Anutin: There's no going back now - "Vax passport" needed not Thailand Pass to enter country

[Tony M]

19 hours ago, Tony M said:

So, Immigration will have to check insurance certifiactes when passengers arrive ? Shouldn't be hard to produce those on your PC at home.  Or will they expect the airlines to check insurance when passengers board the aircraft overseas?

Well, that kind of answers the questions I asked. https://thepattayanews.com/2022/04/27/thailands-civil-aviation-authority-issues-latest-measures-for-air-travel-effective-may-1st/  :

Passengers must provide proof of vaccination or RT-PCR test results and Covid-19 health insurance when registering in the ‘Thailand Pass’ system before traveling. Once the documents have been verified, the passenger will receive a QR Code to present to the airline. If there is no QR Code, the airline may refuse to have passengers on board.

 

Airlines must verify that passengers have QR Codes from the ‘Thailand Pass’ system before accepting them onto the aircraft. If a passenger is found to have arrived in Thailand without a QR Code, the airline will be responsible for sending the passenger back to the country of origin.

 

I do note that they still say that insurance cover is needed throughout the stay, and they don't say what exactly constitutes "fully vaccinated".

[NRGF]

19 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

A lot of anti-vaxxers will ignore these facts and shout tyranny though. 

A lot of anti-vaxxers won't be going to Thailand. 

[dinsdale]

Here's a scenario. A person has had 2 jabs and has recently had covid. "Sorry you no come Thailand". Morons. This person will have higher immunity (from serious illness) than a person who has had 3 jabs.

[PETERTHEEATER]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

and we need to get the message out to everyone".

 

Sod the message I will take the massage......????

[Old Croc]

11 hours ago, thairookie said:

In the future, Mr Anutin will no longer be the Health Minister.

Right, but if you haven't worked out he's aiming for the top job you're not really following the clues.

 

[BangkokReady]

3 hours ago, Brigante7 said:

Correct, which is why the "vaccinated" seem to suffer worse when they catch it.

I think the opposite is true.

[dinsdale]

9 hours ago, asiacurious said:

We should care.  At least I know I do.  And you're right - both can catch and spread.  Thing is, the vaccinated person who catches it (whether or not they have symptoms) will have a lot LESS of the virus in their bodies (and therefore will spread a lot less) than someone who is unvaccinated.

 

https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/vaccinated-workers-shed-less-covid-virus

 

Note that things changed a bit with the Delta variant, which isn't a surprise because the vaccines all had lower efficacy, though that was likely due to a mix of changes in the variant and passage of time from when the original vaccinations were administered.

 

Yawn.  I'm boring myself.  All of this is old news.

 

In a perfect world, everyone in the world gets vaccinated.  That's really the way to slow down and eventually stop new mutations/variants from evolving and spreading. 

Best way is if everyone catches it. We are now talking ominron which is a whole different ball game to delta.

[Stubby]

21 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Probably more like "Fully vaccinated with the last jab being within X months".  That seems more practical.

You're probably right, BR. The old jabs are waning fast, hence the need for boosters. And there's talk of omicron-specific vaccines in the pipeline. Indeed, the vaccine makers have been working on this since last year. The reason is that the orignal+booster jabs are not working as well as against omicron as the experts had hoped. If they were, big pharma would not need to invest time and money into shots tailored for protection against omicron and its subvariants. So yes, it seems that authorities won't care about earlier jabs; it's the last, most relevant vaccine that'll get you in.

[NoshowJones]

22 hours ago, ESLTeacher1989 said:

I really don't want to get a booster, especially after all the data coming out on Myocarditis ..................Omnicorn is so mild anyway compared to other variants, why are the Thai Authorities are so worried?

I think they are more worried about their income stream going down, and then of course there will be the protesters.

[NoshowJones]

21 hours ago, whereyougo said:

Listen to all the Karen's ????

What are you all going to whine about when it's all scrapped? 

 

When?? You mean if?? It is never going to be all scrapped while the greedy soldiers are in charge. All they are interested in is keeping their pockets filled.

[NoshowJones]

20 hours ago, Brigante7 said:

Bye bye Thailand, I hope your tourist industry goes tits-up.

