Could this be the Final nail in Pattaya's coffin ??

[banglay]

Hi All,

Bit of a heavy topic, but it's worth discussing. If the whole Thailand-Cambodia situation really blows up into a proper war, what's that going to do to our beloved Pattaya?

Could this be the big one – the "final nail in the coffin" for the Pattaya we've all come to know (and sometimes grudgingly love)? Or are we looking at a double whammy, with even more hoops to jump through for visas and staying put?

I'm not trying to be a doomsayer, but let's be honest, Pattaya hasn't exactly been on a strong rebound after various setbacks and new rules over the past 15 years. So, is this the "final swan song," or will we just collectively stick our heads in the sand and pretend it'll all be fine?

Keen to hear what you guys reckon.

[Harrisfan]

Pattaya has 100x more farangs than I like. Not sure what the message is. It was crap 20 years ago.

[henryford1958]

How does it affect us? i doubt Cambodia will bomb Pattaya. It might help deflate the baht.

[Free the 115]

What I’m reading here is that” don’t want to sound like a doom sayer, but”…….anyone who doesn’t agree with me is burying their head in the sand. 
Also, that the Cambodian border “war” is going to totally obliterate Pattaya’s economic structure. 
is their an article that I’ve missed that says that the Walking Street Ladyboys have all been conscripted, and the bar girls are on first reserve?

tbf, the vids on here show them to be a force to be reckoned with, as long as it’s stilettos and not sidearms. 

Maybe you shouldn’t drink and type

[StayinThailand2much]

8 minutes ago, henryford1958 said:

How does it affect us? i doubt Cambodia will bomb Pattaya. It might help deflate the baht.

 

Yeah, from 32.15 to 32.45 to the dollar... (Probably just thanks to a stronger dollar.)

 

It's weird; if WW3, and/or civil war in Thailand broke out, the baht would probably still get stronger... 😆 

[SAFETY FIRST]

19 minutes ago, banglay said:

If the whole Thailand-Cambodia situation really blows up

Don't worry my friend. 

 

Thailand's military is far superior to the little brother Cambodia.

 

Maybe Thailand's Prime Minister should do a Trump (take Canada) and take control of Cambodia, extending Isaan to Vietnam. 

 

[scubascuba3]

Op is probably depressed so seeing the negative. Worse case is farang that can leave will leave for a period, will be like covid again 

[quake]

Who cares, it's all just a little lovers spat.

For us expats, Soi 6 will still be open for business, come what may. 

[newnative]

    I'm wondering if you are really living in Pattaya.  If you are, you mustn't be getting out much.  Pattaya is booming.  Do some exploring in the Mabprachan Lake area, where I live.  Everywhere you look there is housing construction going on.  And, not just there.  Check out all the new construction around the new stadium area and that whole area and beyond of the Darkside.   Spouse and I will drive over to View Ang restaurant now and then and you can't miss all the new housing projects--not to mention the new water park.

    Lots of housing is being built and it is not sitting empty.  I have lived in 3 housing projects so far and they have all been bought out.  I am now on my 4th and it's the same, with Phase 3 going up next door.  With all 4 projects, it's been a UN of owners, with expats from lots of different countries.   

    Spouse and I are friends with one of the developers and she, alone, has built at least a dozen projects in the last few years, including one we have owned at, which is how we met her.  They have all sold out and she has at least three or four new projects under construction now or about to start.  Obviously, if the houses weren't selling she could not keep building.

   That's just single-family housing projects.  I haven't even touched on the condo construction boom, with more projects on the books for the next few years.  I'm not seeing any nails--or coffins--and I do get out much. 

[bendejo]

Cambodia still hates VN for invading and bringing Pol Pot to an end, even if it did save their ass.  I would suspect the Chinese entrepreneurs who run the casinos in Sihanoukville et al are in contact with the powers that be in Bkk to buy a protection agreement.

How will it affect Pattaya?  Less Cambo hawkers I guess.  Are there bars that specialize in Cambodian girls?

 

Do bear in mind modern Pattaya's roots are in the military.

 

[CallumWK]

If there is a full scale war it will be widely covered in international media, and international tourism will crater

[simon43]

No

[simon43]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Thailand's military is far superior to the little brother Cambodia.

Lol. that's what they said about the Thailand-Laos fight, and look who won!

[bkk6060]

Even if a World War broke out sex seekers will come to Pattaya.

[Ralf001]

Cambodia has called for a ceasefire.

[treetops]

53 minutes ago, newnative said:

Pattaya is booming.  Do some exploring in the Mabprachan Lake area, where I live.  Everywhere you look there is housing construction going on.  And, not just there.

 

I don't think real estate projects had much influence over the OP's waffling.

[VocalNeal]

1 hour ago, henryford1958 said:

How does it affect us?

 

Borders closed. Longer distance for border bounce. Where?

[brewsterbudgen]

No.  The 2004 tsunami, 2010 Red Shirt riots; military coups; Covid and earthquakes had minimal and no long-lasting impact. Neither will another border skirmish with Cambodia.

