1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said:

just tell us what is happening from nov 1st  , NO ASQ for fully vaccinated or not?

It will probably be officially announced on 31 October or 1 November.

On 10/2/2021 at 12:12 AM, Carrbhoy said:

You are correct - it is 3 districts being suggested for the scope of the Chiang Mai ' blue zone' one of them being the district which covers the Old City, I just didn't know the name of it.

So are you saying that one of the three districts is 'Muang Chiang Mai', which includes but is bigger than the old city?

6 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

So what happens in November?

It gets daylight for a while then it gets dark ????

6 hours ago, Puccini said:

It will probably be officially announced on 31 October or 1 November.

And hopefully will mean:

 

- No quarantine (in Bkk) for all foreigners arriving with full vaccination (2 shots) from countries which are ranked as low risk and must be gap of 2 weeks and no adverse reaction between date of receiving final jab and date of departure for Thailand,

- And foreigner must pass quick response Covid 19 test on arrival in Thailand,

- Can travel immediately from arrival point (Bkk and some other points) to their final domestic destination,

- No automatic quarantine or isolation at final destination point, but must pass quick response Covid 19 test on arrival at final destination.

 

If the plan is to operate SHA+ hotels in Bangkok and Pattaya on November 1, they will have to set the SHA+ system up in the next 10 days  or so, to have customers on November 1.

 

Edit: yes, I am aware that the chances of the government actually doing this on a timely basis are very low.

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

they will have to set the SHA+ system up in the next 10 days  or so, to have customers on November 1.

They already have SHA certified hotels e.g.

 

so now, the hotels that paid for whatever it took to be certified ASq SH or whatever will now be raising holy heck for having spent money but now people can go stay elsewhere?

Good luck getting the correct paperwork from those hotels by November 1.

Just talked to a friend from the US who wants to return for a visit to Thailand. She has been trying for the past few days to book flights and jump through the hoops to get here for her scheduled vacation in November.  However the frustration of not knowing about the quarantine issues and such, as she will be heading to BKK and Ayutthaya, being cemented in place is very vexing and she decided to just head to Spain instead. 

17 hours ago, scorecard said:

So are you saying that one of the three districts is 'Muang Chiang Mai', which includes but is bigger than the old city?

Yes, that is what I read.

 

10 hours ago, Salerno said:

They already have SHA certified hotels e.g.

An the "plus" bit is related to %age of vaccinated staff so if that's in hand there is minimal work required to go from SHA to SHA+.

JFI..The UK’s travel red list is to be shrunk significantly to as few as Nine Countries within days, according to reports...This Thursday..7th oct.. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/travel-covid-red-list-b1931308.html

1 minute ago, treetops said:

An the "plus" bit is related to %age of vaccinated staff so if that's in hand there is minimal work required to go from SHA to SHA+.

On the SHA website there's already 298 SHA+ in Chonburi but strangely none listed in Bangkok.

 

https://www.thailandsha.com/shalists/index?page=2&type=2-Hotel, accommodation and Homestay&province=20-Chon Buri

14 minutes ago, Salerno said:

On the SHA website there's already 298 SHA+ in Chonburi but strangely none listed in Bangkok.

 

https://www.thailandsha.com/shalists/index?page=2&type=2-Hotel, accommodation and Homestay&province=20-Chon Buri

where are the booking details , ? can we book 7 days SHA and then free to move outside the area?

13 minutes ago, Salerno said:

On the SHA website there's already 298 SHA+ in Chonburi but strangely none listed in Bangkok.

 

https://www.thailandsha.com/shalists/index?page=2&type=2-Hotel, accommodation and Homestay&province=20-Chon Buri

You would almost think they were preparing for sandbox entries next month, which according to some is pie in the sky.

Just now, treetops said:

You would almost think they were preparing for sandbox entries next month, which according to some is pie in the sky.

so you think it will all end? Or maybe they know something we dont know?

3 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

so you think it will all end? Or maybe they know something we dont know?

I think they read or hear the news the same as all of us, and through experience know what to believe and what is hot air.  The reduction in quarantine has happened and the elimination will happen.

 

Will it be 1st November?  At the moment it's a firm yes, but who knows what will happen in the next 4 weeks?

10 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

where are the booking details , ? can we book 7 days SHA and then free to move outside the area?

Too soon to tell yet; if things go well in October (deaths keep dropping and cases however they count them) IMO there's a good chance they'll give it a shot in November; how long it will last who knows (look at what happened in April-May).

3 minutes ago, treetops said:

I think they read or hear the news the same as all of us, and through experience know what to believe and what is hot air.  The reduction in quarantine has happened and the elimination will happen.