 

 

 

Brigante7.

I don't. Don't be so selfish. There are many Thai people who depend on the tourist industry for their livelihoods.

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

We change a few things to attrac tourists and we implement other things so they stay away or are getting more difficulties to enter...and later they will introduce the 300 entrance fee and than they are wondering why the tourists avoid Thailand..My advice is if they don't know how to handle the situation,  hire some experts from western countries to set up the tourism industry again

Yes, people with good intelligence and a decent education, not like a bunch of soldiers from a Military academy.

[Heng]

4 hours ago, rabang said:

Is the pass still needed for something?

Not sure.  Only been here for a few days as a tourist.   The EU Covid pass still exists, so IF you needed it, then for Danes it wouldn't be valid if as little as 5 months have passed since your 2nd dose (and assuming no booster shot).   For most European countries, the norm seems to be 9 months.   In cases where one would need a valid EU Covid pass to travel to another country (say in Asia or Africa), it could be an issue. 

[NoshowJones]

18 hours ago, freedomnow said:

The idiot circus continues...Act 555.

Forward all the clowns and midgets from The Banana Republic of Thailands only circus.

[PremiumLane]

22 hours ago, islandor said:

You can bet on it, and they will be correct in doing so imo. Seems to be way too many sheep on this platform. Todays "facts" may well be tomorrows nightmare.  

I find the biggest sheep are those that get their 'facts' from FB posts, well known lunatics who want to sell their own products and YouTube videos, imo ???? 

[NoshowJones]

17 hours ago, relax33 said:

No more COVID-19 tests for fully vaccinated travellers entering Malaysia, masks optional outdoors from May 1 - CNA (channelnewsasia.com)

Singapore dropped the need for covid tests n insurance for fully vaxxed visitors from April 1 .
Now Malaysia had follow suit by doing the same on May 1 ..
Both countries do not require doc submissions like the Thai Pass for entry ..
The beauty of competition means Thailand will be forced follow suit soon or risk being left behind ...

Being left behind won't bother the soldiers one little bit, but if their income stream goes down it  will be a very different story.

[Burma Bill]

"no going back now" (quote)

 

28/04/2022. For reference should you decide to fly on a visa run to Phnom Penh:-

 

The Ministry of Tourism yesterday dropped the requirement for face masks at tourist facilities but urged people to keep them on at crowded and closed space. (wearing of face masks no longer mandatory in Cambodia)

 

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501065101/wear-face-mask-in-closed-space-says-tourism-ministry/

[whereyougo]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

When?? You mean if?? It is never going to be all scrapped while the greedy soldiers are in charge. All they are interested in is keeping their pockets filled.

A lot of chatter on FB indicating its imminent. Time will tell but they keep peeling back the layers and only one left 

[VBF]

18 hours ago, jossthaifarang said:

Riddle me this. I have had 2 shots vaccine and then 18 days later I got covid. Having had covid the real thing, surly the booster should no longer be required. The real virus versus a modified version should be better right? Serious question, all opinions are welcome. 

I would suggest, that when you got Covid, it was less serious than if you had not been vaccinated. Of course, you'll never know but the whole point of vaccines is not that they always prevent you from catching the disease, but if you do catch it, the symptoms are usually less serious.

[sambum]

On 4/27/2022 at 12:52 PM, StayinThailand2much said:

Damn. Have to put my Thailand trip on the back-burner till authorities can figure it out...

I can hear the strains of???? "And so say all of us" ???? in the distance!????

[ivor bigun]

 The main problem at the moment is flights ,my family are coming over in June,their flight with Emirates has been cancelled ,this is the second time ,trying to get a flight at the moment is a problem ,airlines are cancelling left right and center

[Blumpie]

Anti vaccine people will always complain.  The key is to simply not care - why would anyone truly care if they like it or hate it?  It's the way that it is and that's that.  There aren't any countries on earth that don't require vaccines.  

Fini.

[charmonman]

12 hours ago, Brigante7 said:

Correct, which is why the "vaccinated" seem to suffer worse when they catch it.

 

 

 

Brigante7.

