowing virtue. But reality will intervene, as it always eventually does.

You got it. From time to time I wonder how that worked out with Khao San Road. They were so happy to "clean it up" after the coup. Do people still go there?

9 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

I just do my ole tea bottle trick---chug 7-11 green tea at dinner before going out---buy a small sangsom bottle at shop--pour SS into tea bottle and Im off!  the prefect crime--plastic-no worries of theft--easy transport--more than enough for a night out...add mixers as needed--120bt!

I've bought a small hip flask and was going to do the same but with some nice rum from duty free. Use it during my twice weekly trip to the 'pub' whilst watching live sport and playing a few games of pool for a few hours. I'll keep the green tea trick in hand if my regular trips to the toilet for a sip from my hip flask raise eyebrows!

 

14 hours ago, webfact said:

According to the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) Governor Yuthasak Supasorn, in recent days, there will still be a mandatory one day quarantine requirement for all visitors while he also suggested that there was no going back to the former tourism market with busy nightlife scenes as Thailand seeks a new tourism following.

This guy needs rehab - he's definitely on something.

 

I actually find his statement encouraging (slightly).  He's been making announcments since Covid began and Prayuth's been slamming them down the next day.

53 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Good news, the pandemic may have been a belssing in disguies.

Get rid of Thaialnd's sex tourism for good. 

Dream on, that's the one thing that will definitely survive no matter what happens.

What a bell End!

6 hours ago, tomyami said:

I arrived in bkk in march my 72 hr pcr was rejected so I had to take 1 in the airport There where about 3 others and had to wait 3 + 1 hrs through immigration for result. Now do that for x  planes loads it would need a hugh operation and holding area and after a long haul flight a nightmare and i would never travel on that rule if 1 person tested + everybody would have to quarrantine

 

charged 3k baht test + taxi connection missed to AQL 1k

 

next high season 2022 but that guy needs to be sacked

Can I ask, why was your 72 hr PCR result rejected?

 

No planning laws and unimaginative concrete architecture mean that -  generally speaking -Thailand is a pretty grubby place. It sometimes has a kind of unique charm about it at times, but a high-end holiday destination it most definitely isn't, and never will be.

 

As for families, forget it. Kids on holiday want to DO things, and Thailand isn't a venue that caters well for kids -as any parent here will tell you.

 

Better to stick to the formula that works.

 

 

15 hours ago, JCP108 said:

So, "no quarantine" means one to two days of quarantine and the COE remains but with a name change. 

Exactly. Where do we report fake news?? Is there a reward?

15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

My 3rd UK jab will be due after 25th October. I think I'll get the 3rd, wait a month and see what happens. Far as I am concerned nothing has really changed. The health pass appears to be the COE in all but name and my own opinion it will end up just causing holiday chaos as much as the COE.

 

If I have to miss X-mas with the wife and kid, so be it. I'll let the rest if the eager beavers iron out the new system and see the comments here !

 

 i have several friends in the uk, same thinking, waiting for the booster and then to see how things pan out. no one is rushing off to buy a ticket. no rush.

2 minutes ago, it is what it is said:

 i have several friends in the uk, same thinking, waiting for the booster and then to see how things pan out. no one is rushing off to buy a ticket. no rush.

This is what I'm doing. I have been  In London working since the pandemic. My booster is probably due around November.  I will wait until December/New year see what happens 

No going back to the old life style. Sounds like Thailand rulers could have put THE LAST NAIL IN THEIR COFFIN. ????????????

TAT love numbers and calculations. Using 2019 tourist figures lets say 2,000,000 (of 39,000,000) were party visitors (sex, clubs, other nightlife) each year on a two week holiday. Spending 10,000/day on hotel, food, drinks, girls, shopping, incidentals that comes to 280,000,000,000 baht of lost revenue a year. Not counting all the expats that also frequent these places (and some own them). I'm sure that figure employed a lot of people and took care of many families. Under a no/low nightlife plan, most of that money is gone.