https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-covid-19-vaccination-shortage-astrazeneca-sinovac-15268932

Should be well over 17k +ve tests if the Phetchabun chicken factory cluster is to be included. Why am I starting to believe Antigen tests are failing to make it into official figures? Would be one way of keeping numbers down I guess.

 

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

39 year old woman with no comorbidities died in Sydney yesterday from Covid. A few days ago a 14 year old died here. The youngest in yesterday's deaths was 28. 

Noted.

Interested readers many also refer to the below from https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-deaths-by-age-group-and-sex

15 minutes ago, DanielS said:

I live in Pattaya area. Todays report is 201 new cases.

I want to know how many of them is in Migrantworker camps.

My guess is 150 ,  or more?

thepattayanews site usually does a break down each day of approximately where/how the cases were found.

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

The mortality rate in prisons seems suspiciously low, surely prisoners aren't healthier than the population at large and their access to healthcare is worse.

 

According to Thai friends... they believe that there aren't many deaths in the prisons... I also wonder at the true numbers...

Starting from 1st July, people will need to register in advance if they want to be vaccinated at Bang Sue Grand Station. This is the scene this morning with people in certain groups allowed to do walk-ins. They are reportedly vaccinating 17,000 people every day #Thailand

 

Video here:

https://twitter.com/ittipat_tv/status/1419849030771699724

 

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

. This is the scene this morning with people in certain groups allowed to do walk-ins

Think the walk ins are for 75+ group?.

BTW Link didn't work for me. Might just be my cell.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Think the walk ins are for 75+ group?.

BTW Link didn't work for me. Might just be my cell.

Have changed the link

14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why would it matter, are you trying to make a point. Cases are cases.

Yes, for my daily life it matters. 

If , for example, near every new case is in workers camps, I can continue most of my normal life in Pattaya city.

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Have changed the link

Works fine.

Geezus that looks horrid.

I will go along for my 4pm appointment today, however if it's anything like your clip I will skip it.

14 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Starting from 1st July, people will need to register in advance if they want to be vaccinated at Bang Sue Grand Station. This is the scene this morning with people in certain groups allowed to do walk-ins. They are reportedly vaccinating 17,000 people every day #Thailand

 

Video here:

https://twitter.com/ittipat_tv/status/1419849030771699724

 

 

Think they mean August 1... re the end of walk-in vaccinations there.

 

An interesting comparative look at current COVID death rates among countries. Thailand lately has surpassed both the U.S. and U.K. in terms of current COVID deaths per million population:

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths

 

42 minutes ago, DanielS said:

I live in Pattaya area. Todays report is 201 new cases.

I want to know how many of them is in Migrantworker camps.

My guess is 150 ,  or more?

There are not many cases in worker camps in Pattaya itself. The worker camps are up north along the coast, or way up north in Ban Bueang.

 

The 200 cases in Pattaya are community spread, people getting infected at markets, or from going to Central Festival.

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Works fine.

Geezus that looks horrid.

I will go along for my 4pm appointment today, however if it's anything like your clip I will skip it.

It wasn't that bad for me. The 4pm slot is appointments only. Still plenty of people but nothing like that pic. That pic is for walkins. Don't skip it. Do it. Like I said it will take about an hour if your experience is anything like mine. In at 4:00 out at 5:08.

2 hours ago, Henryford said:

I guess the average age of those in prison is relatively low so not high risk, compared to the 82 year olds in the general population.

And possibly there are less obese diabetics. 

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

So you're willing to put your family and the community at risk of dying until you can get a vaccine of your choice even if it takes another 6 months?

I think you also have to bear in mind that the Sinovac then AZ combination is not a proven route to go. And why has Sinovac suddenly become okay for the over 60s? I still cannot even get AZ and I am registered at my local hospital! I would be doing the same as DrJack54 and another reason is if I have to fly back to UK, Sinovac is not accepted. It is a case of each to their own as we all have different circumstances. Where I live I cannot see any vaccinations coming anytime soon especially Pfizer etc. We are waiting on Moderna to make an appearance, hopefully in Oct which we have registered for.  

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The promised arrival in the coming days of the 1.5 million Pfizer vaccine doses donated by the United States may be creating some interesting vaccine dynamics for expats here.