Where is your evidence for this statement? I am double vaccinated with a booster, caught covid-19 and had mild to no symptoms. Girlfriend also caught it, same vaccination history. A few days with moderate symptoms. At least in our case, we did not "suffer worse" when we caught it. Anecdotal yes, but most of the reporting I have seen on this is that the majority of hospitalizations from this thing are there unvaccinated which directly contradicts your statement.

 

Please provide some sort of reference for this statement, or did you just make it up?

 

[anchadian]

CCSA will not scrap the #ThailandPass scheme, as has been widely anticipated, but will shorten the registration process for overseas tourists applying to enter #Thailand as the one-night quarantine scheme for the fully vaccinated is to come to an end. https://thaip.bs/VaRSbcn

 

 

 

 

[thaipadawan]

1. There is no internationally recognized vaccine system in place but there are various system in place.

 

2. Why continue with the insurance requirement? I thought the plan was to gouge foreigners 300 baht per arrival so we can pay for the attractions that we’d like to visit AND for medical coverage. So why charge us twice for medical?

 

Oh that’s right. TiT.

[Captain Monday]

6 minutes ago, thaipadawan said:

1. There is no internationally recognized vaccine system in place but there are various system in place.

 

2. Why continue with the insurance requirement? I thought the plan was to gouge foreigners 300 baht per arrival so we can pay for the attractions that we’d like to visit AND for medical coverage. So why charge us twice for medical?

 

Oh that’s right. TiT.

Because 1.), Thailand Pass or some form of  is permanent to validate vaccination and insurance prior to travel because 2.) mandatory travel is insurance is not going away

 

They have been talking abut it for years.  covid-19, the gift that will keep on giving. 

Welcome to The New Normal.

[Lingba]

more blabbering confusion

[Senior Player]

Scrapping the Thailand Pass is a step in the right direction. However, transferring it to the TM6 immigration form is still not the answer if you want to boost tourism. Travelling to the UK you do not need to complete a UK passenger locator form before you travel, take any COVID-19 tests or quarantine when you arrive in England. This applies whether you're vaccinated or not, which is just as it should be. When Thailand scraps all its bureaucratic COVID-19 rules, I'll consider booking a flight.

[Bangkocker]

21 hours ago, NRGF said:

A lot of anti-vaxxers won't be going to Thailand. 

 

4 hours ago, Senior Player said:

Scrapping the Thailand Pass is a step in the right direction. However, transferring it to the TM6 immigration form is still not the answer if you want to boost tourism. Travelling to the UK you do not need to complete a UK passenger locator form before you travel, take any COVID-19 tests or quarantine when you arrive in England. This applies whether you're vaccinated or not, which is just as it should be. When Thailand scraps all its bureaucratic COVID-19 rules, I'll consider booking a flight.

Why bother with Thailand and the dim wits that run the place. All these regulations and they are starting to seem a replica of China. Effin' fingerprinting, regulations and still they don't want westerners. Well they can take a hike as far as I'm concerned. Let the Chinese run the joint.

 

[Senior Player]

On 4/27/2022 at 5:48 AM, PremiumLane said:

A lot of anti-vaxxers will ignore these facts and shout tyranny though. 

What is an anti-vaxxer? Every time I have travelled to Thailand I've ensured that I had my typhoid, tetanus, diphtheria, polio, hepatitis B and even rabies shots—all at my own discretion. These were all medically approved vaccinations and not issued under some medical emergency use. In other words, they've all passed years of rigorous testing to meet the necessary guidelines that we fully expect and therefore understand what their side-effects are. Not so with these latest wonder drugs. Some people are even completely unaware of their efficacy (how long they actually work for) and if they even work at all against certain strains. This, of course, makes informed consent near to impossible. Add to this the snobbery of which pharmaceutical brand works better than another, and we've reached an impasse.

 

Then there's those that have every shot, including their boosters, who still fret that they'll catch it from someone who doesn't have this magical protection, despite their own insistence that it offers every medical benefit. The mental gymnastics they'll go through to illustrate that their vax is "null and void" if they should come into contact with an actual carrier is quite lamentable. So who is the real anti-vaxxer? Perhaps its someone who takes it but doesn't believe in its effectiveness or overall protection?