 

Will it be 1st November?  At the moment it's a firm yes, but who knows what will happen in the next 4 weeks?

yes its a decison some of us want to take. Wait until that announcement or  go back in October. Iam a long standing resident with a Retirement visa . Just want to know now 

13 minutes ago, treetops said:

You would almost think they were preparing for sandbox entries next month, which according to some is pie in the sky.

Think Chonburi jumped on the upgrade to SHA+ as they where pushing to be a "sandbox" from October, so makes sense they're further prepared than Bangkok I guess.

5 minutes ago, Salerno said:

Think Chonburi jumped on the upgrade to SHA+ as they where pushing to be a "sandbox" from October, so makes sense they're further prepared than Bangkok I guess.

how to book SHA pattaya.? Theres no link to book 7 days . and is it collection from airport?

25 minutes ago, treetops said:

You would almost think they were preparing for sandbox entries next month, which according to some is pie in the sky.

The plan is to have a Sandbox in Pattaya.  The question is the timely implementation. 

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The plan is to have a Sandbox in Pattaya.  The question is the timely implementation. 

And 9 other regions.

 

It's never 100% until people are actually in their hotels, but intentions are clear.

4 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

how to book SHA pattaya.? Theres no link to book 7 days . and is it collection from airport?

As I mentioned, too early to tell. On past performance we're unlikely to know if Phase 2 of the plan (opening further "sandbox" type areas) is going ahead from November until around 27 Octoberish. Until then I doubt you'll be able to book it officially.

 

What little they have released is so vague e.g. how are they going to get people to all the proposed locations?:

Bangkok, Krabi (both Province), Phang Nga (whole province), Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin, Nong Kae), Phetchaburi (Cha-am municipality), Chonburi (Pattaya, Bang Lamung, Na Jomtien, Bang Saray), Ranong (Koh Phayam), Chiang Mai (Mueang District, Mae Rim, Mae Taeng, Doi Tao), Loei (Chiang Khan) and Buriram. (Mueang District).

 

ALSQ in Pattaya has pickup from BKK so I don't think that will be an issue for you, but they;ve got a lot of specifics to iron out yet.

19 hours ago, Puccini said:

It will probably be officially announced on 31 October or 1 November.

Uh-huh.

Of course it will be, surely. 

????

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just talked to a friend from the US who wants to return for a visit to Thailand. She has been trying for the past few days to book flights and jump through the hoops to get here for her scheduled vacation in November.  However the frustration of not knowing about the quarantine issues and such, as she will be heading to BKK and Ayutthaya, being cemented in place is very vexing and she decided to just head to Spain instead. 

If you believe what the Thai government says about quarantines, timelines, and promises might I re-affirm my assertion that you have been dropped on your head several times too many as an infant?  

 

I agree, there are plenty of better places to go - for probably the same amount of money too!  The prices for quarantine hotels, overpriced this, overpriced that, certain insurance from a  certain country, etc etc etc adds up.  

 

No, I wouldn't travel to Thailand right now.  No way.  

15 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just talked to a friend from the US who wants to return for a visit to Thailand. She has been trying for the past few days to book flights and jump through the hoops to get here for her scheduled vacation in November.  However the frustration of not knowing about the quarantine issues and such, as she will be heading to BKK and Ayutthaya, being cemented in place is very vexing and she decided to just head to Spain instead. 

The CoE process is not difficult.

3 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

The CoE process is not difficult.

No, but the possibility of testing positive and incarcerated in a hospital for 2 weeks might be a tad inconvenient.

Plus the possibility of your insurer not paying up for you being asymptomatic.

76 provinces with 76 different decision makers opening or closing at a whim doesn't inspire confidence.

Just like Koh Tao did.

 

4 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

The CoE process is not difficult.

Did I say it was, nope.

12 hours ago, treetops said:

And 9 other regions.

 

It's never 100% until people are actually in their hotels, but intentions are clear.

Seems to me that there's a fairly solid future intent to waive all quarantine (for fully vaccinated travelers) at 1 November.

 

But also seems to me there's also a current strategy to not release this information until say 3rd week of October.

 

Why? Because they fear early release of this policy will automatically push many would be arrivals to wait and enter after 1 Nov.

 

Therefore killing some potential arrivals from entering during first 2 or 3 week of October, therefore they won't be spending money on ASQ hotels then own choice hotels after 7 days quarantine, own choice F and B, shopping during that first 2 or 3 weeks of October. 

 

All being bad news in terms of opportunity for more businesses to open up/get revenues. 

 

We wait and see.