 

Ten percent of those doses, or 150,000, are supposed to be set aside for foreign nationals, with a priority on those age 60 and above and those with the list of chronic medical conditions. But the Thai government thus far hasn't specifically spelled out just how/where foreign nationals will be able to register for and receive those doses.

 

So, at the moment, it seems to go something like this:

 

--the early bird folks in Bangkok and surrounding provinces who managed to get the few available appointments had the opportunity to register for two AZ doses, with the second dose schedule for September.

 

--the older expat folks in Chiang Mai currently are being told that their vaccine regimen, if they accept it, is going to be first dose of Sinovac followed by a second dose of AZ.

 

--And so now, is it possible that those  who waited and held off registering and receiving vaccines before now/soon will be able to register for and receive the two dose regimen of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine. Or is the rollout of the Pfizer doses likely to be a crazed stampede???

 

Is it possible in this case, people who waited MIGHT end up being better off... given that testing results thus far seem to show that the Pfizer vaccine has a somewhat higher effectiveness rate than the AZ vaccine, and a lot higher than the Sinovac vaccine?

 

FWIW, I see little likelihood that the Thai government is going to allow expats who've already received their first AZ dose and have an appointment for a second to shift that second dose to a Pfizer dose -- although that's just speculation on my part at this point.

 

 

I doubt that those Pfizer doses will find their way into the arms of farang. Frontline workers, yes. VIP “traveling overseas”, yes. At the same time they will say that 150k doses will be held back for farang, whilst also giving older farang sino /AZ combo. Suddenly, no elderly farang need Pfizer because they are vaccinated already. Happy days, 150k Pfizer is available for VIP Thai’s.

 

they will bend over backwards to show that those doses aren’t needed by common or garden farang.

 

pure speculation.

52 minutes ago, anchadian said:

How sad

 

BP reported that two young girls who woke up on Monday morning and found their mother dead on the floor beside them later tested positive for Covid-19

Two girls told by mother to go to orphanage as they watch her die of COVID at home

Two girls, aged 7 and 9, who later tested positive for COVID-19, were rescued from their home in Samut Prakan’s Bang Phli district yesterday (Monday), after watching their mother die of COVID-19, amid a continual surge in infections and deaths in Thailand which has seen more deaths on the streets and at home, as hospital resources are being stretched wafer thin.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-girls-told-by-mother-to-go-to-orphanage-as-they-watch-her-die-of-covid-at-home/

Interesting what businesses are closed and what are open. Understandably open are food and convenience stores and pharmacies.

 

I have accounts at three different banks. Rarely can I find any branch of any of them open. In malls they're all closed, and others have closed because staff is in quarantine after somebody---customer or staff---tested positive.

 

On the other hand, every single Indian tailor shop I see is open, especially along Sukhumvit.

 

Essential businesses?

14 minutes ago, DanielS said:

Yes, for my daily life it matters. 

If , for example, near every new case is in workers camps, I can continue most of my normal life in Pattaya city.

outbreaks in Pattaya have been mostly in the general population with most of it reported to be from Central Shopping and I would assume spread from there - there were reports of outbreaks in open markets and Ice making business etc but very little in the way of migrants, also testing is limited so the extent of the spread IMO is unknown so it would be safe to assume it is everywhere so you need to take that onboard and judge for yourself how you deal with it 

 

also worth mentioning that the Mayor of pattaya is determined to open Pattaya in sept so telling the truth although would be very much in the interests of the public but it doesn't fit their agenda

4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I doubt that those Pfizer doses will find their way into the arms of farang. Frontline workers, yes. VIP “traveling overseas”, yes. At the same time they will say that 150k doses will be held back for farang, whilst also giving older farang sino /AZ combo. Suddenly, no elderly farang need Pfizer because they are vaccinated already. Happy days, 150k Pfizer is available for VIP Thai’s.

 

they will bend over backwards to show that those doses aren’t needed by common or garden farang.

 

pure speculation.