[topt]

1 hour ago, banglay said:

and new rules over the past 15 years.

What new rules are you referring to?

[angryguy]

Oh no the cambodians are going to take all our hookers

[proton]

1 hour ago, banglay said:

Hi All,

Bit of a heavy topic, but it's worth discussing. If the whole Thailand-Cambodia situation really blows up into a proper war, what's that going to do to our beloved Pattaya?

Could this be the big one – the "final nail in the coffin" for the Pattaya we've all come to know (and sometimes grudgingly love)? Or are we looking at a double whammy, with even more hoops to jump through for visas and staying put?

I'm not trying to be a doomsayer, but let's be honest, Pattaya hasn't exactly been on a strong rebound after various setbacks and new rules over the past 15 years. So, is this the "final swan song," or will we just collectively stick our heads in the sand and pretend it'll all be fine?

Keen to hear what you guys reckon.

 

Your beloved Pattaya, I would not mind seeing it flattened

[Will B Good]

 

 

Unless the beer soaked expats (God, I wish I was one of them) start hearing bombs exploding over the bar music, I doubt they will be slipping off there bar stools for anything other than a pee break.

[JensenZ]

1 hour ago, newnative said:

    I'm wondering if you are really living in Pattaya.  If you are, you mustn't be getting out much.  Pattaya is booming.  Do some exploring in the Mabprachan Lake area, where I live.  Everywhere you look there is housing construction going on.  And, not just there.  Check out all the new construction around the new stadium area and that whole area and beyond of the Darkside.   Spouse and I will drive over to View Ang restaurant now and then and you can't miss all the new housing projects--not to mention the new water park.

    Lots of housing is being built and it is not sitting empty.  I have lived in 3 housing projects so far and they have all been bought out.  I am now on my 4th and it's the same, with Phase 3 going up next door.  With all 4 projects, it's been a UN of owners, with expats from lots of different countries.   

    Spouse and I are friends with one of the developers and she, alone, has built at least a dozen projects in the last few years, including one we have owned at, which is how we met her.  They have all sold out and she has at least three or four new projects under construction now or about to start.  Obviously, if the houses weren't selling she could not keep building.

   That's just single-family housing projects.  I haven't even touched on the condo construction boom, with more projects on the books for the next few years.  I'm not seeing any nails--or coffins--and I do get out much. 

And you haven't even mentioned all the massive condo projects on the bright side of town... built and still under construction during and since Covid. 

 

"final nail in the coffin". What a load of cr*p. I'm still waiting for the first nail to arrive. I've been here for 20 years, and the place is booming more than ever.

[oxo1947]

46 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Lol. that's what they said about the Thailand-Laos fight, and look who won!

I must have missed that one Simon----when did it happen  ?   your not talking about Centuries ago are you ?

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

I must have missed that one Simon----when did it happen  ?   your not talking about Centuries ago are you ?

The Thai–Lao Border War, or known in Thai as Battle of Ban Romklao (Thai: สมรภูมิบ้านร่มเกล้า or ยุทธการบ้านร่มเกล้า; December 1987 – February 1988),

[oxo1947]

5 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

he Thai–Lao Border War, or known in Thai as Battle of Ban Romklao (Thai: สมรภูมิบ้านร่มเกล้า or ยุทธการบ้านร่มเกล้า; December 1987 – February 1988),

Thanks Harrisfan---no I didn't know about that part of Thai history--- what a waste huh.........

[newnative]

31 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

And you haven't even mentioned all the massive condo projects on the bright side of town... built and still under construction during and since Covid. 

 

"final nail in the coffin". What a load of cr*p. I'm still waiting for the first nail to arrive. I've been here for 20 years, and the place is booming more than ever.

   I did touch on them in my final paragraph but you are right, lots of construction on the bright side, as well.  I posted a thread recently on Pattaya condo projects past and future and there were a number of large ones listed for the next few years, in addition to the ones under construction now.  If you have been here 20 years, you probably fondly remember, as I do, the annual "Is Pattata Dead" threads on Thai Visa.  Answer, then and now:  No.

[proton]

Sinlapin Isaan is the only place worth going to in that dump, level the rest.

 

 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

3 hours ago, banglay said:

If the whole Thailand-Cambodia situation really blows up into a proper war,

I agree with the basis of your post - a full out war will result in a massive negative affect on Expats across the country. I see many posters are responding about the current situation, but if it does escalate to war, Thailand will revert to Martial Law and all things about us will be impacted.  Just like during Covid when Expats here were treated dismally and unfairly (I got out early), the situation under such a situation will not be good.

Overall, the commencement of a full-on war will push more Expats to leave and less Expats to come here for sure.  More than if in 2026 if they do impose income taxes on all Expat's global income under their new world-wide taxation system - if/when they get it commenced.  

[couchpotato]

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Borders closed. Longer distance for border bounce. Where?

have funds or get a proper visa/extension then you don't need a border bounce.