10:05 Several groups of medics gather in front of the US embassy in Bangkok to submit a petition demanding that the US government ensure transparency in the distribution of the US-donated Pfizer vaccine in Thailand.

https://twitter.com/ThaiPBSWorld/status/1419861611569836039

 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Two girls told by mother to go to orphanage as they watch her die of COVID at home

Two girls, aged 7 and 9, who later tested positive for COVID-19, were rescued from their home in Samut Prakan’s Bang Phli district yesterday (Monday), after watching their mother die of COVID-19, amid a continual surge in infections and deaths in Thailand which has seen more deaths on the streets and at home, as hospital resources are being stretched wafer thin.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-girls-told-by-mother-to-go-to-orphanage-as-they-watch-her-die-of-covid-at-home/

Thailand’s 3rd world face is showing. Covid has broken through the veneer of developing country status. A very sorry state of affairs.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

10:05 Several groups of medics gather in front of the US embassy in Bangkok to submit a petition demanding that the US government ensure transparency in the distribution of the US-donated Pfizer vaccine in Thailand.

https://twitter.com/ThaiPBSWorld/status/1419861611569836039

 

It will take that and more.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

As matter of interest. Which vaccine have you received and how many shots thus far.

 

 

That didn't work ???? I never leave home without a N95 8210 respirator mask and hand sanitizer, even to just receive a package at the gate. I never go out except for buying food. I don't accept visitors. This will go on until I get vaccinated. I'm in Udon now so it'll probably take several months but what can I do. I am old and oldfashioned. It's the right thing to do 

 

9 minutes ago, smedly said:

outbreaks in Pattaya have been mostly in the general population with most of it reported to be from Central Shopping and I would assume spread from there - there were reports of outbreaks in open markets and Ice making business etc but very little in the way of migrants, also testing is limited so the extent of the spread IMO is unknown so it would be safe to assume it is everywhere so you need to take that onboard and judge for yourself how you deal with it 

 

also worth mentioning that the Mayor of pattaya is determined to open Pattaya in sept so telling the truth although would be very much in the interests of the public but it doesn't fit their agenda

Thats why I worry about Phuket, the main clusters seem to have been from Central and markets, thats why they've  closed them but its already too late now as its in the community and with little measures in place it could well follow Pattaya soon despite its higher vaccine rate. Another 2 covid deaths over the last couple of days.

The authorities should allow single employee shops to open, pending RT-PCR tests of the employees.

 

Let one customer in to a hair salon if the stylist has a negative test.

 

or a massage shop with one employee.

 

53 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-covid-19-vaccination-shortage-astrazeneca-sinovac-15268932

 

""I think that’s the question a lot of people are asking, not to mention one very big problem right now, which is a total lack of transparency and honesty," she added, referring to how there have been differing accounts between AstraZeneca's vaccine delivery commitment to Thailand and what the government had told the people."

 

I was watching one of the EN language Thai  news broadcasts last night, and was well reminded of what happens when the government either operates or heavily influences a lot of the media outlets.

 

--The announcer was going on about how many AZ doses had been delivered and talked about how IF things went well, AZ Thailand should be able to deliver 5 million or so doses per month for Thailand.  Hey that's great!  Except, absolutely no mention of the fact that the government had long promised and planned for the local venture to produce 10 million doses a month for Thailand's use.

 

--Same story with news about the medicine favipiravir. Plenty of stocks of this "essential" medicine were being delivered to hospitals around the country to help treat COVID patients. Hey that's great!  Except, absolutely no mention that there's little credible scientific proof favi does much for treating COVID cases, and no mention that it isn't even approved for use in most first-world countries.

 

It's really a great advantage when the powers that be can control the messaging that occurs to the country.

 

 

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

It's really a great advantage when the powers that be can control the messaging that occurs to the country.

Thats what happens when people are in powerful positions that are well beyond their capabilities and also the main reason they get themselves there has nothing to do with running the country - public interest is not the primary agenda 

National Vaccination Rollout:

DAY 42: 74,834 <— Sunday

DAY 43: 248,648

DAY 44: 257,876

DAY 45: 279,576

DAY 46: 304,243

DAY 47: 352,879

DAY 48: 128,026 <— Saturday

DAY 49: 90,934 <— Sunday

DAY 49: 138,892 <— public holiday

TOTAL: 11,999,149 doses

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1419869273548226560

 

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

DAY 49: 138,892 <— public holiday

 

Needless to say, the virus doesn't take holidays....